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Well, I've heard only a few quotes from him, and they sure sounded pretty damn religious. Something along the lines of "America's economy is in the hands of God" or whatever. A statement I strongly disagree with, of course. Then again, the only coverage of Perry I've seen has been on the Colbert Report and the Daily Show so I could be wrong :lol:

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I predict that Rick Perry will in fact be President.

Much like how Reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983, I predict Obama will win in a landslide in 2012.

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Once again, absolutely wrong.

Bush was around the mid 20s by the time of the 2008 election.

Obama is currently around 40%, not far below where Bush was when he was reelected in 2004.

The relevant measure is Bush's approval ratings in summer 2007. And they were not high, but not horrific at that point if I recall correctly.
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Much like how Reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983, I predict Obama will win in a landslide in 2012.

I predicted before the last election that whoever won would only be a one term president - and I still believe it's true.

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I predicted before the last election that whoever won would only be a one term president - and I still believe it's true.

I think you are correct here as well. Obama will be a one term president, he served his purpose.

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Much like how Reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983, I predict Obama will win in a landslide in 2012.

This shows that you are out of touch with the reality of the situation. When Obama loses, some will be totally shocked and this includes the far left.

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This shows that you are out of touch with the reality of the situation.

As opposed to you, who thought his approval numbers were lower than Bush's? I remember fondly you arguing that Obama would never be president. It must be difficult coming back after repeatedly being so wrong.

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Your memory is mixing me up with others I think, but I don't mind going on record this time and predicting Obama's loss in 2012. You have already predicted he will win, since Reagan won in 84. I may have been a little off on the Bush approval numbers, but Obama has dropped below 40% according to Gallop, with over a year to go. How low will he go? Depends on the recession and jobs most likely. His only chance is a major gaff by the competitor that the MSM is able to parlay into a disaster. Do you actually think Obama's going to have a landslide or are you just playing devil's advocate?

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Do you actually think Obama's going to have a landslide or are you just playing devil's advocate?

I actually believe the GOP is incapable of nominating a candidate who will appeal to moderates.

A person who accuses Bernanke of treason for engaging in Keynesian economics is not such a candidate.

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... I predict Obama will win in a landslide in 2012.

well... a win, at least. Obama's 2008 campaign raised $750,000... "pundits" project his 2012 campaign coffers will quite easily ring with more than a billion dollars... the machine will ramp up again! In these earliest of days, we haven't yet seen the GOP turning inwards on itself - that will shortly start as Romney begins to fight back/hard at Perry. Ultimately, none of the current GOP field has a hope against Obama... they can't continue to play to the teabaggers while presuming to appeal to moderates.

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well... a win, at least. Obama's 2008 campaign raised $750,000... "pundits" project his 2012 campaign coffers will quite easily ring with more than a billion dollars... the machine will ramp up again! In these earliest of days, we haven't yet seen the GOP turning inwards on itself - that will shortly start as Romney begins to fight back/hard at Perry. Ultimately, none of the current GOP field has a hope against Obama... they can't continue to play to the teabaggers while presuming to appeal to moderates.

Obama raised a lot more than $750,000. As for the other candidates, ultimately they all have a decent chance of winning. Obama's been a complete economic disaster. He's only made things worse.

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I actually believe the GOP is incapable of nominating a candidate who will appeal to moderates.

A person who accuses Bernanke of treason for engaging in Keynesian economics is not such a candidate.

Or a person whose solution to bad economic times is to call a prayerfest. That strikes me as all too similar to ancient barbarians who, in response to poor crops, sacrifice a virgin to the sun God. Anything that goes wrong, it's because the gods are angry! We must appease the gods somehow!

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Or a person whose solution to bad economic times is to call a prayerfest. That strikes me as all too similar to ancient barbarians who, in response to poor crops, sacrifice a virgin to the sun God. Anything that goes wrong, it's because the gods are angry! We must appease the gods somehow!

I don't truly think Perry believes that.
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I don't truly think Perry believes that.

It's the way he acts. It's funny, but for all your being a country which constitutionally draws a line in the sand on the separation between church and state your politicians, particularly the Republicans, all seem to want to insist that God is calling them, and that their policies are drawn from God's teachings, and their desires are really just those of God Himself, and that only the ungodly would be opposed.

Meanwhile, in Canada, which has no formal separation, we tend to look askance at politicians who openly bring their religious beliefs into political discussions.

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The more I read about this guy and Michelle Bachmann, the more I believe that they're real live hardcore religious fruitcakes.

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It's the way he acts. It's funny, but for all your being a country which constitutionally draws a line in the sand on the separation between church and state your politicians, particularly the Republicans, all seem to want to insist that God is calling them, and that their policies are drawn from God's teachings, and their desires are really just those of God Himself, and that only the ungodly would be opposed.

This is a common myth...their is no such language in the US Constitution. The concept was derived from Jefferson's writings based on the 1st Amendment and supported by subsequent court rulings. Indeed, several colonies had established religions upon forming the nation at time of independence and this would continue for many years afterwards. "God" was added to American currency and patriotic hymns in relatively modern times.

Meanwhile, in Canada, which has no formal separation, we tend to look askance at politicians who openly bring their religious beliefs into political discussions.

That's OK....Canadians tend to look at American politicians for entertainment, not because they have to because of any specific relevance. Trudeau and JFK very publicly displayed their religion to no lasting ill effect.

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Or a person whose solution to bad economic times is to call a prayerfest.

It's called political theatre. Just like shaking hands and kissing babies.

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Much like how Reagan had a 35% approval rating in 1983, I predict Obama will win in a landslide in 2012.

Good luck with that prediction. Tell me, which states did Obama lose in '08 that he'll pick up in '12?

Anyways, comparing Reagan to Obama is apples and oranges. In 1983, economic growth was at 7%. Obama's economy is humming along at 1.5% growth. In 1983, the economy was producing 200,000 - 500,000 jobs per month. Under Obama's economy, current job growth is at zero.

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Good luck with that prediction. Tell me, which states did Obama lose in '08 that he'll pick up in '12?

Anyways, comparing Reagan to Obama is apples and oranges. In 1983, economic growth was at 7%. Obama's economy is humming along at 1.5% growth. In 1983, the economy was producing 200,000 - 500,000 jobs per month. Under Obama's economy, current job growth is at zero.

The economy today is very much a result of Reagans policies though. Not only is he the grandfather of the US debt but hes the guy that started destroying the US industries that drove the middle class and charted the path towards the "service based economy" (which is what you see today).

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The economy today is very much a result of Reagans policies though. Not only is he the grandfather of the US debt but hes the guy that started destroying the US industries that drove the middle class and charted the path towards the "service based economy" (which is what you see today).

Complete nonsense. The economy today is a result of a deeply depressed US housing market.

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The economy today is very much a result of Reagans policies though. Not only is he the grandfather of the US debt but hes the guy that started destroying the US industries that drove the middle class and charted the path towards the "service based economy" (which is what you see today).

...and many Americans wish we had President Reagan back today! ;)

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Complete nonsense. The economy today is a result of a deeply depressed US housing market.

Agreed....and the rest of the world wishes Americans would just keep racking up debt for consumption that keeps the party rolling.

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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That's OK....Canadians tend to look at American politicians for entertainment, not because they have to because of any specific relevance. Trudeau and JFK very publicly displayed their religion to no lasting ill effect.

No. Canadians watch U.S. politics the same way a mouse keeps track of a neighboring elephant's activities.

  • Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone."
  • Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds.
  • Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location?
  • The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).

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