punked Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 He is definitely establishment. But establishment is still a lot better than Obama. He never employed illegal workers. He doesn't, or has never cheated on taxes. He's never shipped or bankrupted any American companies. Companies bankrupt themselves by bad business decisions and/or bad business models. Sometimes businesses do outsource to other countries. Usually to stay competitive, or simply survive. Thanks to Obama's brutual regualtions and new taxes, he's done more to outsource jobs than any single person in the history of the country. Just wait for the election Shady. Just wait because the stories that are small now about Bain will get bigger, his taxes will come up again even though there are questions now about those off shore bank accounts Mitt isn't answering, and lets be serious his history isn't out there yet. Give it time these seeds are just being planted. Did you see his new favorably numbers? They are already as bad as Obamas and he aint even seen the light of day or a Billion dollar campaign. Might be best to go with Newt at least his stuff is all out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Thanks to Obama's brutual regualtions and new taxes, he's done more to outsource jobs than any single person in the history of the country. wow! Thought you were the guy who has, recently, lamented the dearth of 'real discussion' on MLW... that there's just too darn much 'talking point' discussion! which Obama, as you say, "brutal regulations and new taxes"?... responsible for more outsourced jobs than any single person in the history of the country! Which ones? Which regulations and which taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Which ones? Which regulations and which taxes? Mostly the 2000 pages of Obamacare, and the new fees and taxes associated with it. For example, the new tax on medical devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Mostly the 2000 pages of Obamacare, and the new fees and taxes associated with it. For example, the new tax on medical devices. oh my! Notwithstanding what's actually been implemented... just how many outsourced jobs have resulted... to support your declaration that, "Obama's brutal regulations and new taxes has done more to outsource jobs... than any single person in the history of the country"? How many outsourced jobs? How many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 oh my! Notwithstanding what's actually been implemented... just how many outsourced jobs have resulted... to support your declaration that, "Obama's brutal regulations and new taxes has done more to outsource jobs... than any single person in the history of the country"? How many outsourced jobs? How many? The Professor's contortions on this on should be interesting... Assuming he does'nt take into account the damage caused by 3 decades of neo-liberal economic policies rathter than the 4 year snipit of history he seems to crave.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 oh my! Notwithstanding what's actually been implemented... just how many outsourced jobs have resulted... to support your declaration that, "Obama's brutal regulations and new taxes has done more to outsource jobs... than any single person in the history of the country"? How many outsourced jobs? How many? This is just one example. But you can multiply it across various industries. Mass. device firms see health law as burdenMassachusetts medical-device companies say they’ll cut back on operational costs - and jobs - after a planned 2.3 percent tax on their products is implemented in 2013, according to a new survey. The Massachusetts Medical Device Industry Council, which held its annual meeting yesterday in Boston, said about 90 percent of the 100 medical-device firms said they would reduce costs due to the new tax tucked into the recently passed health-care reform bill Boston Herald Then of course, you have the thousands of jobs Obama recently outsourced when he killed the Keystone pipeline deal. Those jobs will now be done by Canadians and Chinese workers. I guess he figured that the manufacturing and construction workers in America just have it too damn good right now. Oh, and I almost forgot about the outsourced jobs he sent to South America, when he decided to put a moritorium on oil drilling in the gulf. So several oil rigs left from there and are now operating along the coast of South America. Heckuva job Obamie! He's the jobs president! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 So... no numbers, hey Shady? How many outsourced jobs? How many? This is just one example. But you can multiply it across various industries."Massachusetts medical-device companies say they’ll cut back on operational costs - and jobs - after a planned 2.3 percent tax on their products is implemented in 2013, according to a new survey." no numbers here, Shady? Not even any mention/suggestion of outsourcing jobs... even suggests "job cuts". But wow... a 2.3% tax on products! Those are seriously tough margins, hey? So... no outsourcing here. No outsourced jobs here. Then of course, you have the thousands of jobs Obama recently outsourced when he killed the Keystone pipeline deal. Those jobs will now be done by Canadians and Chinese workers. I guess he figured that the manufacturing and construction workers in America just have it too damn good right now. KXL hasn't been killed... why resort to fabrication to support your claims? In any case, there isn't a new alternate to KXL being pursued within Canada. Proposed Canadian pipelines have nothing to do with whatever decision the U.S. ultimately makes. So... no outsourcing here. No outsourced jobs here. Oh, and I almost forgot about the outsourced jobs he sent to South America, when he decided to put a moritorium on oil drilling in the gulf. So several oil rigs left from there and are now operating along the coast of South America. Heckuva job Obamie! He's the jobs president! something about that worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history... did you hear about it? In any case, the moratorium was relatively short-lived. Even if one were to accept your most liberal application redefining "outsourced jobs" to include "some number" of shifted oil rigs during a relatively short-lived moratorium (given the worst offshore oil spill in U.S. history), just how many "outsourced jobs" are you describing here? How many outsourced jobs? How many? