Is Israel about to bomb bomb bomb Iran?

Black Dog · November 3, 2011

Why should we disbelieve their words? Are you biting on the stereotype of Muslim fanatics, or secular Muslim leaders such as Saddam, as being liars as well as crazy? That is a bigoted, racist stereotype.

Obvious troll is obvious.

cybercoma · November 3, 2011

Interesting thought.... why is the Israel project not considered colonialism in the West?

kactus · November 3, 2011

No, it's not just Israel which has been part of the Maybe Has Nukes Club for a long time without destabilizing the region, and other states recognize this. Israel is not a signatory to the NPT, unlike Iran.

Well thanks to the israeli whistle blower vanunu mordechai there is a very strong possibility

that Israel possess the nuclear capability. So I am more inclined to say yes they have it rather than maybe.

Middle East is already a destabilized region thanks to weapons manufacturers arming the despotic monarch arab gulf countries namely Saudis to the teeth.

The point is not about whether Iran posseses nuclear bomb but rather why should Iran use it when the repercussions of an attack is clearly known.

cybercoma · November 3, 2011

I can see Israel attacking Iran with a nuke first and trying to spin it as "pre=emptive defense". Oh thank you GW for that logic. <_<

wyly · November 3, 2011

The point is not about whether Iran posseses nuclear bomb but rather why should Iran use it when the repercussions of an attack is clearly known.

of course that's a two way argument, why would israel use it's nukes if repercussions are clearly know to it...if iran acquires a nuclear weapons option israel's nuclear arsenal is effectively neutralized...

kactus · November 3, 2011

of course that's a two way argument, why would israel use it's nukes if repercussions are clearly know to it...if iran acquires a nuclear weapons option israel's nuclear arsenal is effectively neutralized...

That's true. However, by that logic you could also argue why countries like Iran threatened constantly by an attack from Israel or US may want ot go down the route of becoming nuclear as a deterrent.... Especially when the country is engulfed by US troops on both its borders (Afghanistan and Iraq)fearing you may be the next target!

DogOnPorch · November 3, 2011

Interesting thought.... why is the Israel project not considered colonialism in the West?

Because 'The West' paid for the entire area with the blood of an entire generation.

Edited November 3, 2011 by DogOnPorch

DogOnPorch · November 3, 2011

Yeah because we would not want to have the evidence come in the form of a mushroom cloud!!!

Ahahahahahahahhahaahhahahahahah.

No I wouldn't. You I'm not so sure about.

wyly · November 3, 2011

That's true. However, by that logic you could also argue why countries like Iran threatened constantly by an attack from Israel or US may want ot go down the route of becoming nuclear as a deterrent.... Especially when the country is engulfed by US troops on both its borders (Afghanistan and Iraq)fearing you may be the next target!

ya but the move to nuclear research came long before gwb included iran in implied threat "the axis of evil"...but certainly was obvious to iran nuclear powers don't get bombed or invaded by the US...

kactus · November 3, 2011

ya but the move to nuclear research came long before gwb included iran in implied threat "the axis of evil"...

yeah...Infact it goes back to Shah's era when Iran was still an ally...

Although an Iranian nuclear program has existed in some form since the 1950s, Iran’s push to enrich uranium and reach a nuclear breakout capability began in earnest during the Iran-Iraq War, and accelerated in the early 2000s

Full article:

http://www.defpro.com/news/details/29467/?SID=7978d17ae803d6d14fdb131ed8413327

Edited November 3, 2011 by kactus

olp1fan · November 4, 2011

Wait and see. That is a very dangerous attitude to take when talking about nuclear weapons. Wait and see for what? Their use?

as if real life is like the show 24

its good entertainment tho

olp1fan · November 4, 2011

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Edited November 4, 2011 by olp1fan

DogOnPorch · November 4, 2011

as if real life is like the show 24

its good entertainment tho

Last I checked, nuclear weapons were a fact and their use unthinkable. I suppose you have evidence to the contrary? Some here treat these things like some political poker chip...in fact, they are the end of life as we know it if they were to be used again. No more Cancun vacations...no more fancy Toyotas with GPS...no more jr hockey practice...no more anything.

Edited November 4, 2011 by DogOnPorch

Peter F · November 4, 2011

Last I checked, nuclear weapons were a fact and their use unthinkable. I suppose you have evidence to the contrary? Some here treat these things like some political poker chip...in fact, they are the end of life as we know it if they were to be used again. No more Cancun vacations...no more fancy Toyotas with GPS...no more jr hockey practice...no more anything.

Oh Crap! The effin Chinese have em!

DogOnPorch · November 4, 2011

But, on the bright side, most of the planet's a$$holes will burn in zee nuke-u-lar fires.

GostHacked · November 4, 2011

But, on the bright side, most of the planet's a$$holes will burn in zee nuke-u-lar fires.

And you thought you could hide from one.

fellowtraveller · November 4, 2011

Saying it and actually doing it are two diferent things.
Rhetorics is what we are all used to. Like WMD claims, bla, bla bla

Unfortunaetly, you do not have the focus provided by the Holocaust.

Israel wil not allow themselves to be annihilated by anybody, and Iran with nuclear weapons and delivery systems is a real and present danger in that regard.

fellowtraveller · November 4, 2011

I suppose you have evidence to the contrary?

Did you think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were holograms?

kactus · November 4, 2011

Unfortunaetly, you do not have the focus provided by the Holocaust.

Israel wil not allow themselves to be annihilated by anybody, and Iran with nuclear weapons and delivery systems is a real and present danger in that regard.

And do you think you have???

What has holocaust got to do with this? Why do people play this card everytime?!

No body is going to annihililate anybody! If Nazis committed those crimes against jews you can't go

for the rest of your life and place the blame on whichever future government you don't like or approve of and link it to existence of jews.

Where does all this madness end? Do you want to pick a fight with every single government that does not approve certain policies of Israel? What will that achieve apart from bolstering the position of fanatics all around the world?

If Iran attacks Israel conventionally or hypothetically by nuclear (which still there is no proof that they have) they will know the score! Iran endured a bloody war with Iraq and lost over million lives too. Aren't those lives lost dear to their family, friends and loved ones not worthy? Indeed any other conflicts?

If Israel attacks Iran without being attacked in the first place then yes israelis do have to answer for killing innocent people.

kactus · November 4, 2011

Did you think Hiroshima and Nagasaki were holograms?

Yeah, a country that indeed had nuclear (US) and used it against a non-nuclear state (Japan)

cybercoma · November 4, 2011

Moreover, the holocaust was entirely different. It was a systematic annihilation carried out through bureucratic processes. Dropping a nuke on any country is horrific, but it's not the same thing, even if it is Israel.

bush_cheney2004 · November 4, 2011

Yeah, a country that indeed had nuclear (US) and used it against a non-nuclear state (Japan)

Right....having nuclear weapons is more stabilizing except when dealing with terrorists or rogue states. The NPT set up an international status quo that Iran is attempting to change, and it has the right to do so, as well as accept any consequences.

The US/Allies killed far more "innocent people" with conventional incendiary bombs than with nuclear weapons during WW2.