I love America!

[DogOnPorch]

And see this kind of attitude I think...

I think if you born after 1965 (or so), you'd have little memory of what Canada was before Trudeau and the rise of multiculturalism. I'm not saying Canada was perfect then nor even better. But, today, it is a much different place with both benefits and problems that were blindly imported w/o any thought given to how it would affect the current population.

[Guest American Woman]

Most of us do, but, it's expressed differently, because as similar as America and Canada are, there is a different character, and spirit to this county.

Except that doesn't address what I was actually saying, does it? I didn't say what you are responding to; cutting off my comment made it into something entirely different from what I actually said.

And I think, the above, generally, is a result of Americans and America's strongest defenders reading far too much into the 'criticism'. America is a big, powerful country that is rather similar to us. There are inevitably going to be many comparisons, critiques, and comments, negative and positive. It's not really something to focus on, and most of us focus on it far less than many of you realize.

And many focus on it much more than you realize.

Edited November 8, 2012 by American Woman

[Black Dog]

Americans don't define themselves as not Canadian. They don't have/need to.

The fact that you pretend not to understand why we might define ourselves in part by not being American indicates you are either a committed troll or really, really dumb.

[Smallc]

I think if you born after 1965 (or so), you'd have little memory of what Canada was before Trudeau and the rise of multiculturalism. I'm not saying Canada was perfect then nor even better. But, today, it is a much different place with both benefits and problems that were blindly imported w/o any thought given to how it would affect the current population.

Of course it's a different place. Canada has always been a different place. That's the point. It hasn't seemed to harm us.

Except that doesn't address what I was actually saying, does it? I didn't say what you are responding to; cutting off my comment made it into something entirely different from what I actually said.

Yes, it does actually, and no, it didn't change the context....

And many focus on it much more than you realize.

....you just failed to understand. Intentionally or not, I can't be sure.

[bush_cheney2004]

I think if you born after 1965 (or so), you'd have little memory of what Canada was before Trudeau and the rise of multiculturalism.

Agreed, and having been born in the 1950's, Canada had a much more distinct identity and sense of nationalism before PET as rendered in US media. It's as if the very notion of "nationalism" became verbotten.

[DogOnPorch]

Ask an Irishman or a Scot what part of England they are from. When you finally regain consciousness maybe you'll understand.

I think you mean to say the UK as England is a distinct region like Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Of course, no true Scotsman (etc) would want to be part of the UK.

[Smallc]

Agreed, and having been born in the 1950's, Canada had a much more distinct identity and sense of nationalism before PET as rendered in US media.

And again, many of us would disagree. You define identity far too narrowly, in a very American perspective.

[GostHacked]

President Obama is not a "black president"....he is far more than that, transcending such old notions. Maybe your Dad was mistaken?

He is an African-American (maybe) ... but born in Hawaii (unless it is true he was born in Kenya) otherwise if you are black and born in America, then you are .. a black American ......

[bush_cheney2004]

And again, many of us would disagree. You define identity far too narrowly, in a very American perspective.

OK, but changing the national colors/flag, renaming the armed forces, erecting CanCon barriers, fighting over bilingualism, and getting rid of "Dominion Day" might just hint at a bit of an identity crisis. Just sayin'.....

[DogOnPorch]

Agreed, and having been born in the 1950's, Canada had a much more distinct identity and sense of nationalism before PET as rendered in US media. It's as if the very notion of "nationalism" became verbotten.

Indeed. Nationalism is still frowned upon in Canada even though the Harper crew is/are making some efforts here and there at pride. RCAF sounds better anyways. Whenever I heard/read CAF I always thought about these guys...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commemorative_Air_Force

Note: "Commemorative" is the new PC name.

[Guest American Woman]

Yes, it does actually, and no, it didn't change the context...

It changed the context entirely. .

[DogOnPorch]

OK, but changing the national colors/flag, renaming the armed forces, erecting CanCon barriers, fighting over bilingualism, and getting rid of "Dominion Day" might just hint at a bit of an identity crisis. Just sayin'.....

Also...interesting that some CAN time travel. I want to learn how.

[Smallc]

OK, but changing the national colors/flag, renaming the armed forces, erecting CanCon barriers, fighting over bilingualism, and getting rid of "Dominion Day" might just hint at a bit of an identity crisis. Just sayin'.....

No, that's a result of evolving over time from a British colony to a country in our own right.

[DogOnPorch]

No, that's a result of evolving over time from a British colony to a country in our own right.

Which was the Trudeau experience right there. Many were perfectly happy with the BNA act.

[Smallc]

Which was the Trudeau experience right there. Many were perfectly happy with the BNA act.

And obviously, many were not. Canada was not entirely separate from the United Kingdom. Now we are.

[GostHacked]

OK, but changing the national colors/flag, renaming the armed forces, erecting CanCon barriers, fighting over bilingualism, and getting rid of "Dominion Day" might just hint at a bit of an identity crisis. Just sayin'.....

Aside from the CanCon bit, I think that has more to do with being part of the Monarchy and not because of the need to define Canada as 'not the USA'.

[GostHacked]

And obviously, many were not. Canada was not entirely separate from the United Kingdom. Now we are.

We are still not entirely separate. To do that, we need to ditch the Monarch altogether, not just half assed the way it currently is.

[Smallc]

We are still not entirely separate. To do that, we need to ditch the Monarch altogether, not just half assed the way it currently is.

We're in personal union with the UK. They have no influence, power, or control over us, post Constitution Act, 1982.

[Guest American Woman]

We are still not entirely separate. To do that, we need to ditch the Monarch altogether, not just half assed the way it currently is.

I agree. Your head of state is determined by the British monarchy, not independently, and they will be first and foremost British.

Edited November 8, 2012 by American Woman

[DogOnPorch]

And obviously, many were not. Canada was not entirely separate from the United Kingdom. Now we are.

Who is this again?

[Smallc]

The office of the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the office of the Queen of Canada are completely separate..they just happen to be occupied by the same person. That is by Canada's choice, and no one else's.

Edited November 8, 2012 by Smallc

[DogOnPorch]

And obviously, many were not.

Well...the Liberals and the French Canadians who didn't really see the down-side to multiculturalism. Wasn't going to affect them...lol.

[bush_cheney2004]

Great photo of Her Majesty. It's hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that Canada's head-of-state is predetermined by the historical mating habits of the European 1%.

[WWWTT]

No....Canada may be "safer"....but it is also a lot more boring.

Wow,go figure.

Who would have thought of bush_cheney2004 as an "exciting" person!?!

I guess your into "boring" since you like to debate with Canadians so much?

WWWTT

[DogOnPorch]

Perhaps you should do a little research.

No, my friend. I lived those times...and they were great times. Great times to be young and living in Canada. Tons of work...tons of play.