Topaz Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Minister Moore is on the hot seat with SunTV after insulting a SunTV reporter after she tryied to get his comments on CBC's French porn channel and now SunTV is asking Harper for Moore job. Sun TV says Moore is a CBC fan, which could cause some problem for Harper because I read, some Tory backbenchers have started a petition to take CBC off the air. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/02/time-to-tune-out-minister-moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Minister Moore is on the hot seat with SunTV after insulting a SunTV reporter after she tryied to get his comments on CBC's French porn channel and now SunTV is asking Harper for Moore job. Sun TV says Moore is a CBC fan, which could cause some problem for Harper because I read, some Tory backbenchers have started a petition to take CBC off the air. http://www.torontosun.com/2012/02/02/time-to-tune-out-minister-moore According to the reporter he said "How are the Sunshine girls" Which is obviously a false comparison because the Sunshine girls aren't having sex and public money isn't put towards printing those photos. Ezra Levant doesn't like James Moore very much. Edited February 3, 2012 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 According to the reporter he said "How are the Sunshine girls" Which is obviously a false comparison because the Sunshine girls aren't having sex and public money isn't put towards printing those photos. Ezra Levant doesn't like James Moore very much. The show isn't pornography, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) The show isn't pornography, though. I guess we're working on a different definition of "porn". It's certainly Soft-core porn at the very least. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Microgalleries/2012/02/01/19326331.html?&pic=2 Those are some racy pics. The CBC has bowed to pressure a bit by only allowing the link to the show to be visible from midnight-4am. I guess the point that's being made here is why is the CBC buying a program like this? It's not even Can Con. Edited February 3, 2012 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I guess the point that's being made here is why is the CBC buying a program like this? It's not even Can Con. Hmm....lets see, advertising rates can go up when people read about it like in this thread or the 100 or so papers that reported it. Note to Lilley@the Sun : Thanks so much for the free advertising and promotion. Signed Your pals at the CBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Hmm....lets see, advertising rates can go up when people read about it like in this thread or the 100 or so papers that reported it. Note to Lilley@the Sun : Thanks so much for the free advertising and promotion. Signed Your pals at the CBC. So it's a case of No News is Bad News? CBC Exec: We need to raise some awareness to our French Website. I know lets buy a French Softcore Pron program and it'll get those fascists at Sun Media all pissed off and the ad revenue will just start rolling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 So it's a case of No News is Bad News? Huh? CBC Exec: We need to raise some awareness to our French Website. I know lets buy a French Softcore Pron program and it'll get those fascists at Sun Media all pissed off and the ad revenue will just start rolling it. No, I would not think they planned it that way at all. But the Sun is pretty dumb, seems the more they cry about the CBC the more people get behind the CBC. If nothing else, the Sun fails to see the validity of the CBC to most Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 At any rate, our publicly funded media broadcasting outlet has no business promoting it. Says who? And if it makes money for the CBC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Says me, and many of the people who fund them. Well, with a $1 and your opinion about the CBC , you could get a latte at Tims. They have a business to run, and will see fit to do it there way,even if you and I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) I think the problem Sun has with the CBC is not that they lack validity, it's that they are a publicly funded broadcasting corporation that has an obvious bias, which contradicts their purpose an Canada's broadcasting voice. Then there's the fact that all though they are publicly funded, they also have the right to compete with private broadcasters for advertising dollars. They are playing both sides of the fence, which puts them at an unfair competitive advantage. If they want to truly be Canada's voice, lose the bias, and work within their budget, otherwise privatize and keep both their bias and their right to compete in the free market. Bias? They have a news hour with a centre left slant. That leaves about 22 hours of programming that is entertainment or informative on what is happening in Canada. CTV, SNN all get govt monies to produce shows, grants for production costs and so on. Kind of hypocritical on their part. Edited February 3, 2012 by guyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 That, you and I agree on, and that's the fundamental problem with them. Quite the opposite. If they fail to run it well , then they will face the consequences. I have no problem with the CBC on the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I guess we're working on a different definition of "porn". It's certainly Soft-core porn at the very least. http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Microgalleries/2012/02/01/19326331.html?&pic=2 Those are some racy pics. The CBC has bowed to pressure a bit by only allowing the link to the show to be visible from midnight-4am. That's mild compared to what anybody can find online. If you need to go to the Radio Canada website to find porn, you don't know how to use the internet. I guess the point that's being made here is why is the CBC buying a program like this? It's not even Can Con. And if they were running Can Con shows, people would bitch about why the shows are crappy or why taxpayer $ is being used to produce "porn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 My link I'm not sure why this is relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Wow, CTV got a billion dollars a year in government grants? That I did not know. Me neither. Who said they did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 This is just more SunTV vs the CBC. People at SunTV don't like the CBC because it's not a right-wing station, and they think its left-slanted. It's not a left-wing station IMO, just not a right-wing one either. If the CBC had a huge right-wing slant like SunTV then people at SunTV wouldn't be calling for its privatization etc. Of course, the rare time SunTV bangs on a CPC MP is when they criticize SunTV and seemingly supports the CBC. Yawn. At least the issue of porn on the CBC is relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 It's relevant because the people who are picking up the tab should have access to how much these people make. Why is this information such a secret? If the CBC wants to be a public corporation, then the public should have access to this. Why does knowing their identity matter a jot? I assume they enjoy the same rights to privacy as any other public employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 730 CBC Employees make over $100,00 per year and? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 and? You don't see the problem with a defacto government organization having 730 people on the Sunshine list? I'm sure the private companies they compete with don't have anywhere close to that many people making 6-figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 It's relevant because the people who are picking up the tab should have access to how much these people make. Why is this information such a secret? If the CBC wants to be a public corporation, then the public should have access to this. Again, if the CBC wants to adopt and function under a private business model, I have no problem with this. But you can't have it both ways. Lots of problems with this. Knowing who makes $100K doesn't really does it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 CBC is putting it online to up the ratings ,so they can come back to goverment and say look how well we are doing online, give us more money. All about the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) My point is, there's an obvious difference between production grants received by private corporations and the government funding that the CBC receives. It's not even the same playing field. Private companies have to apply and be approved for government grants. There are checks and balances along the way to ensure they qualify. The CBC has no such checks and balances. It's sort of like saying Person A and Person B can both write off dependents on their taxes but Person B can also write off their mortgage and car loans. Person A cant. When Person A protests, Person B says but you can write off your dependents. The government grants organizations like Sun Media applies for are open to anyone. The 1.1 Billion the CBC gets is set aside only for them. Now if it can be proven that the CBC only uses that 1.1 bil on preserving Canadian heritage and stuff and the rest of their operations are privately funded, I'd have no problem with that but the CBC goes to great lengths to keep how they spend the government money they receive private. Edited February 3, 2012 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 My point is, there's an obvious difference between production grants received by private corporations and the government funding that the CBC receives. It's not even the same playing field. Private companies have to apply and be approved for government grants. There are checks and balances along the way to ensure they qualify. The CBC has no such checks and balances. Nope sorry aint buying it. They both recieve public funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 You don't see the problem with a defacto government organization having 730 people on the Sunshine list? I'm sure the private companies they compete with don't have anywhere close to that many people making 6-figures. I imagine CTV has lots of employees making that.....and a helluva lot more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 CBC is putting it online to up the ratings ,so they can come back to goverment and say look how well we are doing online, give us more money. All about the money. The CPC already boosted their funding of CBC before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I imagine CTV has lots of employees making that.....and a helluva lot more. I don't have evidence either way. But then again CTV is a privately owned company so they can keep the wages of their employees private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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