GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 And Ron Paul is a kook. Now that that's out of our system, how about real discussion? Shady wanting REAL discussion? Say it ain't so! Quote
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Shady wanting REAL discussion? Say it ain't so! Yep, you should try it sometime. Perhaps when the Ron Paul kool-aid wears off! Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Exactly. To me, actions speak much louder than words as a politician. So when I look at what Romney's done as a governor, as a business leader, as a manager, and in the Olympics, it gives us a good body of work. It shows us how he would manage and govern as a president and as a leader. Soundbites from speeches or debates from things said now, or 15 years ago aren't that relevant in my mind. A resume matters more. Let's look at Bain Capitol and how they systematically killed successful businesses that were making a profit. Quote
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Let's look at Bain Capitol and how they systematically killed successful businesses that were making a profit. But he didn't. Not even your pal Ron Paul thinks that. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Yep, you should try it sometime. Perhaps when the Ron Paul kool-aid wears off! Like I said before: Supporting the constitution, yep pure freakin insanity there. Reducing size of government, totally whacked out craziness again , right Shady? Lowering taxes and well, getting rid of the Fed and IRS, may seem crazy, but the bail outs are kind of whack as well. End lobbying and corporatism, .. kooooooookeeeeeeeeeeee. Advocating personal responsibility in your daily life so the nanny state does not need to babysit idiots .. again craaaazzyyyyyyy. Ending the wars, bringing the troops home ... yep I drunk too much kool-aid. Gioving power back to the states to have them run their own affairs like was intended at the start of the nation... nuts!!!! Supporting the main document in which the country was founded on is not crazy at all. It's the one article that helped borne the USA. Articles like the PATRIOT Act and the National Defense Authorization Act actually sideline and make some of the articles in the constitution void. Shitting all over a founding document in my view is pure true insanity. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 But he didn't. Not even your pal Ron Paul thinks that. Cite? Quote
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Let's look at Bain Capitol and how they systematically killed successful businesses that were making a profit. Here, I'll help you out even more. "But, not attacking him on Bains, they've asked me about it and I said explicitly that that's part of the market. That's the way the market works. Restructuring is a market principle, and those who are jumping on him either they don't understand economics, or if they do understand economics, they're demagoguing the issue." - Ron Paul, January 13, 2012. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Here, I'll help you out even more. How about a link to that wonderful quote? Quote
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 How about a link to that wonderful quote? Starts at the 4 minute mark. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Starts at the 4 minute mark. Oh I see. I guess Paul is more eluding too that the system is broken and needs fixing. Which allowed Romney and Bain to get away with what they did. Like they say, don't hate the playah, hate the game. The game is rigged. I'll give you that little victory. You called Obama winning last time, and if your track record is right, Romney will get in, and be worse than Obama which is worse than Bush .... there is a trend, I am surprised not many see it. Ah well, the government you "elect" is the one you deserve. Quote
jbg Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Exactly. To me, actions speak much louder than words as a politician. So when I look at what Romney's done as a governor, as a business leader, as a manager, and in the Olympics, it gives us a good body of work. It shows us how he would manage and govern as a president and as a leader. Soundbites from speeches or debates from things said now, or 15 years ago aren't that relevant in my mind. A resume matters more. And as far as flip-flopping, what one would do as governor of a deep blue state like Massachusetts is far different than what one would do as President of the U.S. In Canada Premiers rarely become PM's. In fact I think that happened only once. In the U.S. it happens often. Even Ronald Reagan had a far more liberal record as Governor of California than as President. And few called him a flip-flopper. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 Oh I see. I guess Paul is more eluding too that the system is broken and needs fixing. No, he's not saying the system is broken. He's saying that's how the system is suppose to work. Which allowed Romney and Bain to get away with what they did. Get away with what? Investing and creating companies like Staples, The Sports Authority, American Steel, etc? Quote
punked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 No, he's not saying the system is broken. He's saying that's how the system is suppose to work. Get away with what? Investing and creating companies like Staples, The Sports Authority, American Steel, etc? American Steel remind me again Shady? That is the only where Romney took a 37 million dollar BAIL OUT from the Federal government right? Bail outs you and Romney are against. HYPOCRITE ALERT! Quote
Shady Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 American Steel remind me again Shady? That is the only where Romney took a 37 million dollar BAIL OUT from the Federal government right? Bail outs you and Romney are against. HYPOCRITE ALERT! I'm not aware of any bailout. Besides that, I'm pretty sure Romney was for TARP. Quote
punked Posted January 17, 2012 Report Posted January 17, 2012 (edited) I'm not aware of any bailout. Besides that, I'm pretty sure Romney was for TARP. I am sure you are not aware of a bailout because you don't actually know who Romney is, clearly your research has failed you. Don't worry you learn all about the Bail out, tax avoiding, out sourcing, and job Killing Romney as the campaign wears on I assure you. Remind me he was the one who was employing illegals in his home right? I seem to remember a NYT article he wrote about the Auto Bail outs and how the government shouldn't pick winners and loser. I guess he only meant he wants the government to pick him as a winner eh? HYPOCRITE! Edited January 17, 2012 by punked Quote
Battletoads Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 http://www.scribd.com/fullscreen/78582788 200 pages of info complied on Romney, by McCain. Quote "You can lead a Conservative to knowledge, but you can't make him think."
