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I never made one comment about this story, not one word, I quoted somebody else. HENCE MY USE OF QUOTES. Unfortunately I don't know the ID of the person I quoted, hence it wasn't included.

Your comments are classic nonsense. Carry on.

My comments were quite relevant to what was posted, thank you very much. YOU posted something WITH NO COMMENT, who was I supposed to direct my response to? :rolleyes:

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Oh man I was going to make a comment here but this stupid bot is starting to rune things.

Anyways its good that people are excersing their right to protest Cheney!He did things that people feel was wrong and it is their right to let him now that if he comes to Canada they will let him know that they feel he acted inapropriately!

Thats the way the wheels of democracy turns-Don't like it-then you are anti democratic!

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Accepting violent riotous behavior to absolutely intimidate and prevent a speaker as somehow the right of protest is like equating a cotton mouth to an earth worm.

Most know the difference between a peaceful demonstration and a threat to life and limb.

Selective rights are what the boorish leftist cretins call free speech.

If it's an Ann Coulter or 'Bibi' Benjamin Netanyahu, or a Bush or other with right wing tendencies, no way Jose` you are to be silenced in any manner possible including threats of violence.

If you're a left wing lecherous impeached liar (like perhaps a Bill Clinton, the same idiots fawn on the speaker and that is what some call free speech. It's free If I agree and to be silenced at all costs if I don't.

What's good is that opinions like yours are so disingenuous and contrary to the true meaning of free speech, that being, to allow all persons that hold differing or offensive opinions to be openly expressed without suppression, repression or fear.

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...I don't think Cheney should be allowed in Canada without authorities arresting him for war crimes, and hopefully be tried and rot in The Hague.

That's OK...the Americans don't care if Canadian war criminals like Chretien or Martin come and go, especially when they seek superior health care at the Mayo Clinic! ;)

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What's good is that opinions like yours are so disingenuous and contrary to the true meaning of free speech, that being, to allow all persons that hold differing or offensive opinions to be openly expressed without suppression, repression or fear.

What came first,the chicken or the egg?

So what came first when Cheney gets protested?Cheneys protestors or the actions commited by Cheney the protestors are protesting?

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My comments were quite relevant to what was posted, thank you very much. YOU posted something WITH NO COMMENT, who was I supposed to direct my response to? :rolleyes:

Well, on topic to your response then, what I took the comment I posted to mean is that if Canada is too dangerous a place for Cheney to come visit then virtually any country is unsafe for the man. Nobody is claiming Canada is without crime, but given Canada's low crime rate, where would it be safe for Cheney to speak then? Antarctica?

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Well, on topic to your response then, what I took the comment I posted to mean is that if Canada is too dangerous a place for Cheney to come visit then virtually any country is unsafe for the man.

Again. He didn't say it was dangerous; the person you were quoting did. He said he has security concerns, and as I pointed out previously, they are legitimate.

Nobody is claiming Canada is without crime, but given Canada's low crime rate, where would it be safe for Cheney to speak then? Antarctica?

It's not "Canada's crime rate" that has him concerned.

As I said previously, Canada isn't exactly presenting itself as an open minded, tolerant, 'let everyone have their say' sort of country; some people seem determined to shut down those they don't like/agree with.

I'm no fan of Cheney, but I'm no fan of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad either, yet I supported his right to speak at Columbia University. Everyone has different ideas of who they'd like to hear speak - for different reasons - and I don't support others' attempts to deny them the opportunity just because they aren't interested.

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....Everyone has different ideas of who they'd like to hear speak - for different reasons - and I don't support others' attempts to deny them the opportunity just because they aren't interested.

They sure were "interested" when Dick Cheney vocally supported tarsands oil development in Alberta ! ;)

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They sure were "interested" when Dick Cheney vocally supported tarsands oil development in Alberta ! ;)

Then maybe Cheney should try keeping his public appearences restricted to that province.

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How they "feel" doesn't mean a damn thing in court. Put Chretien on trial first.

Are you saying that someone has to be officially charged with some kind of crime in order to be protested?

Have you bein drinking?Because what you are writting does not make sence.

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Of course not...some Serbians and Libyans can "protest" Canadian PM's as criminals without any charges being laid!

Then why are you saying that Cretien should be put on trial?

And as a side not many Canadians have protested Cretien and other Canadian leaders in the past.

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Then why are you saying that Cretien should be put on trial?

Because he is just as much a "war criminal" as Dick Cheney for bombing men, women, children, and puppies!

And as a side not many Canadians have protested Cretien and other Canadian leaders in the past.

I agree...Canadians are snoozeville when it comes to protests until Dick Cheney or Anne Coulter wakes them up.

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Because he is just as much a "war criminal" as Dick Cheney for bombing men, women, children, and puppies!

Hold on a second there buddy!

Cretein did not allow Canada to go into Iraq!

Iraq was the turning point for the US.Before Iraq there was still much sympathy for the US after 9-11.

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Hold on a second there buddy!

Cretein did not allow Canada to go into Iraq!

He was a "war criminal" long before Iraq....Kosovo (1999)

Iraq was the turning point for the US.Before Iraq there was still much sympathy for the US after 9-11.

Sympathy isn't worth a lot....tell it to the Taliban!

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Everyone has different ideas of who they'd like to hear speak - for different reasons - and I don't support others' attempts to deny them the opportunity just because they aren't interested.

Neither do I, we agree.

The young people here in Canada especially I have noticed, on campuses and whatnot, do not seem to have any idea what the Charter is or what it entails, or at least have no respect for it. I've taken university classes recently in political science, and the kids are smart as a whip, but for some reason when it comes to political action outside the classroom many of them turn into idiots, and scary ones at that.

Let's just say, I'm quite concerned for the future of Canadian politics.

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He was a "war criminal" long before Iraq....Kosovo (1999)

Sympathy isn't worth a lot....tell it to the Taliban!

OK then if you feel so strong about that,next time Cretien makes a public speech in the US get a few of your buddies together and go protest him.

If you do not like the fact that Canadians are protesting your idol,crying about it is not going to change how many up here feel.

As far as your taliban comment goes,what are you talking about?

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I guess the same rules don't apply to Cheney when he invades another country and tens of thousands of people die!

WWWTT

Yes, he personally invaded another country and killed people. :rolleyes:

Why are you always pretending to be obtuse? Does it make it easier to post.

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OK then if you feel so strong about that,next time Cretien makes a public speech in the US get a few of your buddies together and go protest him.

you're the one that apparently feels so strongly about it. How about you quit the double standard, and apply your outrage equally instead of selective? :rolleyes:

Stop being a hypocrite.

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