jazzer Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 It must feel odd being middle class. I am disabled, in the lower middle class and feel great. I make around $20,000.00 a year. If you make anywhere near $200,00.00 a year then you are wealthy to me...but I won't hold that against you. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The joy that one can measure's one financial success by the dollar value in one's pocketbook is priceless. Enjoy. No one come on MLW to convince someone else of one's views. Would it be possible for you to translate this into English? Quote
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) The joy that one can measure's one financial success by the dollar value in one's pocketbook is priceless. Enjoy. ***** Edited October 15, 2015 by waldo Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Would it be possible for you to translate this into English? Easy. I'm a horrible person for making decent coin. I should go and off myself. Money is horrible. I should give it all away. In fact, if I commit suicide, you should wish that upon me. I've committed the worse crime of all. Making $. Sorry. Edited October 15, 2015 by angrypenguin Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
On Guard for Thee Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Easy. I'm a horrible person for making decent coin. I should go and off myself. Money is horrible. I should give it all away. In fact, if I commit suicide, you should wish that upon me. I've committed the worse crime of all. Making $. Sorry. Making decent coin never gave me that notion. Nor did it ever make me want to try to impress anyone else. I guess balance is a good thing. Quote
angrypenguin Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Making decent coin never gave me that notion. Nor did it ever make me want to try to impress anyone else. I guess balance is a good thing. Yep I'm a horrible person. Quote My views are my own and not those of my employer.
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yep I'm a horrible person. the last 4 pages of this thread have nothing to do with "federal election polls"... was this your intent? Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 the last 4 pages of this thread have nothing to do with "federal election polls"... was this your intent? Hopefully the thread can get back on track tomorrow when Nanos' next poll is published. I now regret my part in driving this thread into utter irrelevancy. Quote
BC_chick Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Easy. I'm a horrible person for making decent coin. I should go and off myself. Money is horrible. I should give it all away. In fact, if I commit suicide, you should wish that upon me. I've committed the worse crime of all. Making $. Sorry. Did you learn your money-making skills in the school you attended where Justin Trudeau taught and name-dropped his dad? That seemed like a... magical place. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Canada_First Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Did you learn your money-making skills in the school you attended where Justin Trudeau taught and name-dropped his dad? That seemed like a... magical place. Why is it hard to believe that some who come here have been sucessful in professional life? Do you think that only mal adjusted loners would frequent such a forum? Charles Anthony is using his real name. He is a dentist in Ottawa and therefore obviously wealthy. You think he's the only one here who has found personal and professional success? Quote
Exegesisme Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) My Est. of new distribution of seats on poll numbers Oct. 13. Con% NDP% Lib% Green% Bloc% Nanos Poll numbers 29.2 24.5 36.1 4.3 5.2 Con NDP Lib Green Bloc Seats 338 My EST 87+-9 59+-7 185+-20 2+-1 5+-3 I found first liberal would win. Now I guess liberal would win the majority on poll numbers Oct. 12. The est. of new distribution of seats on poll numbers Oct. 12. Con% NDP% Lib% Green% Bloc% Poll number 28.9 24.3 35.7 4.8 5.7 Con NDP Lib Green Bloc seats ES (338) 79 63 182 4 10 The Estimation of Seats on Poll Numbers, Sept. 30 (the 2nd version) By Exegesisme The Estimation of Seats of Each Party on the Poll Numbers of Sept. 30 Con% NDP% Lib% Green% Bloc% national 32.1 26.3 32.2 4.4 4.6 ON (121) 34 21 40 5 QU (78) 20 34 25 1 19 PR (62) 51 21 24 4 BC (42) 30 32 30 8 AT (32) 19 25 49 6 YNN (3) Con NDP Lib Green Bloc ES (338) 112 81 129 5 8 Edited October 15, 2015 by Exegesisme Quote
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 most recent Nanos overnight (Oct 14th) polling - Liberal Party of Canada with 7.7% lead over CPC Quote
Shady Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 most recent Nanos overnight (Oct 14th) polling - Liberal Party of Canada with 7.7% lead over CPC Yeah, so my assertion of a possible majority government was fairly accurate eh? Apology accepted. Quote
waldo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, so my assertion of a possible majority government was fairly accurate eh? Apology accepted. I believe I said seat projections didn't place any party in a majority position... that a shift of 40-50 seats would be required for that... and no pollsters or 'experts' were suggesting one was even remotely a consideration. Uhhh... you realize polling percentages aren't seat projections, right? Are you... projecting... a Liberal majority? If you are, you're one of few 'experts' doing so... Quote