Shady Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 I am sure you are not aware of a bailout Well, then please inform me. Or are you still incapable of having any real discussion? tax avoiding What tax avoiding? out sourcing What outsourcing are you referring to? Regardless, sometimes outsourcing is required in order to save a business and/or make it more competetive. Obama's probably done more to enhance outsourcing than any other President in the history of the country. With his moritorium on oil drilling sending oil rigs off the coast of the gulf and on to work in South American waters, to his EPA regulations that have significantly burdened other energy industries like coal, to his Obamacare regulations that have significantly burdened small businesses. and job Killing See above regarding the current president, who's done more to kill jobs than any in the history of the country. In fact, when the administration took over GM during its bailout, they cut jobs, cut benefits, and closed dealerships. Also, has he approved Keystone yet? And then of course there's his amazing job creation policies pronounced by him during the 2008 campaign. Remind me he was the one who was employing illegals in his home right? Nope, the company he asked to provide a service to his home was. Should he have asked to see each of their employee's papers? On what basis, because some of them look Hispanic? Classy punked. Quote
GostHacked Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 Well, then please inform me. Or are you still incapable of having any real discussion? What do you mean obtuse?? Quote
Shady Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 What do you mean obtuse?? That's what I thought. Quote
punked Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 BAIL OUT'S you got them Shady. What's more, a federal government insurance agency had to pony up $44 million to bail out the company's underfunded pension plan. Nevertheless, Bain profited on the deal, receiving $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees. Job Killing you got it. Not only is he a Job killer but he took plenty of money out of pension that WORKERS paid into. Some might even say Bain STOLE that money from worker. Less than a decade later, the mill was padlocked and some 750 people lost their jobs. Workers were denied the severance pay and health insurance they'd been promised, and their pension benefits were cut by as much as $400 a month. http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/06/us-campaign-romney-bailout-idUSTRE8050LL20120106 Heck that is just one steel plant. Romney has plenty of Skeletons you have no clue about Shady. BTW his Favorables are down by 5% over the last week Nation Wide his are worse then Obama's now. That is a great candidate you are backing. Quote
punked Posted January 18, 2012 Report Posted January 18, 2012 What tax avoiding? Just thought I should come post this ABC News article here. It is titled ROMNEY PARKS MILLIONS IN OFFSHORE TAX HAVEN. Bust what tax avoiding right Shady? Seriously though do you know nothing about the candidate you support? I would say from your responses in this thread yes. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/romney-parks-millions-offshore-tax-haven/story?id=15378566#.TxdErvmlO2V Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Romney had a near-meltdown in the debate tonight when confronted with questions about his tax return. He started stuttering and making incomplete sentences again, as he did the other day when the issue was raised. The audience booed him in this part of the debate. Clearly, more material for the Colbert Report! What's interesting too is that CNN edited this part out when they showed the "interesting highlights" of the debate. They showed part of the section where Romney gave his answer, but cut out the part where he started speaking erratically and stuttering. Like he has something to hide there. If I was team Obama, I would definitely be taking notes on this. Edited January 20, 2012 by Manny Quote
capricorn Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Romney had a near-meltdown in the debate tonight when confronted with questions about his tax return. --- Like he has something to hide there. Of course he does. Mitt paid like, what, 15% in taxes while Newt paid 35%? On that front, it's a contest between the two as to who relates best to the "little people". If I was Newt I'd be asking Mitt how he swings it. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
kimmy Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) I watched much of tonight's debate, and the tax return portion was definitely a weak moment for Mitt. I don't think it was Stephane Dion bad, but it sure didn't help him any, and might cost him what could have been an opportunity to bury Newt once and for all. Like he has something to hide there. If I was team Obama, I would definitely be taking notes on this. They'll have his tax returns out in public well before the election. -k Edited January 20, 2012 by kimmy Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
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