DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 The first thing they lose is their cool..... Yet we end up doing the 'Steve McQueen' on 'Devil's Island'. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Yet we end up doing the 'Steve McQueen' on 'Devil's Island'. 'Zactly ! I wonder why they get so upset ? I can feel the hate...... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Funny you should mention the NHL, then and now are most problematic for some in Canada. Then it was the loss of The Great One, and now it is the corruption of Canada's game by Bettman and those damn Americans. (Never mind that 4 of the Original Six teams were in U.S. cities.) Yes...lots of unhappy campers around these parts with little to do with no NHL on the tube. We have the WHL in this city, at least, for those who need their fix. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 'Zactly ! I wonder why they get so upset ? I can feel the hate...... No hockey? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 No hockey? Yep...same here...we have an empty arena and unhappy fans. No WHL close by, but we do have NCAA hockey. High school hockey is always popular as well (in Minnesota). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
carepov Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Anecdotally, it seems that the notion of a vacation away from Canada in winter is a very high priority for many Canadians. Well I suppose that you are correct, it comes down to preferences. You prefer excitement, nice weather, and more gun freedom, while I prefer safety, meritocracy, more liquor freedom and less obesity. All in all both Canada and the USA are great countries and from an outsider's perspective we are not that different. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Well I suppose that you are correct, it comes down to preferences. You prefer excitement, nice weather, and more gun freedom, while I prefer safety, meritocracy, more liquor freedom and less obesity. All in all both Canada and the USA are great countries and from an outsider's perspective we are not that different. Back in the 1980s, there were so many Canadian time-shares on Maui that the amount of Maple Leafs flapping in the breeze made one think the place was actually Canada's 11th province. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Black Dog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 'Zactly ! I wonder why they get so upset ? I can feel the hate...... No anger here, just curiosity about the deep emptiness in your life that would lead you to spending so much time telling strangers about their country's inferiority. Seems to be a full-time preoccupation with you (given your confession that you used to take your troll-show top the CBC forums). An American obsessed with telling Canadians about their obsession with the U.S. What was that guy here who only writes sentence fragments saying about irony again? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah...I'm guessing it's the no hockey. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Black Dog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah...I'm guessing it's the no hockey. What are you talking about? There's lots of hockey, not to mention the CFL playoffs. You mean no NHL. An easy mistake for someone slipping into their dotage. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Don't quit your day-job. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Well I suppose that you are correct, it comes down to preferences. You prefer excitement, nice weather, and more gun freedom, while I prefer safety, meritocracy, more liquor freedom and less obesity. All in all both Canada and the USA are great countries and from an outsider's perspective we are not that different. Fair enough, but my Canadian neighbour is plenty obese. I help her shovel snow when the going gets tough each winter. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Yeah...I'm guessing it's the no hockey. I have the 2010 Winter Olympics hockey final on DVD if that would help cheer them up. It's decent hockey and Canada beats the USA in overtime ! Or just go to YouTube....sorry....that's American too. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Don't quit your day-job. How dare you taint that great film. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 How dare you taint that great film. I'm listenin' to the F****** SONG!! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 (edited) Canada has its good points. Eye surgery for my wife would have cost upward of $30k in the USA. Here it was paid for by the Medical Service Plan...no waiting...no quack doctors...100% successful. Canada has it's excellent points. It's a great country. Too bad more Canadians don't realize that without the need to criticize the U.S. in order to feel that way about it. Edited November 8, 2012 by American Woman Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 I have the 2010 Winter Olympics hockey final on DVD if that would help cheer them up. It's decent hockey and Canada beats the USA in overtime ! Or just go to YouTube....sorry....that's American too. Ah...Canada. America Junior. The Great White North. Terrance & Phillip.* Celine Dion? She's from Quebec....lives in Vegas. * The Simpsons, SNL and South Park Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Smallc Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Canada has it's excellent points. It's a great country. Too bad more Canadians don't realize that Most of us do, but, it's expressed differently, because as similar as America and Canada are, there is a different character, and spirit to this county. without the need to criticize the U.S. in order to feel that way about it. And I think, the above, generally, is a result of Americans and America's strongest defenders reading far too much into the 'criticism'. America is a big, powerful country that is rather similar to us. There are inevitably going to be many comparisons, critiques, and comments, negative and positive. It's not really something to focus on, and most of us focus on it far less than many of you realize. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Canada has it's excellent points. It's a great country. Too bad more Canadians don't realize that without the need to criticize the U.S. in order to feel that way about it. Canada is fine for the most part. Though, often, I feel as if I have no national identity next to all the trappings of multiculturalism. Minority in my own country without the perks of being a minority, etc. I suppose I'm being punished for something...not quite sure what. Residential schools, perhaps. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Canada has it's excellent points. It's a great country. Too bad more Canadians don't realize that without the need to criticize the U.S. in order to feel that way about it. Agreed....this is the essence of the issue. Canada is not well defined by being !American. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Smallc Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Canada is fine for the most part. Though, often, I feel as if I have no national identity next to all the trappings of multiculturalism. And see this kind of attitude I think, comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of what Canada is, and where it came from. Multiculturalism, and all the 'trappings' are and have been a part of the Canadian identity since before Confederation. We simply decided to officially recognize that. Canada, like America and so many other former British colonies, is a country of immigrants. The Canadian immigrant experience though, is and has been very different than places like the United States or Australia. Integration was never really the primary driving factor. In Canada, you are of here, and also of where you came from. Some of you see this as a negative, but, many of us don't, and we see it as adding to the fabric of this place. Canada has a very strong identity, and one doesn't have to look very far to find it. It is in fact all around us, in our cities and towns, and in our largest urban centres, from the intricate cladding on so many buildings in Vieux Quebec, to totem polls on the west coast, to the vast open expanses of the arctic tundra. It is not these things that make up Canada, but rather the people that live in these places, that built these places, and that continue to build them today. Different countries have different types of identities, and the identity of this place is very unique. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Canada is fine for the most part. Though, often, I feel as if I have no national identity next to all the trappings of multiculturalism. Minority in my own country without the perks of being a minority, etc. I suppose I'm being punished for something...not quite sure what. Residential schools, perhaps. Yes it's a hard place for your historically disadvantaged group: old white men. Perhaps you should join bc_2004 down in the States where they cling hard to their national mythos (like b_c's howler about "collectivism" being anathema to the American character ). Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 .... Canada has a very strong identity, and one doesn't have to look very far to find it. Then why is this identity so often expressed in terms of American attributes, often in a derisive way? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Black Dog Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Then why is this identity so often expressed in terms of American attributes, often in a derisive way? Ask an Irishman or a Scot what part of England they are from. When you finally regain consciousness maybe you'll understand. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 8, 2012 Report Posted November 8, 2012 Americans don't define themselves as not Canadian. They don't have/need to. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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