Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I would argue that an individual in our society should not expect a free speech act that does not harm anyone to result in deaths. That there are mindless savages elsewhere around the world who may act like mindless savages should not enter into our considerations of what we should or should not do. We should not, must not, allow barbarians halfway around the world to stop us from acting as we otherwise would. The pastor could not predict the actions of fanatical Muslims, nor was he required to try to. I think we have enough imperical evidence to suggest that Pastor could reasonably predict the actions of fanatical Muslims... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 This wasn't policy, it was a nutbar poking a stick at a rottweiler. Unfortunately the dog attacked someone else. Islam = Rottweiler...I like that...lol. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I think we have enough imperical evidence to suggest that Pastor could reasonably predict the actions of fanatical Muslims... Yeaaaaaahhh....but...do we march to their drum or our own? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Yeaaaaaahhh....but...do we march to their drum or our own? Ours... But I have a suggestion.. Send the Good Reverend to Kandahar and make him perform his little trick there... Think of it as cutting down on the surplus idiot population?? Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Yeaaaaaahhh....but...do we march to their drum or our own? To add: seriously...buring Korans aside, is the next few hundred years going to be spent trying not to upset an intolerant bunch of hicks? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) To add: seriously...buring Korans aside, is the next few hundred years going to be spent trying not to upset an intolerant bunch of hicks? I hope not... Mississippi and Arkansas are quite enough,thank you... Edited April 5, 2011 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Bonam Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I think we have enough imperical evidence to suggest that Pastor could reasonably predict the actions of fanatical Muslims... No, I don't think he did. People frequently burn or otherwise destroy or deface Qurans and it goes without notice. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 I hope not... Mississippi and Arkansas are quite enough,thank you... Hey...I have 'em here in BC and I'm sure you do in Ontariariari-o. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 No, I don't think he did. People frequently burn or otherwise destroy or deface Qurans and it goes without notice. Then he's a clueless imbecile of the highest order... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Hey...I have 'em here in BC and I'm sure you do in Ontariariari-o. I live in a rural riding... I know all about the hilljacks... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Ours... But I have a suggestion.. Send the Good Reverend to Kandahar and make him perform his little trick there... Think of it as cutting down on the surplus idiot population?? Rev Zippy might dislike Islam...but I doubt he's murderous. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Bonam Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Then he's a clueless imbecile of the highest order... Of course, that goes without saying. But he is not responsible for any deaths, nor should any other individual be prevented from carrying out similar actions if he/she so chooses. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Rev Zippy might dislike Islam...but I doubt he's murderous. True...But I wonder if he's got the guts to stand by his convictions and pull that stunt in the place where he might actually have to deal with his actions?? I'm thinkin' ...no... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Of course, that goes without saying. But he is not responsible for any deaths, nor should any other individual be prevented from carrying out similar actions if he/she so chooses. Well,that's what I said yesterday... This guy has the IQ of a piece of furniture... But what does it say about the IQ of those half way across the world,who went completely nutso and started to shoot up the place? Nutjobs!!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
DogOnPorch Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 True...But I wonder if he's got the guts to stand by his convictions and pull that stunt in the place where he might actually have to deal with his actions?? I'm thinkin' ...no... Which brings us back to kicking Hell's Angel members motorcycles...and Rotties. OK...it's not a bright idea. But that's where YouTube videos come from, damnit. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest American Woman Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 True...But I wonder if he's got the guts to stand by his convictions and pull that stunt in the place where he might actually have to deal with his actions?? I'm thinkin' ...no... If he went over there and burned the Koran, then he would be provoking them. He chose to do it on his own property, half way around the world, where he is free to do so. I would argue whether or not he has the same "right" to do it over there. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Which brings us back to kicking Hell's Angel members motorcycles...and Rotties. OK...it's not a bright idea. But that's where YouTube videos come from, damnit. And Jerry Springer episodes... They should have an episode where Reverend Dilly Bar meets up with Islamofascists.. Like when they have toothless Klan goobers meeting up with Black Panther kooks... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest American Woman Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Oleg Bach, on 05 April 2011 - 12:57 PM, said: Good point - all was fine when he "spoke" about the burning - all turned to shit when he DID the burning. There is a differnce between free speech and free conduct.Thank you Oleg. Pretty basic really. In case it's not already known to you, we do have the freedom in the U.S. to burn a book. Nothing illegal there. Quote
Jack Weber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 If he went over there and burned the Koran, then he would be provoking them. He chose to do it on his own property, half way around the world, where he is free to do so. I would argue whether or not he has the same "right" to do it over there. He also has the right to be vilified for his abject stupidity here... And he'd be torn to shreds there...And his dismembered body parts paraded through the streets... He should thank his lucky stars he has the protections he has here...Sadly,those protections must work for complete idiots like Pastor Dumb Dumb for them to work for all of us... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Guest American Woman Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) He also has the right to be vilified for his abject stupidity here... He certainly does. Vilify away. That doesn't make him responsible, which is the only point I've been arguing. And he'd be torn to shreds there...And his dismembered body parts paraded through the streets...He should thank his lucky stars he has the protections he has here...Sadly,those protections must work for complete idiots like Pastor Dumb Dumb for them to work for all of us... I'm sure he does thank his lucky stars that he lives in the U.S. rather than "there." Edited April 5, 2011 by American Woman Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 If he went over there and burned the Koran, then he would be provoking them. He chose to do it on his own property, half way around the world, where he is free to do so. I would argue whether or not he has the same "right" to do it over there. Hard to say...the approved method of Qu'ran disposal is by burning...maybe it has to be supervised by an Imam or local fire department. The distinct context is "Burn a Qu'ran Day" to provoke, and it would probably be just as exciting in Kabul. I can't wait for "Muhammad Eats Pork Day"! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Wilber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) In case it's not already known to you, we do have the freedom in the U.S. to burn a book. Nothing illegal there. Who gives a crap, the people who were killed weren't in the US. Do you really think the rest of the world revolves around your rights and what you think is important? Edited April 5, 2011 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 Islam = Rottweiler...I like that...lol. Islam and Red neck America both = Rottweiler. It's only the red neck Islamics that get stirred up - just like their American counter parts. I don't see clever classy Islamics or Americans marching off to kill each other. BUT - the high and clever Islamics and American elite - know how to turn the political tide along with a tidy profit - by stirring up the emotions of brutes whether they be Islamic ruffians or western yahhos. Quote
Wilber Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 To add: seriously...buring Korans aside, is the next few hundred years going to be spent trying not to upset an intolerant bunch of hicks? No but going out of your way to upset them is just dumb and irresponsible. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Oleg Bach Posted April 5, 2011 Report Posted April 5, 2011 No but going out of your way to upset them is just dumb and irresponsible. Now you guys are getting it...I burned an old dictionary once....It was about a hundred years in age...I had overly fixated on the original meanings of words....not that this applys - I burned a weegee board as a kid hoping to hear the demons scream - did not happen - Burning a bible - or a Tora could be fun...but is one book no matter how seemingly sacred worth one human life - I would say NOT - Those that killed because of the destruction of a book - are not the sharpest pencils in the box. Quote
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