So does this make your blood boil?

[Michael Hardner]

When the Carter administration's attempt to save the Iranian hostages failed, there were US soldiers killed in a helicopter crash - this was in the 70s. I remember that there were stories of the Iranians desecrating the bodies of the dead soldiers, and this was put forward as proof of the barbarity of that regime.

It's deplorable behavior, but whether you personally get angry about it or not is your issue. Also, the US is dealing with this responsibly, which the Iranians never did.

I also don't understand the idea that we should compare the west to the Taliban whenever we do something wrong, presumably to feel better about ourselves.

[DogOnPorch]

My answer to all the above questions is "no."

Oh...what the Hell...lol.

:lol:

Edited January 13, 2012 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

Winning hearts and minds around the world.

[Guest Manny]

Winning hearts and minds around the world.

It shows that we are animals too, just like them. Plus the fact that lots of people have absolutely no problem with it, as evidenced right here.

[Wild Bill]

Save the feigned outrage, is anyone really surprised at that behaviour?

I mean, come on, keep in mind who it is....

And apparently they've identified two of the jarheads....

Perhaps that's the most important factor. The Marines WILL try to identify the perps and take action!

I hardly think the Taliban would do such if the situation were reversed.

[Guest Peeves]

Yeah, it will. Taping was a dumb thing to do. However, the criticism does seem to be rather one-sided. Nobody says boo about atrocities committed by Taliban and other Islamist radicals.

I think that's because when you criticize someone or something in the West someone actually listens and might care about what you think! Taliban types would just snort and ignore you. If you became too much of a pest about it they'd likely shoot you without a second's thought!

There's no fun in being righteous when you don't have an audience.

Anyone stupid enough to be filmed doing something like that needs to be Court Marshalled.

I mean if they're that stupid why would you give them a gun.

As for the pissing part, I would piss on them my self if there was no one recording the event...hell, I'd do worse than that.

[cybercoma]

This story gets a big meh, like another poster already stated. There's a reason why war is a pretty bad thing. This is just another reminder. Like it or not, this type of thing goes on in every conflict. Hell, some of the things I've read about Allied soldiers doing to Nazi captives, and killed makes this particular story look like a college hazing.

I love how people like you take this disgusting apathetic attitude to horrific activities in war as just par for the course. You can't even make the connection that "this type of thing goes on in every conflict," so we should do everything we can to avoid conflict and only go to war as a last resort.

[cybercoma]

Anyone stupid enough to be filmed doing something like that needs to be Court Marshalled.

I mean if they're that stupid why would you give them a gun.

As for the pissing part, I would piss on them my self if there was no one recording the event...hell, I'd do worse than that.

Oh... I see. The problem is "while the cameras are running." Maybe you should think about joining the Taliban, so you can be around your own barbaric ilk.

[bush_cheney2004]

Stay classy, USA! Way to stoop to the level of those you condemn. So much for that moral high-road.

Yea, maybe the USA should disband the Marine Corps just like Canada's Airborne Regiment. That'll show 'em!

The unbecoming / unprofessional behaviour in this case is less about the event and more about the larger "optics" (Canada speak).

[bush_cheney2004]

.....You can't even make the connection that "this type of thing goes on in every conflict," so we should do everything we can to avoid conflict and only go to war as a last resort.

That's ridiculous....we don't want to go to war because soldiers might pee on corpses? There are a lot of better reasons than that. Sheesh....

[DogOnPorch]

That's ridiculous....we don't want to go to war because soldiers might pee on corpses? There are a lot of better reasons than that. Sheesh....

[bush_cheney2004]

True story....back in the 70's, we were taught in the military to pee on the entrails of a wounded comrade to keep the tissues moist and ward off infection. Apparently urine is somewhat sterile right out of the "spigot" and good in a pinch for cleansing wounds.

Edited January 13, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[Wild Bill]

True story....back in the 70's, we were taught in the military to pee on the entrails of a wounded comrade to keep the tissues moist and ward off infection. Apparently urine is somewhat sterile right out of the "spigot" and good in a pinch for cleansing wounds.

Quite true!

[DogOnPorch]

True story....back in the 70's, we were taught in the military to pee on the entrails of a wounded comrade to keep the tissues moist ward off infection. Apparently urine is somewhat sterile right out of the "spigot" and good in a pinch for cleansing wounds.

