DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) It’s quite obvious why they never used their nuclear advantage well they had it……….The industrial military complex……..Much more profitable to have a engineered cold war for decades, then nuke the Commies back in the late 40s But of course. They had all this Occupy X stuff planned since 1954...little do they know their movement is merely a CIA experiment in mind and crowd control. Mr Illuminati: OK...let's make them occupy the sewage plant next. But, the fact remains there was about a 5 year period where the US had the ability but did not use it even with NOBODY to stop them. And that was with Curtis LeMay in charge. Edited January 31, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
August1991 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Would the US use a Nuke? The US is the only country that has used a Nuke in war.And the US didn't use it once. They used it twice.It was Harry Truman who made the decision and Truman was the classic American politician: the populist Newt Gingrich of his day. But Truman was a better poker player than Gingrich, and his decision to drop two bombs has given a strong hand to every future US president. US President Truman meant business. Would the US use a Nuke? The mere credible threat is enough to keep people in line. And that's what Truman gave all future US presidents. So we know how militant the Americans are invading ever god knows inch of land that exists on this planet, can they really be trusted with nuclear technology even if it is just for producing energy?Weird view of the world, Ashley.If the RCMP/Canadian military can use high-powered rifles/bazookas, do you think the Hell's Angels should also have the right to own/use them? I know that the US is not the world's police man but I see a difference between the US government and, say, the Iranian regime. Ashley, do you see a difference? Edited January 31, 2012 by August1991 Quote
Guest Derek L Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 But of course. They had all this Occupy X stuff planned since 1954...little do they know their movement is merely a CIA experiment in mind and crowd control. But, the fact remains there was about a 5 year period where the US had the ability but did not use it even with NOBODY to stop them. And that was with Curtis LeMay in charge. I wouldn’t be surprised………The hat makers industrial complex killed Kennedy for flaunting his bare head……They’re capable of anything. Quote
kimmy Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Would the US use a Nuke? The US is the only country that has used a Nuke in war. And appropriately so. There is no telling how many soldiers and Japanese civilians might have been killed had the war continued, but it's entirely reasonable to think that it would have come at a cost to Japan and its people that would have made Hiroshima and Nagasaki pale in comparison. I think his post is sarcastic. I think. Of course. He wonders why people are contemplating military action to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons capability, yet we accept that the warlike Americans have nuclear weapons, without question. The answer, I think is that the United States has a 70 year track record proving that they are careful stewards of their nuclear weapons; whereas the only conclusion that can be drawn from Iran's track record is that they're a bunch of idiots. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
cybercoma Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 the United States has a 70 year track record proving that they are careful stewards of their nuclear weapons; whereas the only conclusion that can be drawn from Iran's track record is that they're a bunch of idiots. -k Interesting. How many wars has Iran started? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Interesting. How many wars has Iran started? Interesting. How many wars has the US started? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kimmy Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Interesting. How many wars has Iran started? I think you're well aware that people are less concerned with the prospect of Iran starting open war than with Iran's history of supporting terrorist activity. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
August1991 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Interesting. How many wars has Iran started?That's a measure of what, exactly?It is as if you are asking how many people the Hell's Angels have arrested - and using that as a measure of "goodness" or "righteousness". ---- Cybercoma, if you cannot see a difference between the US government and the Iranian regime, or the RCMP and the Hell's Angels, then I guess you should read some more books, travel some more, talk to more people and, as they say, you should broaden your horizons. Frankly, I reckon that people like you cybercoma have decided that you hate the US - and you don't really know or care about Iran or anywhere else, as long as they oppose the US. IOW, for you, it's all about the US. New York Yankees? Bad! And cybercoma, you support any team that beats the Yankees. Cybercoma and Ashley, you're anti-fanboys. Edited January 31, 2012 by August1991 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Iran = Persia Very long history of conquest and wars in the region. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Iran Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Interesting. How many wars has the US started? IN the last decade (although when you term it something else like 'kinetic military action' it ain't war. Right? Iraq Afghanistan Pakistan (But no one wants to call it a war) Libya (sure under the guise of Humanitarian aid under NATO) Congo (another proxy war between the USA and Russia) Iran (covert war soon to be triggered to an all out overt war) Just to name a few. Regardless of the reasons for these wars, they are still wars. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 IN the last decade (although when you term it something else like 'kinetic military action' it ain't war. Right? Iraq Afghanistan Pakistan (But no one wants to call it a war) Libya (sure under the guise of Humanitarian aid under NATO) Congo (another proxy war between the USA and Russia) Iran (covert war soon to be triggered to an all out overt war) Just to name a few. Regardless of the reasons for these wars, they are still wars. Iraq: No. Saddam started that one. Afghanistan: No. 9-11 started that. Pakistan: Nobody wants to call it a war because Pakistan isn't at war w/ the US. Libya: Daffy started that one. Short memory? Congo: Get serious. Iran: Not at war. Any others you'd like to blame on the US? