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No kidding...the Canadian Prime Minister (Paul Martin) was playing footsie with Ghadaffi in his tent, trying to get sweet oil services contracts, the same way he did after the invasion of Iraq. Martin liked to pet the camels!

As for the bombs, this is just a repeat of what happened in 1999 (Kosovo) when Canada ran out of guided munitions. They had to go to the American depot at Aviano and buy more with their credit card...at full price!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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The war in Libya requires more smart bombs and Canada is doing its share, at a cost of 100,000 a piece. Gee, I wonder how many people Canada can kill with those?

Probably less than Canada killed in WW I and WW II. Why do you ask?

What came first, Gadhafi going after the rebels or the rebels protesting?

Protest against Gadhafi that didn't even demand separation from Lybia. Unlike Albanian terrorists we helped in Serbia using full force of NATO.

Seems to me, the US made peace with Libya just few years ago

They were at war before?

then BAM, NATO bombing Libya.

NATO, USA or UN? You seem to have the three mixed up.

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Imagine. Countries buying munitions from the United States. :rolleyes:

Imagine whole world (including terrorists) buying AK-47's and ammo from Communist China.

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I agree. Maybe we shouldn't have sent the fighters.

Maybe not... strike missions require a certain level of logistics that was found to be lacking for deployment of CF-188's to Afghanistan too....a war too far for them. So now, like C-17 procurements out of turn, the Americans will just poop 1300 "smart bombs" for Canada!

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Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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The war in Libya requires more smart bombs and Canada is doing its share, at a cost of 100,000 a piece. Gee, I wonder how many people Canada can kill with those?

Yes, dumb bombs are far cheaper and kill much more indiscriminately.

What came first, Gadhafi going after the rebels or the rebels protesting?

Good idea, we should kill protesters to.

Edited by Wilber

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Could be worse ,they could be dumb bombs.

Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.

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Good idea, we should kill protesters to.

We are killing protestors. That is why it has become a humanitarian crisis. UN/NATO bombs the civilian infrastructure (creating the problem) and then will put boots on the ground to secure the area (providing the solution to the problem created).

I am no fan of Qaddafi, but more and more, this is less about humanitarian aid to civilians as it is about oil and other natural resources.

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I am no fan of Qaddafi, but more and more, this is less about humanitarian aid to civilians as it is about oil and other natural resources.

Same leftist silly claim about Iraq.

Yet we all pay the WORLD prices. No one is getting any free oil from Iraq or anywhere.

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We are killing protestors. That is why it has become a humanitarian crisis. UN/NATO bombs the civilian infrastructure (creating the problem) and then will put boots on the ground to secure the area (providing the solution to the problem created).

Seems to me it is Mo who is bombing the infrastructure in Misurata.

I am no fan of Qaddafi, but more and more, this is less about humanitarian aid to civilians as it is about oil and other natural resources.

The oil was flowing just fine before those pesky protesters wanted to ditch a dictator and have a say in running their own country. Much better if we had just let Qaddafi crush them, right?

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Seems to me it is Mo who is bombing the infrastructure in Misurata.

Does that mean that the UN/NATO can bomb the same infrastructure? Does targeting Gadaffi's home while calling it a compound (killing one of his sons and a couple of his grandkids) mean that we are better than him?

I find it ironic that the ICC calls for Qadaffi's arrest while not calling the arrest of the aggressors in this new war. Libya was not a threat ... The ones who drummed up the inevitable invasion are idiots like Sarkozy, Obama and Cameron. Sure, throw Harper in there as well. War criminals are those who start wars. Gadaffi did not start this one. Just shows who the ICC really is and what they support. The ICC supports 'western' interests.

The oil was flowing just fine before those pesky protesters wanted to ditch a dictator and have a say in running their own country. Much better if we had just let Qaddafi crush them, right?

So you think it's a good idea to litter the place with depleted uranium rounds from A-10s like in Iraq? The whole reason Gadaffi is getting the heat is because he would not play the West's game. Again, I must ask .. why Libya and not Syria, or Bahrain or Yemen ..... What makes Libya different from all these other countries who have gone through or are currently going through the same things?

It's not about humanitarian aid people. It is about western 'interests' in Libya. Natural Resources, and a strategic foothold in Africa. Think about it.

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Take the same situation in Canada and Libya. Libya goes after the protesters and they a war and bombs. If protesters did the same against Harper, they get prisons cells.

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Well...we are having a special this month. For only an additional $1,000 per unit, we can paint the body of the munition with the colors of your favorite NHL team with logos. No need to go with that drab navy gray or army green. Show your team spirit! ;)

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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Does that mean that the UN/NATO can bomb the same infrastructure? Does targeting Gadaffi's home while calling it a compound (killing one of his sons and a couple of his grandkids) mean that we are better than him?

Yes it does. He could care less about killing the grandchildren of his own countrymen just to stay in power. We try and pick our targets, otherwise no need for smart bombs.

I find it ironic that the ICC calls for Qadaffi's arrest while not calling the arrest of the aggressors in this new war. Libya was not a threat ... The ones who drummed up the inevitable invasion are idiots like Sarkozy, Obama and Cameron. Sure, throw Harper in there as well. War criminals are those who start wars. Gadaffi did not start this one. Just shows who the ICC really is and what they support. The ICC supports 'western' interests.

We didn't start this war, we are acting in support of people who were initially trying to change their government by peaceful means. It was Qaddafi who started the killing yet you back him.

It's not about humanitarian aid people. It is about western 'interests' in Libya. Natural Resources, and a strategic foothold in Africa. Think about it.

You think about it. The oil was flowing nicely before this happened. Who knows what will happen if there is a regime change in Libya. The west needs this like a hole in the head.

One thing though, it will be nice to see Mo finally get his comeuppance for the terrorist activities he has backed and taken part in over the past few decades. He has a lot of western blood on his hands.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Well...we are having a special this month. For only an additional $1,000 per unit, we can paint the body of the munition with the colors of your favorite NHL team with logos. No need to go with that drab navy gray or army green. Show your team spirit! ;)

A thousand bucks, you must be kidding. We have a bunch of teenage graffiti artists who would do a great job for nothing more than the cost of paint.

"Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC

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Take the same situation in Canada and Libya. Libya goes after the protesters and they a war and bombs. If protesters did the same against Harper, they get prisons cells.

Uh, what does this even mean? I hope you are not comparing Canada's treatment of protesters with that of Libya's, because that would be rather silly. BTW, in your first post you wondered how many people these bombs would kill. They target various industry, utilities and strategic items and avoid loss of life above all. That is why they are 'smarter' than plain carpet bombing.

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A thousand bucks, you must be kidding. We have a bunch of teenage graffiti artists who would do a great job for nothing more than the cost of paint.

But it would not be a mil-spec paint job...might throw off the munition's CG balance!

Economics trumps Virtue. 

 

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So, what's the problem? Oh...wait...the bleeding heart NDP and the wishy-washy oh-so-politically-correct Liberals won't like it? Who the hell cares what they do or do not like?

I have captured the rare duct taped platypus.

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