Smallc Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I have actually started to see talk of a potential majority in the articles that I've been reading. I don't think we're there yet though. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I have actually started to see talk of a potential majority in the articles that I've been reading. I don't think we're there yet though. Let's put it this way. If the Liberals continue to make the incremental gains they've made over the last week, a majority may be obtainable. We still have four days of campaigning. One thing's for certain, the idea that the Tories can hold on to even a plurality is evaporating quickly. It's hard to see how they're going to be able to reverse what is now clearly not just an NDP decline, but a Tory decline as well. Loss of vote efficiency is bad enough, but now I think there's indication of bleed of Tory votes. I wonder if that's happening because a lot of Tory voters have accepted a Liberal government, but may not want the NDP in a position to wag the dog. A sort of Anybody But Mulcair phenomenon. Quote
blueblood Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Let's put it this way. If the Liberals continue to make the incremental gains they've made over the last week, a majority may be obtainable. We still have four days of campaigning. One thing's for certain, the idea that the Tories can hold on to even a plurality is evaporating quickly. It's hard to see how they're going to be able to reverse what is now clearly not just an NDP decline, but a Tory decline as well. Loss of vote efficiency is bad enough, but now I think there's indication of bleed of Tory votes. I wonder if that's happening because a lot of Tory voters have accepted a Liberal government, but may not want the NDP in a position to wag the dog. A sort of Anybody But Mulcair phenomenon. Your also forgetting to mention that it is still putting the BQ to irrelevancy. Quebecers are starting to see its better to be on the winning team rather than on some protest party with hopes of holding up parliament in exchange for demands. Which is good for national unity as now both liberals and tories know to take care if the regions if they want majority govts. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Your also forgetting to mention that it is still putting the BQ to irrelevancy. Quebecers are starting to see its better to be on the winning team rather than on some protest party with hopes of holding up parliament in exchange for demands. Which is good for national unity as now both liberals and tories know to take care if the regions if they want majority govts. I cannot be sad that the NDP are on the decline. They were too keen, as keen as Mulroney, to play dice with the separatists. The whole idea of shredding the Clarity Act honestly scared the ---- out of me, because it seems to me to be like waving a red flag in front of a raging bull. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, so my assertion of a possible majority government was fairly accurate eh? Apology accepted. Still very much unlikely. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Still very much unlikely. But no longer out of the realm of possibility. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I have actually started to see talk of a potential majority in the articles that I've been reading. I don't think we're there yet though.I agree. The Liberal vote is not efficient enough to capture the ridings it would need to get a majority at 39% of the vote. And in any case, I highly doubt on election day that they will hit 39% of the vote anyway. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, so my assertion of a possible majority government was fairly accurate eh? Apology accepted. A Liberal minority is what I predicted. It seems that the Cons under Harper have pissed off enough people that it is showing in the polls. I am also going to say the notion of 'strategic voting' is a waste of f'n time, and a waste of your democratic right to vote. If you believe in the Cons, then vote Cons. Likewise for any other party. Don't vote for the Liberals just because you are tired of the Conservatives, vote for the Liberals because you think they have the best platform. Now I have been told that if I vote Green I am wasting my vote, because they do not stand a chance. This is a dangerous mentality because we are then stuck with the normal 3. Do you really want change? It starts with you. The Pot debate and the Liberals stance on legalizing it is inciting to voters, but overall it's not the sole thing to vote on. The Liberals are not ready to lead with Justin Trudeau at the lead. Mulcair is better suited for the position of PM. But even then I hesitate. And if people think the pot legalization will happen over night, or in a short time is 100% delusional. It won't happen under Trudeau's government. If it does, I will welcome it, but I don't have much faith that it will happen. All parties seem to have their fair share of corruption/scandal baggage in which the population seems to have forgotten things like Adscam and the recent expenses scandal. I have to laugh and cry at the same time when these 'leaders' talk about change. They keep talking about it, but nothing really happens. Why? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 But no longer out of the realm of possibility.Nothing is ever out of the realm of possibility, unless a party doesn't run enough candidates to form a majority then a majority is possible. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) To all the majority Liberal talk the negative impact of campaign co-chair Daniel Gagnier's resignation must be factored in. The stench of 'pigs at the trough' is now in the air. Real change apparently means replacement pigs at the trough and has absolutely nothing to do with the public interest. Edited October 15, 2015 by Vancouver King Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I agree. The Liberal vote is not efficient enough to capture the ridings it would need to get a majority at 39% of the vote. And in any case, I highly doubt on election day that they will hit 39% of the vote anyway. A few days ago you were still forecasting a Tory minority, so already we've seen a complete role reversal. While I agree that a Liberal majority is not likely, I think it's not impossible. I think there's still the potential for further NDP declines, and even the Tory vote seems to be in trouble. Quote
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