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Iraq: No. Saddam started that one. Iraq invaded Kuwait the first time, which warrented an attack on Iraq. But for the second war, which the USA started, and really went alone, that was indeed instigated by the west. Iran is shaping up the same way. Afghanistan: No. 9-11 started that. Wrong. Al-Queda started it. They happened to live in Afghanistan at the time, but also operated in Pakistan, Yemen and other countries. Pakistan: Nobody wants to call it a war because Pakistan isn't at war w/ the US. The US does not want to have an all out war with Pakistan, they got nukes!!!!!! And most of the country is run by lawless terrorists. Why would the USA make so many cross border drone attacks on suspected militan bases within Pakistan? Libya: Daffy started that one. Short memory? We have several threads proving you wrong. Selective memory? Congo: Get serious. Get informed. Iran: Not at war. Get informed. Sanctions are the first step. Remember Iraq? Short and selective memory? Any others you'd like to blame on the US? We can probably dig up a few more. One more off the top of my head. Yemen - USA drone attack on suspected militants within the country. Edited January 31, 2012 by GostHacked Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Like your understanding of the Arab-Israeli conflict, I think you need a wee bit more schooling in world history. Saddam started Iraq and there was only one war with a truce in the middle. 9-11 is al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Again, the US hasn't started a war with Pakistan. Interesting you think the US started the Libyan civil war. They didn't. The Congo has been fighting itself and neighbors since its creation. Iran: Again...not a war. So which other ones did America start? WW2?? Edited January 31, 2012 by DogOnPorch Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 So which other ones did America start? WW2?? The American Revolution. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 The American Revolution. Well...you got me there...don't forget 1861-65. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Like your understanding of the Arab-Israeli conflict, I think you need a wee bit more schooling in world history. You can trot out Mufti and Co again if it fits your narrative. I may lack knowledge there, (which I have admitted but is always used against me by people who can't think of anything substantial to say) Saddam started Iraq and there was only one war with a truce in the middle. Sure sure, it was an 'intermission' all part of ONE war in which Saddam started. Some revisionism going on right here. So when the USA goes back in a 3rd time, is that all part of the same war? 9-11 is al-Qaeda and the Taliban. Al-Queda was known to operate in many countries. And was also apparently responsible for the USS Cole near Yemen, and the US Embassy in (I think it was Nigeria, in which AL-Queda claimed responsibility. Again, the US hasn't started a war with Pakistan. "Kentic Military Action". Right .. sure, not a war, when it is a war. If you are making cross border attacks on people inside another country without authorization from said country is a violation of it's sovereignty and is considered an act of war. Interesting you think the US started the Libyan civil war. They didn't. Kinetic Military Action. But why would foreign entities need to step in for a so called humanitarian crisis when really the beef was a political issue at the start between Italy and Libya. The Congo has been fighting itself and neighbors since its creation. Iran: Again...not a war. Any of these action above made by anyone else on the USA would be treated with utmost contempt. If the USA had hijacked an Iranian drone over US territory, you BET the USA would be the largest crier on the block trying to gain support to turn Iran into a peice of Glass. Hell they already are trying to get Iran to attack the USA or Israel in some way so they can go in with full force. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 You're ranting, Dave. You should calm down and perhaps take a stress pill.---HALDOG-9000 So did the US start any wars or not? Other than their own two, of course. Please point me to the correct web page containing these events. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 So did the US start any wars or not? Other than their own two, of course. Please point me to the correct web page containing these events. Krikey...you mean we're not even allowed to start our own recreational wars? No wonder Canada and the USA went separate ways! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Krikey...you mean we're not even allowed to start our own recreational wars? No wonder Canada and the USA went separate ways! Well you know he's just dying to say Viet-Nam but then thought better of it. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 Well you know he's just dying to say Viet-Nam but then thought better of it. Kids! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted January 31, 2012 Report Posted January 31, 2012 You said it……..like he nuked Grenada Or nuked Libya. Quote
Wolf Larsen Posted February 4, 2012 Report Posted February 4, 2012 It would not surprise me if the nuclear nuts in the White House start World War III one day. Homo sapiens has been around for at least 100,000 years. Do you think we can survive another 100,000 years with a nuclear bomb? How about surviving another 1000 years with the nuclear bomb? The Republicans are portrayed by the liberals as the evil warmongers. However, it was Harry Truman (a Democrat) who ordered the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And it was John F. Kennedy (a Democrat) who brought the world to the brink of a nuclear holocaust during the Cuban missile crisis. We cannot trust these politicians Democrat or Republican with the atomic button. Quote Capitalism Sucks!
Wild Bill Posted February 4, 2012 Report Posted February 4, 2012 It would not surprise me if the nuclear nuts in the White House start World War III one day. Homo sapiens has been around for at least 100,000 years. Do you think we can survive another 100,000 years with a nuclear bomb? How about surviving another 1000 years with the nuclear bomb? The Republicans are portrayed by the liberals as the evil warmongers. However, it was Harry Truman (a Democrat) who ordered the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And it was John F. Kennedy (a Democrat) who brought the world to the brink of a nuclear holocaust during the Cuban missile crisis. We cannot trust these politicians Democrat or Republican with the atomic button. You know, Stephan Hawking said that it is imperative for Man to colonize the Moon and other planets, that if we don't go into space we may snuff out the one chance of Life in the Cosmos. All our eggs in the one basket right now, as it were. So what does Obarmy, the American President, do? He slashes even more away from an already gutted NASA and its space programs! I agree with you! It's not just the Americans, however. There's always some berserker who's prepared to die! And take millions with him! Take a good look at Iran! Man escaped much of the war devastation in Europe by moving to the New World of North and South America. Now, going into space would also be such an escape! Once we are permanently living up there, Mankind will never have to worry about being wiped out. If we're spread out enough, most of us would always survive. Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
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