scribblet Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Talk about hypocrisy and liberals in glass houses not throwing stones... It's okay for them to question and make fun of Harper's religion - hidden agenda yadda yadda, but not one of theirs - hypocrites !!! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/11/03/pol-justin-trudeau-faith-spat.html Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Newfoundlander Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Talk about hypocrisy and liberals in glass houses not throwing stones... It's okay for them to question and make fun of Harper's religion - hidden agenda yadda yadda, but not one of theirs - hypocrites !!! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/11/03/pol-justin-trudeau-faith-spat.html When have they made fun of Harper's religion? Quote
g_bambino Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 When have they made fun of Harper's religion? I think he means the still somewhat but less common Liberal tactic of painting Harper as a Christian fanatic with a scary agenda to impose the death penalty for sodomites, or some such Harper-eats-babies-esque thing. Quote
Guest Manny Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 I think he means the still somewhat but less common Liberal tactic of painting Harper as a Christian fanatic with a scary agenda to impose the death penalty for sodomites, or some such Harper-eats-babies-esque thing. Allow me to introduce Stockwell Day... Quote
g_bambino Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Allow me to introduce Stockwell Day... I think it's too late; he's already left. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Allow me to introduce Stockwell Day... allow me to introduce wyly, he does it about once a week. Quote The government should do something.
scribblet Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Posted November 4, 2011 I think he means the still somewhat but less common Liberal tactic of painting Harper as a Christian fanatic with a scary agenda to impose the death penalty for sodomites, or some such Harper-eats-babies-esque thing. Exactly... they still use Harper's religion in the usual scary agenda tactics, double standards and all... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Smallc Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 So that makes it okay for a Conservative to do it then? Isn't that hypocrisy? Quote
Newfoundlander Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Exactly... they still use Harper's religion in the usual scary agenda tactics, double standards and all... I haven't seen this mentioned, I believe Paul Martin used it but I can't remember seeing anything recently. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Talk about hypocrisy and liberals in glass houses not throwing stones... It's okay for them to question and make fun of Harper's religion - hidden agenda yadda yadda, but not one of theirs - hypocrites !!! http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/11/03/pol-justin-trudeau-faith-spat.html Oh for fuck's sake. The issue with religion with Harper and the CPC is the influence it has on policy. Any politician can believe what he or she wishes so long as it doesn't interfere their ability to represent their constituents. Quote
fellowtraveller Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Oh for fuck's sake. The issue with religion with Harper and the CPC is the influence it has on policy. Any politician can believe what he or she wishes so long as it doesn't interfere their ability to represent their constituents. Right on brother. Harper has just got started on his program to end abortion, repeal same sex marriage, destroy public health and education, force mandatory Church attendance and get a photo of Harper shaking hands with Jesus into every post office in the country. Any day now. Quote The government should do something.
olp1fan Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 (edited) Harpers a smart man, he knows better than to attack canadas social values...unlike the republicans in the U.S, I don't fear him in that regard Edited November 4, 2011 by olp1fan Quote
blueblood Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 So that makes it okay for a Conservative to do it then? Isn't that hypocrisy? When in rome, do as the romans do. If the libs wanted to portray the tories as bad for being religious, the libs better have their house in order. The libs fired the first shot... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Topaz Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 First of all, what does Harper's religion have to do with the story? For one thing, Harper's faith is one that many people know that much about and secondly, this is between another loud-mouth of the Tories, Del Mastro, who didn't like the fact that a Liberal came into HIS territory! If Del Mastro has a problem, then maybe he should think about retiring with his gold plated pension and go back to selling foreign cars! Quote
Black Dog Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Right on brother. Harper has just got started on his program to end abortion, repeal same sex marriage, destroy public health and education, force mandatory Church attendance and get a photo of Harper shaking hands with Jesus into every post office in the country. Any day now. I'm wondering if you're really dumb as all this or just a convincing act. Quote
PIK Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Then maybe the libs in this country should'nt treat trudeau like he is the 2nd coming of Christ. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Guest Peeves Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Right on brother. Harper has just got started on his program to end abortion, repeal same sex marriage, destroy public health and education, force mandatory Church attendance and get a photo of Harper shaking hands with Jesus into every post office in the country. Any day now. You missed the return of the inquisition and the destruction of the non secular state. Of course he's a dictator and Canada has no controls. NOT! Actually, compared to previous governments ours to day is quite benign, secular and democratic. Of course there are always going to be a few myopic, exaggerating, opponents willing to distort, embroider, fabricate, and hyperbolize for political partisanship. Quote
guyser Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Then maybe the libs in this country should'nt treat trudeau like he is the 2nd coming of Christ. But he was ! Quote
scribblet Posted November 4, 2011 Author Report Posted November 4, 2011 When in rome, do as the romans do. If the libs wanted to portray the tories as bad for being religious, the libs better have their house in order. The libs fired the first shot... Indeed, but maybe the Liberals been rethinking their position in branding the conservatives as "religious fanatics". They won the election so maybe the liberals need to be seen as defending religion - hey we got religion too ya know. Besides, the RC Church is against abortion, birth control and believe in creationism, so Justin must really have a dangerous hidden agenda.. Heck Liberal MPs even put forward a bill a http://openparliament.ca/bills/40-3/C-573/ for a Pope John Paul II Day supported by http://www.johnmckaymp.on.ca/newsshow.asp?int_id=80693 Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Keepitsimple Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 Funny how Trudeau comes right out and says that personally, he's against abortion....but he's OK with a woman's right to choose. If a Conservative took that stand in a CBC interview........ Quote Back to Basics
olp1fan Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 Funny how Trudeau comes right out and says that personally, he's against abortion....but he's OK with a woman's right to choose. If a Conservative took that stand in a CBC interview........ Hes okay with a woman's right to choose because ultimately the woman is the one who has to make that choice even if the man wants her to have the baby she doesn't have to men should have no choice in the matter so I don't know why this is always an issue in politics I guess Canada is lucky that Harper wants to avoid the whole discussion altogether, pretty smart move imo Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Faith is not an issue to me when it is kept at home. Faith is an issue to me when it is brought into politics. Faith is not rational or based on good science. Faith does not make good policy. I am not religious. I believe abortion is wrong in any situation resulting from consensual acts of sex. One thing I will never understand is why Christians tend to vote Conservative. Mythical Jesus would be under almost any other party before Conservative. I guess this is just another example of the hypocrisy in religion. Edited November 5, 2011 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
blueblood Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 (edited) Faith is not an issue to me when it is kept at home. Faith is an issue to me when it is brought into politics. Faith is not rational or based on good science. Faith does not make good policy. I am not religious. I believe abortion is wrong in any situation resulting from consensual acts of sex. One thing I will never understand is why Christians tend to vote Conservative. Mythical Jesus would be under almost any other party before Conservative. I guess this is just another example of the hypocrisy in religion. Oh really... My link Jesus says get your ass to work. Edited November 5, 2011 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Moonlight Graham Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 Must be a slow news day. What a boring story. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 Oh really... My link Jesus says get your ass to work. Show me a party that advocates to not work at all. I was specifically thinking about noble causes like: - helping the poor - accepting everyone - supporting those who are down on their luck - rising up against oppressive conditions Jesus was clearly a socialist by today's standards. Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
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