Jack Weber Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Did I hear Ron Paul muse out loud that the US needs a national Right to Work bill??? The NAM members who fund his political campaign,along with the members of the Koch Bros. funded Cato Institute must be giggling with corporate glee!!! 'Cause RTW is all about the individual personal freedom... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
GostHacked Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 I think Paul's campaign has about run it's course. Bachman, GONE! Cain, GONE! Perry, GONE! Hunstman GONE!! Compared to the clowns that are left, Paul has a very good chance. It will come down to Paul and Romney. Quote
Shady Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) It will come down to Paul and Romney. Paul's polling in 4th place in South Carolina right now. Gingrich will probably win, followed by Romney, Santorum, and then Ron Paul. Oh, and in my opinion, Paul IS the only clown that's left. Edited January 20, 2012 by Shady Quote
GostHacked Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Paul's polling in 4th place in South Carolina right now. Gingrich will probably win, followed by Romney, Santorum, and then Ron Paul. Oh, and in my opinion, Paul IS the only clown that's left. Well, again, you called Obama with the win, and look where that got you? If your prediction is right this time, Romney will win, and take the USA further down that hole. Paul is only a clown to those who don't recognize integrity when they see it. Quote
Shady Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 If your prediction is right this time, Romney will win, and take the USA further down that hole. I'm not so sure Romney will win. At least not any time soon. The primary process will go on for at least another month or so. Gingrich could very well in South Carolina. Meaning of the remaining 4 candidates. Only Ron Paul has yet to win anything. He won't win Florida, the next primary to take place. That'll probably go to Romney or Gingrich, so Paul will be 0 for 5. In fact, I don't know if Ron Paul will win even one state. He won't even win his home state of Texas. So please, tell me how you see him winning in the end? Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Ron Paul isn't focusing on South Carolina. He is putting more of his money towards the following caucus states. Also, coming in first doesn't matter, it is all about how many delegates you can get. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Kiraly Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Paul's polling in 4th place in South Carolina right now. Right now? The six polls I've seen yesterday or today, have Paul either tied or leading Sanitorium in Sud-Karolina. Quote
Shady Posted January 20, 2012 Report Posted January 20, 2012 Right now? The six polls I've seen yesterday or today, have Paul either tied or leading Sanitorium in Sud-Karolina. Ok, so he's in a battle for 3rd/4th place, way behind the leaders. Same in Florida. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Are people crazy? No politician stands for change except Ron Paul...Gingrich, Obama, Romney, they are all the same, nothing will change if the get elected, why do people flock to them? This world blows my mind. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Jack Weber Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Are people crazy? No politician stands for change except Ron Paul...Gingrich, Obama, Romney, they are all the same, nothing will change if the get elected, why do people flock to them? This world blows my mind. Change to what?? National RTW?? Drastically reducing the standard of living under the guise of personal freedom to assist the likes of the NAM and the Koch Bros. vis a vis "competition" with China? I know what the change is...It's Blueblood's dream come to life... A return to the Robber Baron era... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
bud Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Change to what?? National RTW?? Drastically reducing the standard of living under the guise of personal freedom to assist the likes of the NAM and the Koch Bros. vis a vis "competition" with China? I know what the change is...It's Blueblood's dream come to life... A return to the Robber Baron era... got links showing their support for ron paul? i wasn't able to find anything in the first couple of pages on google. most of the articles i saw was about how the koch brothers like cain and dislike paul. Quote http://whoprofits.org/
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 got links showing their support for ron paul? i wasn't able to find anything in the first couple of pages on google. most of the articles i saw was about how the koch brothers like cain and dislike paul. Yeah that's right and what's also telling is how the mainstream media and corporations dislike Paul. And Paul is not a wealthy man. If he wants to be a "Robber Baron", he'd do well to copy Mitch Romney, because that's exactly what he really is!! Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 ...Paul is not a wealthy man. Don't know about you, but I consider anyone with a net worth of $2.4 - $5.4 million to be wealthy. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Ok, so he's in a battle for 3rd/4th place, way behind the leaders. Same in Florida. According to http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/calculator/ Romney has won 14 delegates, Ron Paul has 10, Santorum 8 and Gingrich 2. So Ron Paul is the "contender" at this point, despite not having won. Is it possible for someone to win the primary if they consistently come in a strong second, while the others have larger variations win/lose in each state? Edited January 21, 2012 by Manny Quote
