Michael Hardner Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 No this thread is about how you hate Muslims and Islam in general. In FACT many of these threads about the same topic you started, prove that. You don't want to debate, you just want a venue to rant. At least be honest with yourself, if you can't then, you really are hopeless. This is what I have said. These threads are supposed to be about discussion, and presenting new topics to debate about not just making general statements about Muslims and challenging people to respond over and over. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 This is what I have said. These threads are supposed to be about discussion, and presenting new topics to debate about not just making general statements about Muslims and challenging people to respond over and over. I make these threads to educate people on reality. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Michael Hardner Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 I make these threads to educate people on reality. Educators provide facts not opinions. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Shwa Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 What percentage of Muslims would say are Radical? Does it really matter given that, The overwhelming proof given by the sum total of the worldwide population of peaceful Muslim practioners deems that "violence in the name of Allah" is an abberation or certainly not more of a common practice derived from the whole than any other major religious group. Which suggests that the sum total of radicals of other major religious groups ought to be more of a concern to you or at least allow you to derive an argument with substance. Which you haven't so far. And I am under the impression you are unable to. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 Educators provide facts not opinions. Go re read my first post it's full of facts. Posters chose to ignore them and attack my motive, that's called strawman. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Does it really matter given that, The overwhelming proof given by the sum total of the worldwide population of peaceful Muslim practioners deems that "violence in the name of Allah" is an abberation or certainly not more of a common practice derived from the whole than any other major religious group. Which suggests that the sum total of radicals of other major religious groups ought to be more of a concern to you or at least allow you to derive an argument with substance. Which you haven't so far. And I am under the impression you are unable to. What the non-violent majority does isn't the focus. At its height in 1944, the Gestapo had a staff of only 30,000 people...5,000 of which were actual 'agents' in the field. Most Germans during WW2 never fired a shot in anger. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Go re read my first post it's full of facts. Posters chose to ignore them and attack my motive, that's called strawman. Your first post is full of something....but it ain't facts... We see beheading happening more and more in the west. citation for this fact please. Edited March 11, 2011 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Michael Hardner Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 What the non-violent majority does isn't the focus. At its height in 1944, the Gestapo had a staff of only 30,000 people...5,000 of which were actual 'agents' in the field. Most Germans during WW2 never fired a shot in anger. Exactly. And how many people do you hear saying that Germans have a propensity for violence, or that all Germans should be kept away because of what happened in WW II ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Exactly. And how many people do you hear saying that Germans have a propensity for violence, or that all Germans should be kept away because of what happened in WW II ? We bombed the living crap out of ALL Germans. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Exactly. And how many people do you hear saying that Germans have a propensity for violence, or that all Germans should be kept away because of what happened in WW II ? ...ask the French! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 ...ask the French! Or the Poles...or the Norwegians...or the Dutch...or... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) Your first post is full of something....but it ain't facts... Great please take my points one by one and prove them wrong. They are taken directly from the Koran which was written by Mohammad.Muslims aspire to be like Mohammad. They view Him as the perfect man. Edited March 11, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Great please take my points one by one and prove them wrong. They are taken directly from the Koran which was written by Mohammad. Muslims aspire to be like Mohammad. They view Him as the perfect man. If you are unable to back up your points, there are proven wrong. Feel free to correct this. We see beheading happening more and more in the west. Cite please Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) If you are unable to back up your points, there are proven wrong. They are taken from the Koran. You want to provide quotes from the Koran and the Hidith? I can if you'd like. I thought it was common knowledge. If so many people are so convinced that Islam is a religion of peace then surely they've read the Koran and Hidith to know for sure. Cite please What do you want a cite for? I live in the west and I've never seen a beheading before Daniel Pearl's beheading. There were many more after that. Maybe you have but I haven't. Maybe I should've said "I'm" seeing more beheadings. I didn't know you've seen so many beheadings Dancer. Edited March 11, 2011 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Shwa Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 What the non-violent majority does isn't the focus. At its height in 1944, the Gestapo had a staff of only 30,000 people...5,000 of which were actual 'agents' in the field. Most Germans during WW2 never fired a shot in anger. Good, but irrelevant, post: Is violence in the name of Allah really the work of separate dissidents removed from the religion as a whole or is it a central part? Quote
Shwa Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Great please take my points one by one and prove them wrong. They are taken directly from the Koran which was written by Mohammad. I already did that. Why are you asking another to do the same? Besides, you can't even prove that Mohammad wrote the Koran. Muslims aspire to be like Mohammad. They view Him as the perfect man. Cite please. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 What do you want a cite for? A cite to back up your statement. You said. We see beheading happening more and more in the west. In Saudi Arabia they behead people all the time because Mohammad did the same thing. How many beheadings have there been in the west....you say they happen all the time in SA...how many in the west and how many is more and more? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Good, but irrelevant, post: Irrelevant to you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 Besides, you can't even prove that Mohammad wrote the Koran. This is the foundation of the Muslim religion. I don't need to prove who wrote the Koran. I have to rpove what Radical Muslims believe. You guys are totally missing the point. You're making me, M.Canada, the topic instead of talking about this thread. That is called a strawman. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Mr.Canada Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Posted March 11, 2011 How many beheadings have there been in the west....you say they happen all the time in SA...how many in the west and how many is more and more? Yes, were seeing it in the west on TV. People who live in the west see beheadings on TV .. Maybe I should've worded it differently. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Yes, were seeing it in the west on TV. People who live in the west see beheadings on TV .. Maybe I should've worded it differently. Maybe...so are you saying then there are more beheadings or we are simply more aware of that particular form of execution? Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Scotty Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 All holy books are works of fiction. Even the Christian bible. Whether you think it's fiction is really not relevant to the discussion. The Muslim world certainly doesn't think it's fiction. In fact, the Muslim world embraces the words of the Koran wholeheartedly. The Koran is considered, by Muslim authorities, to be the literal word of God, and a guide for the behaviour of all Muslims. I don't claim to be an expert on it, but I've read enough, and seen enough video of young Muslim boys and men sitting, cross-legged on the floor, heads bobbing up and down as they chant the words of the Koran, over an over, for hours after hours to realize what kind of indoctrination they're getting. Tell them the Koran is a work of fiction. For that matter, go to some Muslim countries and try to tell anyone its a work of fiction. You will be arrested, and in some places, sentenced to death for such words. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
Scotty Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 This thread is about how Radical Muslims interpret their Holy Book. All Muslims, so far as I know, interpret the Koran as the literal word of God. To even question this is a crime in many Muslim states. Quote It is an inverted moral calculus that tries to persuade the world to demonize one state that tries its civilized best to abide in a difficult time and place, and rides merrily by the examples and practices of dozens of states and leaderships that drop into brutality every day without a twinge of regret or a whisper of condemnation. - Rex Murphy
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2011 Report Posted March 11, 2011 Says you. Meh...the plane could be crashing with gun toting terrorists screaming Allahu Akbar all around you and you'd still go... Probably pilot error. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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