PIK Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1108186--star-investigation-ornge-spends-600-000-on-degrees-for-top-executives?bn=1 And what is the star doing being the one that broke it, maybe they have finally seen the light and are changing their ways. It seems initial on the radio reports that this is going to be huge. Edited December 29, 2011 by PIK Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted December 29, 2011 Report Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1108186--star-investigation-ornge-spends-600-000-on-degrees-for-top-executives?bn=1 And what is the star doing being the one that broke it, maybe they have finally seen the light and are changing their ways. It seems initial on the radio reports that this is going to be huge. Big News Sells? My brother works for a University, got a free MBA that way. Edited December 29, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
jbg Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1108186--star-investigation-ornge-spends-600-000-on-degrees-for-top-executives?bn=1 And what is the star doing being the one that broke it, maybe they have finally seen the light and are changing their ways. It seems initial on the radio reports that this is going to be huge. What does this have to do with McGuinty? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
waldo Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 What does this have to do with McGuinty? excellent point... talk about an arms-length relationship. in any case, this is fairly standard benefit available with larger corporations. Clearly PIK is in major reach mode here... Quote
jbg Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 excellent point... talk about an arms-length relationship. in any case, this is fairly standard benefit available with larger corporations. Clearly PIK is in major reach mode here... Granted. I don't like McGuinty in particular. My reaction to the post and the article was "huh"? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
CPCFTW Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 in any case, this is fairly standard benefit available with larger corporations. Clearly PIK is in major reach mode here... Cite? Most larger corporations would hire graduated MBAs for executive roles in the first place. This type of benefit is far from standard and would only apply to an exceptional individual who had climbed the corporate ladder through years of hard work to an exec position and needed some letters on his/her resume to back up the work experience. BS much? Quote
jbg Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Cite? Most larger corporations would hire graduated MBAs for executive roles in the first place. This type of benefit is far from standard and would only apply to an exceptional individual who had climbed the corporate ladder through years of hard work to an exec position and needed some letters on his/her resume to back up the work experience. BS much? Still no Dalton connection. Help me please on that. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Boges Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 My mother is a nurse and inorder to be moved into a management position she needed a University Degree. Should she have paid that out of her own pocket? Quote
Evening Star Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Ha, I keep wondering the same thing, jbg. Quote
Boges Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Ha, I keep wondering the same thing, jbg. Hey if Stephen Harper's can be blamed for Attawapiskat, Daddy Dalton can be blamed for this. Quote
waldo Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 in any case, this is fairly standard benefit available with larger corporations. Cite? Most larger corporations would hire graduated MBAs for executive roles in the first place. This type of benefit is far from standard and would only apply to an exceptional individual who had climbed the corporate ladder through years of hard work to an exec position and needed some letters on his/her resume to back up the work experience. BS much? huh! You call BS and then proceed to layout the path available - go figure. Why embarrass yourself quibbling over an interpretation of "standard". - Canadian Universities offering Executive MBA programs ... go ahead, separate out the online and part-time offerings from the listed grouping... just to see how silly you look, hey? I could quite easily expand this to the U.S. but... while pile on! Still no Dalton connection. Help me please on that. jbg... apparently, no one cares to even attempt to connect the dots, not even PIK! It would seem some are to preoccupied with 'standard' word parsing! Quote
