cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) You guys may want to tune in to Power & Politics right now. Apparently, Chretien says the LPC and NDP need to merge. He's also going to talk about the "night of the long knives." Oops. Wrong forum. Edited April 16, 2012 by cybercoma Quote
Boges Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 You guys may want to tune in to Power & Politics right now. Apparently, Chretien says the LPC and NDP need to merge. He's also going to talk about the "night of the long knives." Watching the CBC. Isn't the "Night of the Long Knives" when Hitler had his The Gay leader of the SA killed? Quote
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Posted April 16, 2012 It was, which is why it's so distasteful that Quebec adopted that phrase. Chretien is so sleazy though. I can't even stand watching him here. Jesus. He's perhaps the single most arrogant politician in Canadian history or at the very least second behind Trudeau. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Posted April 16, 2012 You guys may want to tune in to Power & Politics right now. Apparently, Chretien says the LPC and NDP need to merge. He's also going to talk about the "night of the long knives." Quote
WWWTT Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Funny how that it is only in most cases the liberals that want merger. WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
TheNewTeddy Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Card carrying Liberal here. If the party dares to even take a merger seriously, I'll cut my card in half and send it back to the party. I am not a Socialist, I am not an NDPer. If the party wants to merge, merge with a party that has similar ideas like the Greens. If the Liberals decide to join the NDP, I will be joining the Conservatives. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
TheNewTeddy Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Oops. Wrong forum. This would work in some provinces. Alberta, in particular. Could work in Manitoba, and Saskatchewan if the NDP is willing. Would never work in BC. Quote Feel free to contact me outside the forums. Add "TheNewTeddy" to Twitter, Facebook, or Hotmail to reach me!
madmax Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Card carrying Liberal here. If the Liberals decide to join the NDP, I will be joining the Conservatives. Take Bob Rae with you... Quote
punked Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 You guys may want to tune in to Power & Politics right now. Apparently, Chretien says the LPC and NDP need to merge. He's also going to talk about the "night of the long knives." Oops. Wrong forum. I welcome this, the easiest and most democratic way if for all Liberals to give up their memberships and take memberships out in the one member one vote NDP. Quote
punked Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 I welcome this. The easiest way to do this is for all Liberals to give up their Liberal memberships and take out memberships in the one member one vote NDP where policy is determined at the grassroot level and the leader beholden to what the membership decides by majority votes. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Posted April 16, 2012 I welcome this. The easiest way to do this is for all Liberals to give up their Liberal memberships and take out memberships in the one member one vote NDP where policy is determined at the grassroot level and the leader beholden to what the membership decides by majority votes. I see what you did there. Quote
Topaz Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Do any of you really want ONLY two party choice?? Just look at the USA, it goes back and forth and its not good for the people.. we lose. Quote
cybercoma Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Posted April 16, 2012 Hell no. The last thing I want is a bipartisan system. We need more parties. Not less imo. Quote
madmax Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Do any of you really want ONLY two party choice?? Just look at the USA, it goes back and forth and its not good for the people.. we lose. Very often the Rightwing parties merge to take on the NDP and Previously CCF... Once this occurs you get a two party system and a 3rd option is desired.. such as in BC the growth of the Green Party..as the 3rd option... It is a matter of time before a 3rd or 4th or 5th party is created as people will always want and demand choice. It is possible in the Canadian System for even small parties to compete as well as populist grassroots party. I believe the same could occur in the US with other parties but the barriers required for success are to large of hurdles... so unless you are Ross Perot and can fund your own Campaign and create a political party around your income... its rare for any upstart party to participate in the modern era. I believe the last time the US had 3 parties prior to Perot was during the Teddy Roosevelt era but someone can correct me on that ... i am guesssing... Quote
madmax Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Hell no. The last thing I want is a bipartisan system. We need more parties. Not less imo. If I only had two choices I would puke first and then work on creating a 3rd and better option.. IF this merger happened...I might create the WB party... which is way superior to Wild Rose... Quote
punked Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Very often the Rightwing parties merge to take on the NDP and Previously CCF... Once this occurs you get a two party system and a 3rd option is desired.. such as in BC the growth of the Green Party..as the 3rd option... It is a matter of time before a 3rd or 4th or 5th party is created as people will always want and demand choice. It is possible in the Canadian System for even small parties to compete as well as populist grassroots party. I believe the same could occur in the US with other parties but the barriers required for success are to large of hurdles... so unless you are Ross Perot and can fund your own Campaign and create a political party around your income... its rare for any upstart party to participate in the modern era. I believe the last time the US had 3 parties prior to Perot was during the Teddy Roosevelt era but someone can correct me on that ... i am guesssing... Dixiecrat's in the 48? Quote
dre Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Hell no. The last thing I want is a bipartisan system. We need more parties. Not less imo. I agree but as long as people buy into the whole left/right dichotomy if one end of the political spectrum is consolidated the parties that make up the other end will be left out in the cold... Especially in a system where 40% of the vote can get you a majority government. I think this might be a forgone conclusion... Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
cybercoma Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 If I only had two choices I would puke first and then work on creating a 3rd and better option.. IF this merger happened...I might create the WB party... which is way superior to Wild Rose... WB?The Wild Bros Party? Quote
August1991 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 If the party dares to even take a merger seriously, I'll cut my card in half and send it back to the party. I am not a Socialist, I am not an NDPer.Welcome to politics, 21st century style.Politicians, ever competitive, will put you in a box and force you to choose. --- NewTeddy, between Mulcair and Harper, what do you choose? None of teh above? Quote
August1991 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Do any of you really want ONLY two party choice?? Just look at the USA, it goes back and forth and its not good for the people.. we lose.On the contrary.---- Here's another way to look at the question: imagine a summer beach, 600 metre long, between two rocky cliffs. If there were only two ice cream/soft drink sellers/kiosks, where would they place themselves? At the 200m and 400m marks? Or both at the 300m mark, in the middle of the beach between the cliffs? Now then, if there were three ice cream/pop sellers, where would they place themselves? Given that customers want the shortest walk to the closest ice cream seller, and the competitive sellers know this, it's not hard to imagine what will happen. Edited April 17, 2012 by August1991 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 The Liberals are out as the ruling gov or the official opposition (in a minority gov no less) for less than a year and now some of them want to merge already? Talk about impatient. They must be too used to positions of power. Be patient Liberals, sometimes you need to take some punches and take the time afterwards to lick your wounds instead of just throwing in the towel. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Idea: How about all parties merge into one, then disband it and have all the MP's retire. Maybe their replacements would be significantly better than the dopes we have now. Who am I kidding? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
cybercoma Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 If two parties are better than three, or four, or five parties, then certainly 1 party is better than two. You might be onto something MG. Quote
The_Squid Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 If Chretien suggested it, we should do the opposite. More parties = better for the country. Just look at how things can quickly change. The Conservatives were the PC's and Reform not so long ago. It can happen again. Quote
capricorn Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 If Chretien suggested it, we should do the opposite. Then we have Bob Rae saying no to a merger. The Liberals, one happy family in a big red empty tent. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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