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 More outsourcing via Obamanomics... First rig sails away over deep-water drilling banWASHINGTON — Diamond Offshore announced Friday that its Ocean Endeavor drilling rig will leave the Gulf of Mexico and move to Egyptian waters immediately — making it the first to abandon the United States in the wake of the BP oil spill and a ban on deep-water drilling. And the Ocean Endeavor's exodus probably won't be the last, according to oil industry officials and Gulf Coast leaders who warn that other companies eager to find work for the now-idled rigs are considering moving them outside the U.S. Link And... Two Transocean rigs to leave U.S. Gulf of MexicoHOUSTON, June 16 (Reuters) - Two floating Transocean (RIGN.VX: Quote) rigs are leaving the Gulf of Mexico to work off Africa as the slow return to normal in the region's deeper waters leads oil companies to put rigs to work elsewhere. Link Outsourcing, brought to you by the Obama administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 More outsourcing via Obamanomics... And... Outsourcing, brought to you by the Obama administration. Just want to point out Shady`s story about the riggs leaving ends like this ......though one (rigg) returned and two more could come back later this year. Shady you do know we can read right? Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Weber Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out Shady`s story about the riggs leaving ends like this Shady you do know we can read right? Seriously! He IS The Professor.... Of reading comprehension!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Just want to point out Shady`s story about the riggs leaving ends like this Shady you do know we can read right? Seriously! Yes, they could come back next year. Could. Doesn't mean they will. And it doesn't make the people that used to work those jobs in America feel any better. "Good news guys, I shipped away your jobs for the past couple of years, but they might come back next year. Maybe." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Shady you do know we can read right? Seriously! Absolutely. So you should be able to read all of the job outsourcing Obama's policies have led to. As well as job destruction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 More outsourcing via Obamanomics...Outsourcing, brought to you by the Obama administration. oil rigs! But... you still haven't given any numbers to support your declaration that, "Obama's brutal regulations and new taxes has done more to outsource jobs... than any single person in the history of the country"? How many outsourced jobs? How many? let me help you out: "Offshore installation's vary in size, but, a typical one houses a core crew of 50-100 men and women" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Then of course, you have the thousands of jobs Obama recently outsourced when he killed the Keystone pipeline deal. Those jobs will now be done by Canadians and Chinese workers. I guess he figured that the manufacturing and construction workers in America just have it too damn good right now. Does not really concern us north of the 49th. We can sell the oil to China or whoever can pay. The USA is not the only customer on the planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Does not really concern us north of the 49th. We can sell the oil to China or whoever can pay. The USA is not the only customer on the planet. You're right, but they are our biggest trading partner. Maybe some of that can be offset, but as the American economy goes, so goes Canada's. If they struggle, it's very difficult for us to build any kind of real economic momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 oh my! SuperPacASauras... Mitt's Blood Money trailer running on Florida TV stations the last few days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRz7LrQfIK4&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) oh my! SuperPacASauras... Mitt's Blood Money trailer running on Florida TV stations the last few days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRz7LrQfIK4&feature=player_embedded Not only is Newt hitting Mitt on his ties to Medicare cheating scandal but the Dems are jumping on board to. Here is the actual video from the Newt campaign it is worth watching, hits Romney HARD on Medicare AND gives plenty of details. It has got to the point if Newt can't win he is going to make sure that Mitt can't win either. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVUQuJDEs04&feature=player_embedded Edited January 28, 2012 by punked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Not only is Newt hitting Mitt And yet Gingrich still insists that Romney would a significant improvement as President than Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 And yet Gingrich still insists that Romney would a significant improvement as President than Obama. You can't run in a Republican Primary with out saying that Mao would be better then whoever the Dem you are running against is. What does that really say? It says there is a problem in American politics and nothing else Shady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 It says there is a problem in American politics and nothing else Shady. No, it just says its American politics. More interesting than (fill in the blank). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 You can't run in a Republican Primary with out saying that Mao would be better then whoever the Dem you are running against is. What does that really say? It says there is a problem in American politics and nothing else Shady. No. Gingrich firmly believes that Obama's been a disaster as President, and that any of the Republican candidates would be much better for the country. I didn't know you were such a big Gingrich supporter. I'm sure you agree with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 ....and of course, it was perfectly acceptable "politics" to associate President Bush with der Führer: http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 ....and of course, it was perfectly acceptable "politics" to associate President Bush with der Führer: http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html Ah, the good ol'Bushitler days. I actually forgot about that until now. And yet, Obama supporters get upset when he's just called a socialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Ah, the good ol'Bushitler days. I actually forgot about that until now. And yet, Obama supporters get upset when he's just called a socialist. No socialist get upset Shady there is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest American Woman Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 No socialist get upset Shady there is a difference. Not all Obama supporters are socialists though, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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