jbg Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 The Arab Spring's roots are being planted here. If that is the template thsi really isn't good. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 ...The Arab Spring's roots are being planted here. Great...more Yankee wannabes. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
jacee Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Rolling Stone weighs in ... There is a huge number of Americans who simply don't realize that they've been victimized by Wall Street – that they've paid inflated commodity prices due to irresponsible speculation and manipulation, seen their home values depressed by corruption in the mortgage markets, subsidized banker bonuses with their tax dollars and/or been forced to pay usurious interest rates for consumer credit, among other things I would imagine the end game of any movement against Wall Street corruption is going to involve some very elaborate organization. There are going to have to be consumer and investor boycotts, shareholder revolts, criminal prosecutions, new laws passed, and other moves. But a good first step is making people aware of the battle lines. It sounds like these demonstrations have that potential. Anyway, I'm going to check them out tomorrow. http://m.rollingstone.com/?redirurl=/politics/blogs/taibblog/occupy-wall-street-drawing-the-battle-lines-20110927 Edited October 3, 2011 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 If that is the template thsi really isn't good. Oh it's good alright ... if you're not one of the 1%, or their bootlicking politicians, or their bankers, or their spies ... Quote
jacee Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 Great...more Yankee wannabes. Strange comment, coming from a Canadian wannabe. Quote
jacee Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 Well, they already "shit" in the street...and Ziploc bags! Where are you getting this? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Strange comment, coming from a Canadian wannabe. That's what they all say....but the focus on America continues unabated. I wonder why? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 So they want to try this in Toronto. Who wants to bet that CUPE is going to lead the rallying cry for Occupy Bay Street? Which is hilarious that public service unions who are among the more privileged people in this country would protest. The people who really should protest are too busy working. I understand why they're doing it in the US where poverty and unemployment are far more systematic as well as the fact that the Super Rich have far more influence. Not so much here. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I've heard about it over the weekend that they want to bring this to Bay Street in Toronto as well. But don't think that we up in Canada are in better shape than those south of the 49th. Most financial systems seem to be crumbling right in front of our eyes. Interesting times. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 ....I understand why they're doing it in the US where poverty and unemployment are far more systematic as well as the fact that the Super Rich have far more influence. Not so much here. Depends on how it's measured...being on EI isn't exactly an emloyement program. Historically, Canadian unemployment rates were greater in Canada than the US, and Canadian workers remain less productive than workers in the USA. Canada has no official poverty stats because it can't agree on how to measure such things, however this does not make the poverty in Canada go away. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Depends on how it's measured...being on EI isn't exactly an emloyement program. Historically, Canadian unemployment rates were greater in Canada than the US, and Canadian workers remain less productive than workers in the USA. Canada has no official poverty stats because it can't agree on how to measure such things, however this does not make the poverty in Canada go away. We keep our poverty very private. We stick them in run down hotels - give them all the drugs they want - tnen at night around pay day - and ambulance comes and quietly takes them away - one at a time feet first. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 The French revolution will not take place on Wall or Bay Street. It will not take palce at all - cos we are more refined - we will bride the malcontents and they will take the meger payment and go home. Quote
Shady Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Anyone seen the interviews with these protesters? They're definitely not the sharpest tools in the shed! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Anyone seen the interviews with these protesters? They're definitely not the sharpest tools in the shed! Maybe they were better off without MSM attention...what a bunch of unemployed boobs. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Anyone seen the interviews with these protesters? They're definitely not the sharpest tools in the shed! You can tell by looking at them that they are equipped with I-pods and are listening to Judy Collins and Led Zeplin - odd..how young people embrace the romaitc notions of a by-gone era...I know a jazz guitarist that is about 24 years old - He dressess exactly like it was 1967...bizarre. Well not as strange as the guy on my street who has died black hair and dresses like Elvis...so are caught in a time warp - a loop with the same tune playing over and over again. I don`t respect dellusionary revolutionaries...all the hippy movement did was open the door to the ecceptance of the dumping of personal responsilbity - all the movement did was allow the evil folks to take over - while the long hairs rolled down the meadow hills with their skirts flaring ---and crying out - weeeeeeee. Quote
jacee Posted October 3, 2011 Author Report Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) occupy bay street Canada Occupy Calgary Occupy Montrea Occupy Newfoundland Occupy Nova Scotia Occupy Ottawa Occupy Toronto Market Exchange Occupy Vancouver Occupy Victoria Europe goes out Oct 15. And Canada It looks like over 100 US cities out now See list here ... http://www.occupytogether.org/ And update ... We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail. Tonight we march on One Police Plaza. Edited October 3, 2011 by jacee Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Canada Occupy Calgary Occupy Montrea Occupy Newfoundland Occupy Nova Scotia Occupy Ottawa Occupy Toronto Market Exchange Occupy Vancouver Occupy Victoria Europe goes out Oct 15. And Canada Wow...that's more American wannabes than I thought...organized by American mainstream social media. Isn't America a wonderful country! Edited October 3, 2011 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CitizenX Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Great Article The Best Among Us - By Chris Hedges There are no excuses left. Either you join the revolt taking place on Wall Street and in the financial districts of other cities across the country or you stand on the wrong side of history. Either you obstruct, in the only form left to us, which is civil disobedience, the plundering by the criminal class on Wall Street and accelerated destruction of the ecosystem that sustains the human species, or become the passive enabler of a monstrous evil. Either you taste, feel and smell the intoxication of freedom and revolt or sink into the miasma of despair and apathy. Either you are a rebel or a slave. Quote "The rich people have their lobbyists and the poor people have their feet." The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Wow...that's more American wannabes than I thought...organized by American mainstream social media. Isn't America a wonderful country! Stop bragging - American soical media and media in general are great force for passification of twits - They give them the encouragement and the right and the media coverage to make them feel that they are actually winning some groud - all the protestors will get in the end is a pat on the head and told they are free ----cos as the song says - money`s to tight to mention. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Wow...that's more American wannabes than I thought...organized by American mainstream social media. Isn't America a wonderful country! The USA is a nice country, it's just parts of the government that are screwing it up for the rest of you. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Stop bragging - American soical media and media in general are great force for passification of twits - I agree, but look how much the "world" laps this stuff up....from YouTube to Twitter. It's very odd...America Sucks! except for all the things they like about it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Sir Bandelot Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I agree, but look how much the "world" laps this stuff up....from YouTube to Twitter. It's very odd...America Sucks! except for all the things they like about it. Not odd at all. Most people can use their intelligence to decide what's good or bad about certain things. Only a complete partisan would find that 'odd'. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 I agree, but look how much the "world" laps this stuff up....from YouTube to Twitter. It's very odd...America Sucks! except for all the things they like about it. Do they think that the people in the towers on Wall and Bay Street are going to start dumping buckets of cash on their hippy heads..........The only way you can get the ultra rich to cough up the cash is by force - which is a futile idea - cos once you have taken the money via revolution - or a type of civil war - the very system that generates the money will be destroyed - and this will guarentee future poverty for all --------------great plan...lol Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Not odd at all. Most people can use their intelligence to decide what's good or bad about certain things. Only a complete partisan would find that 'odd'. America has always been a combination of good and bad....so what has changed? Where is the intelligence in "America Sucks"? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 America has always been a combination of good and bad....so what has changed? Where is the intelligence in "America Sucks"? . Quote
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