How the heck can something like this happen why would you give drunk s

[bush_cheney2004]

I think it was Derek who suggested this is exactly how we should be prosecuting this war, by destroying the things that the enemy is fighting for, it's villages, homes and children.

Not helpful for the bigger picture, which includes Pakistan. This is not just about Talibanskis.

This is the sort of pagan ethos that wins wars.

Only a fool ever expected just a military solution in Afghanistan.

[bush_cheney2004]

Exactly. But why bother with facts, when you can blame deaths that occur after 9/11 for the reason for 9/11.

Pretzel logic doesn't have to make any sense!

[eyeball]

Exactly. But why bother with facts, when you can blame deaths that occur after 9/11 for the reason for 9/11.

Who did that?

[olpfan1]

I didn't say that the killings were justified. I just stated that I can understand why it happened.

You said

Some might even say, Afghans had it coming.

Tell us what you really think Shady, do you believe those 9 children had it coming?

[olpfan1]

Yes, I do realize that. Tim G's reply was about single individuals committing mass murders - as was the case in this instance - but not on 9-11. This type of killing spree is quite different from 9-11 - where people trained, planned, financed, and then carried out the attacks.

and then you attack the WRONG COUNTRY in retaliation

The right country would have been Saudi Arabia DOY

[bush_cheney2004]

The right country would have been Saudi Arabia DOY

Why? Should the US also attack Canada because that's where the Millennium Bomber came from?

[olpfan1]

Why? Should the US also attack Canada because that's where the Millennium Bomber came from?

Don't you have to actually bomb your target or at least a revised target to be called the Millennium Bomber?

[bush_cheney2004]

Don't you have to actually bomb your target or at least a revised target to be called the Millennium Bomber?

Nope...one of the 9/11 aircraft never made it to the intended target, but you have already included those hijackers in your blame the Saudis mix. So which city in Canada should the US attack?

[Shady]

You said

Some might even say, Afghans had it coming.

Tell us what you really think Shady, do you believe those 9 children had it coming?

No, I don't believe that those 9 children, or anyone else killed in this tragedy deserved it. However, using the logic of some of the 9/11 defenders, one could say that after the killings of the US servicemen over the burning of some paper. They, as a whole, were in line for some blowback. Actions have consequences. And when you react like rabid monkeys to the simple burning of paper by killing people. There may be repercussions, like what we've recently seen.

and then you attack the WRONG COUNTRY in retaliation

The right country would have been Saudi Arabia DOY

No, the right country was Afghanistan. That's where the terrorist organization was stationed, that's where attacks were planned.

[olpfan1]

No, the right country was Afghanistan. That's where the terrorist organization was stationed, that's where attacks were planned.

So if a bunch of Saudis trained in Russia, NATO would have invaded Russia?

I'm not that stupid Shady & I didn't think you were either

but alas I'm wrong again

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[Guest American Woman]

and then you attack the WRONG COUNTRY in retaliation

It wasn't in "retaliation." If someone is attacking you personally and you fight back, are you doing it in retaliation or in defense?

The right country would have been Saudi Arabia DOY

What difference does their nationality make? The terrorist training camps weren't in Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda wasn't operating out of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi government had revoked bin Laden's citizenship. They were 'stationed' in Afghanistan.

[DogOnPorch]

So if a bunch of Saudis trained in Russia, NATO would have invaded Russia?

If Russia was behind 9-11 as per the Taliban, f**k yeah. Moscow would have been a crater.

[Guest American Woman]

So if a bunch of Saudis trained in Russia, NATO would have invaded Russia?

Absolutely. If that's where their training camps were and that's where they were operating out of - with the blessing and protection of the Russian government. What good would it do to "invade" Saudi Arabia?

Edited March 12, 2012 by American Woman

[olpfan1]

rofl, I think Dog is joking but I don't think AW is ... no way in hell would the U.S have done a thing in Russia

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[Guest American Woman]

rofl, I think Dog is joking but I don't think AW is ... no way in hell would the U.S have done a thing in Russia

Whatever you say.

[DogOnPorch]

rofl, I think Dog is joking but I don't think AW is ... no way in hell would the U.S have done a thing in Russia

I'm not joking. Had the Russians been behind 9-11 we'd be counting rad levels right now.

Edited March 12, 2012 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

Nope...one of the 9/11 aircraft never made it to the intended target, but you have already included those hijackers in your blame the Saudis mix. So which city in Canada should the US attack?

The majority of the hijackers were Saudi's. But let's not let that fact get in the way either.

[DogOnPorch]

The majority of the hijackers were Saudi's. But let's not let that fact get in the way either.

So? Which city? Vancouver is my bet.

[olpfan1]

Whatever you say.

You honestly believe the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT would allow the US military on its soil to kill people they perceive to be terrorists?

WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE ON?

Edited March 12, 2012 by olpfan1

[GostHacked]

So? Which city? Vancouver is my bet.

Ever been to Vancouver? You could have said Ottawa and you'd be more correct.

[bush_cheney2004]

I'm not joking. Had the Russians been behind 9-11 we'd be counting rad levels right now.

Yep...another case of not using metric units!

[Guest American Woman]

You honestly believe the RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT would allow the US military on its soil to kill people they perceive to be terrorists?

I don't believe one asks for such permission in a war. I don't believe we asked Japan if they would allow us on their soil to wage war after Pearl Harbor - and note that the U.S. didn't ask for permission to go into Pakistan to kill bin Laden.

WHAT WORLD DO YOU LIVE ON?

I live "on" the real world, not some alternate universe.

[olpfan1]

I don't believe one asks for such permission in a war. I don't believe we asked Japan if they would allow us on their soil to wage war after Pearl Harbor - and note that the U.S. didn't ask for permission to go into Pakistan to kill bin Laden.

I live "on" the real world, not some alternate universe.

you realize that ..that would have been nuclear war then right?

my god, its like you forgot who your adversary was during the middle to end part of the last century

[bush_cheney2004]

I don't believe one asks for such permission in a war. I don't believe we asked Japan if they would allow us on their soil to wage war after Pearl Harbor - and note that the U.S. didn't ask for permission to go into Pakistan to kill bin Laden.

Agreed...President Wilson sent two American Expeditionary Forces to Russia during the period 1918 - 1920 to guard the railroad and American property.

American troops have "occupied" small parts of Russia.

[olpfan1]

Agreed...President Wilson sent two American Expeditionary Forces to Russia during the period 1918 - 1920 to guard the railroad and American property.

American troops have "occupied" small parts of Russia.

You are using that as an example to show that they would have let U.S troops occupy and bomb targets in their country in 2001/2002 and beyond?

U.S meet Putin, Putin meet U.S, Putin no like U.S