Guest American Woman Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 According to http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2012/calculator/ Romney has won 14 delegates, Ron Paul has 10, Santorum 8 and Gingrich 2. So Ron Paul is the "contender" at this point, despite not having won. Is it possible for someone to win the primary if they consistently come in a strong second, while the others have larger variations win/lose in each state? Ron Paul doesn't represent the traditional Republican party platform, and he will not be given the nomination by the Republican party. Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Ron Paul doesn't represent the traditional Republican party platform, and he will not be given the nomination by the Republican party. Of course he won't. And I think Ron Paul pretty well knows that. That's not necessarily why he even does what he does.I was hoping that you or someone else who knows would answer my question though. Edited January 21, 2012 by Manny Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 I was hoping that you or someone else who knows would answer my question though. Your question was malformed...if you meant win the party's nomination just based on very consistent second place results in state primaries and caucuses, then the answer is no. The second place winner still must be in striking distance of a majority delegate count (1,144 out of 2,286), including separate super delegates (about 7% of the total) for the GOP. If no majority winner is declared on the first convention ballot, then delegates are released to vote for other candidates according to state party rules. Ron Paul will not be nominated by the Republican Party for president, but he has an outside shot for the bottom of the ticket just to mollify the Tea Party faithful. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Of course he won't. And I think Ron Paul pretty well knows that. That's not necessarily why he even does what he does. Yeah, I'm sure. I was hoping that you or someone else who knows would answer my question though. It's possible for someone to win the nomination even if they don't place at all in the primaries. If no candidate wins more than 50% of the delegates by convention time, it becomes a "brokered convention" - which means anyone the Republicans want can win the nomination. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) delete Edited January 21, 2012 by maple_leafs182 Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
Guest Manny Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 Yeah, I'm sure. Ron Paul has said so himself, on occasion. It's possible for someone to win the nomination even if they don't place at all in the primaries. If no candidate wins more than 50% of the delegates by convention time, it becomes a "brokered convention" - which means anyone the Republicans want can win the nomination. Ok, well I get what both of you are saying. But is it also true that even if the candidate wind the majority, the party doesn't have to nominate them? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 ...Ok, well I get what both of you are saying. But is it also true that even if the candidate wind the majority, the party doesn't have to nominate them? Yes that is true, but highly unlikely, and would cause a lot of party infighting that would culminate is a loss to President Obama. See Goldwater 1964. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted January 21, 2012 Report Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Ron Paul has said so himself, on occasion. I'm sure he has. Sorta like "it's an honor just to have been nominated....." - which no one really believes. Ok, well I get what both of you are saying. But is it also true that even if the candidate wind the majority, the party doesn't have to nominate them? One candidate has to win over 50% of the delegates, not just the majority of the votes, or it's anyone's game. From what I understand, if one candidate does receive over 50% of the delegates, that candidate wins the nomination* - but it will be highly unlikely that someone will get over 50%. Just winning the state doesn't give that candidate all of the state's delegates in most instances. *See bush_cheney's post Edited January 21, 2012 by American Woman Quote
Guest Manny Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks for the information. It's a very interesting process to watch. Political entertainment at its finest! Quote
sharkman Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 It's time for Paul to throw in the towel. Quote
maple_leafs182 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Posted January 22, 2012 It's time for Paul to throw in the towel. Paul has more delegates then Santorum and has only 4 delegates less then Romney. Quote │ _______ [███STOP███]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ :::::::--------------Conservatives beleive ▄▅█FUNDING THIS█▅▄▃▂- - - - - --- -- -- -- -------- Liberals lie I██████████████████] ...◥⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙▲⊙'(='.'=)' ⊙
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