Shakeyhands Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) My mother is a nurse and inorder to be moved into a management position she needed a University Degree. Should she have paid that out of her own pocket? Yes. Edited December 30, 2011 by Shakeyhands Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Shakeyhands Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Hey if Stephen Harper's can be blamed for Attawapiskat, Daddy Dalton can be blamed for this. Aren't you over in another thread giving me a hard time about this very thing that you are doing here? And enough with the Daddy Dalton crap, it's so very immature, not to mention against the rules. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Boges Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Aren't you over in another thread giving me a hard time about this very thing that you are doing here? And enough with the Daddy Dalton crap, it's so very immature, not to mention against the rules. Which thread? The EI Premium one? I would call him McLiar but I was told that was against forum rules. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted December 30, 2011 Report Posted December 30, 2011 Which thread? The EI Premium one? I would call him McLiar but I was told that was against forum rules. The Ford Thread. And Daddy Dalton is also against forum rules. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Big Guy Posted January 1, 2012 Report Posted January 1, 2012 Strange way to describe the Dalton McGuinty who will probably soon be the next leader of the federal Liberals and PM when it is again the Liberals turn. I do not think that Dalton will run again in provincial politics. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Guest Peeves Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 What does this have to do with McGuinty? "Publicly paid official" Seems a government connection here to me. ORNGE air ambulance boss Dr. Chris Mazza was paid $1.4 million a year, making him the highest publicly paid official in Ontario.The Star is revealing this after two weeks of stonewalling by the air ambulance service. Health Minister Deb Matthews called Mazza’s salary and others at the non-profit ORNGE “outrageous, shocking and unacceptable.” http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1105806 That salary puts him $600,000 ahead of the highest paid hospital chief in the province and almost $65,000 ahead of the president of Ontario Power Generation. Mazza left his post on indefinite medical leave Thursday, departing from the “crystal palace,” the Toronto airport area headquarters where he once enjoyed a cold smoothie delivered to him at 3 p.m., fitness facilities and fine meals paid for by ORNGE. Quote
Shakeyhands Posted January 6, 2012 Report Posted January 6, 2012 "Publicly paid official" Seems a government connection here to me. Really? Goose, gander and all.... Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
capricorn Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Just a few days ago, Health Minister Deb Mathews announced legislation to tighten oversight as regards ORNGE. She called it "tightening the leash". Ontario's health minister is tightening the leash on the province's troubled air ambulance service, one day after police launched a criminal probe.Deb Matthews said Friday she will introduce legislation that will boost oversight of the agency, including more audit and inspections powers. http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120217/ornge-tighter-leash-health-120217/20120217/?hub=TorontoNewHome&cid=top Today, McGuinty stated he's disappointed that ORNGE's prior administration let the government and taxpayers down. Premier Dalton McGuinty says the ousted executives of Ontario’s embattled air ambulance service let the government down.He says the leadership at ORNGE, a publicly funded agency that’s currently under a criminal probe, also let its front-line workers and taxpayers down. McGuinty says ORNGE executives reassured Health Minister Deb Matthews that everything was fine at the agency after it came under fire for high salaries and questionable business practices. He says those reassurances proved to be false and Matthews acted responsibly by calling in the provincial police. But the opposition parties say the governing Liberals didn’t act until the problems at ORNGE became front-page news. http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1134428--ornge-execs-let-taxpayers-down-dalton-mcguinty?bn=1 Talk about washing your hands of responsibility and passing the buck all the while maintaining a straight face. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
PIK Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Posted February 21, 2012 But putting the OPP in charge, tells me a cover up is on the way. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olpfan1 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 But putting the OPP in charge, tells me a cover up is on the way. if the federal cons can get away with scandals i dont see why the provincial libs couldnt Quote
PIK Posted February 21, 2012 Author Report Posted February 21, 2012 if the federal cons can get away with scandals i dont see why the provincial libs couldnt Nice try, nobody and I mean nobody can scandal like a liberal. There will always be some, but harper is one of the cleanest govs he had in a long time. But as usual the left is all over harper but yet dalton who could bring the whole country down is getting a free ride. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
olpfan1 Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 Nice try, nobody and I mean nobody can scandal like a liberal. There will always be some, but harper is one of the cleanest govs he had in a long time. But as usual the left is all over harper but yet dalton who could bring the whole country down is getting a free ride. Lol, I think conservatives and liberals are equal in scandals... thats all of canadas history not just the last decade Quote
Smallc Posted February 21, 2012 Report Posted February 21, 2012 But putting the OPP in charge, tells me a cover up is on the way. How does it tell you that, exactly? Quote
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