Ideal in case of chlorine gas attacks, as well.

[bush_cheney2004]

Ideal in case of chlorine gas attacks, as well.

Cool...thanks for the tip, I never knew that. So maybe, just maybe, these Marines are really heroes who were trying to save the lives of wounded Taliban fighters!

[DogOnPorch]

Cool...thanks for the tip, I never knew that. So maybe, just maybe, these Marines are really heroes who were trying to save the lives of wounded Taliban fighters!

Yes...at 2nd Ypres a bright young chemist in the fight yelled out the suggestion to pee on your hankies as the chlorine rolled over.

[bush_cheney2004]

Yes...at 2nd Ypres a bright young chemist in the fight yelled out the suggestion to pee on your hankies as the chlorine rolled over.

At the risk of being crude, I had a girlfriend who was an interior designer, and to get the right patina on certain objects she would boil stuff on the stove in her own urine. She was a lot of fun, but not marriage material. Hard to explain that to mom. Nowadays, peeing on stuff is all over the Web, not just in Afghanastan!

[Guest American Woman]

It shows that we are animals too, just like them.

Yep. Peeing on a corpse, beheading innocent people. "Just like them."

[Guest American Woman]

I also don't understand the idea that we should compare the west to the Taliban whenever we do something wrong, presumably to feel better about ourselves.

It's not a matter of comparing. It's a matter of recognizing them for what they are.

[Michael Hardner]

It's not a matter of comparing. It's a matter of recognizing them for what they are.

If the thread is about a misdeed on our side then why bring them into it, except to compare?

[Boges]

True story....back in the 70's, we were taught in the military to pee on the entrails of a wounded comrade to keep the tissues moist and ward off infection. Apparently urine is somewhat sterile right out of the "spigot" and good in a pinch for cleansing wounds.

Good to know. This means those Marines weren't desecrating the bodies they were just attempting to sterilize them to prevent the spread of disease.

[eyeball]

To tell the truth, I'm sure most aren't giving it much thought at all.

It seems that way. I guess the thing that stands out about this to me is how the apathy develops a harder edge in the face of people who do give it some thought. It's not the things that matter so much as the concern that builds around them.

There's lot of that going around these days - a similar increasingly ugly disdain for the concern that is displayed towards other important issues, the environment, human right's, economic disparity, social justice, health and mental illness in particular. If you're not hard on something you're obviously soft on it...if you're not with us you're against us.

It's not hard to imagine a day when concerned people might want to keep their opinions to themselves. There are places in the world where people disappear when they do and nobody gets to concerned and we seem to be closing in on a similar place with each passing year and election cycle.

I guess this is inevitable given a growing population in an increasingly desperate economy on a planet of shrinking resources. Like a cage full of rats or a shrinking water-hole surrounded by animals...both are meaner harder places for all.

Get hard or stay thirsty my friends.

Edited January 13, 2012 by eyeball

[Guest American Woman]

It seems that way. I guess the thing that stands out about this to me is how the apathy develops a harder edge in the face of people who do give it some thought. It's not the things that matter so much as the concern that builds around them.

[..]

With all of the terrible things going on in the world, seriously, how high would you rate this? I don't think it's that people are apathetic, but in light of all the truly sad things going on, they just don't rate this incident that high. You, on the other hand, display more concern over it than you do murders by terrorists, terrible things that the Taliban are doing on a daily basis. To people who are alive.

You seem to be making the mistake of thinking that everyone must have the same level of concern as you do for the same things that you do - or they are apathetic, they are not "concerned people."

That is far from true.

As I already pointed out, this matter is being dealt with. It was wrong, but it's not something to make most people's blood boil.

[bush_cheney2004]

...I guess this is inevitable given a growing population in an increasingly desperate economy on a planet of shrinking resources. Like a cage full of rats or a shrinking water-hole surrounded by animals...both are meaner harder places for all.

Yet the irony is that most of such issues were far more dire when the population was smaller. We have much better cages today for the "rats".

[DogOnPorch]

Meh...I could post a vid of thousands of Americans dying on 9-11...but, try to post a vid of the enemy @ work.