bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Ah, it's so sweet that our little American tantrum-thrower has his shivery liitle Canadian sycophant. Hopefully Corey and Trevor didn't get too stoned to Support the Troops. ...sweeter still to be followed by the usual sexual insecurities from our person without a country. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bloodyminded Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 ...sweeter still to be followed by the usual sexual insecurities from our person without a country. Any sexual insecurities here are evidenced only by your quisling and his bromance with you. I have nothing to say about it, as I did not reference sexuality in the first place. Presumably--yet again--you have trouble understanding adjectives. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Any sexual insecurities here are evidenced only by your quisling and his bromance with you. I have nothing to say about it, as I did not reference sexuality in the first place. Presumably--yet again--you have trouble understanding adjectives. You have already made your insecure mark in this regard...for reasons only you understand. And that's OK. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bloodyminded Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 You have already made your insecure mark in this regard...for reasons only you understand. And that's OK. Nothing to add, eh? Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 Nothing to add, eh? No...this road has already been traveled many times. Seek true love elsewhere. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bloodyminded Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 No...this road has already been traveled many times. Seek true love elsewhere. Don't forget to Support the Troops. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
DogOnPorch Posted March 5, 2011 Report Posted March 5, 2011 No...this road has already been traveled many times. Seek true love elsewhere. Looking for a date, is he? Is that why I feel like I need a shower everytime I this poster replies? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Looking for a date, is he? Please. You're the one having the love-fest with your American superior. I take it you smarmy, bigoted little anti-semites don't enjoy being exposed. Is that why I feel like I need a shower everytime I this poster replies? It's good you phrased these as questions. You won't know the answer until your little hero tells you what you should think. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
GostHacked Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 (edited) Looking for a date, is he? Is that why I feel like I need a shower everytime I this poster replies? The shower won't help, that thing you smell is coming from within you. Crap, I thought I was responding to BC. Oh well. Edited March 6, 2011 by GostHacked Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Hey you two...get a room! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bloodyminded Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Hey you two...get a room! That's rich, coming from the servile "bottom" to his Greatest American Hero's "top"! Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2011 Report Posted March 6, 2011 Oh, rip the shirt. How cliche! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Of course it did, that's the whole point. WMD's were used to sell it even though a lot of people at the top knew the claim was questionable at best. Just another lesson that governments are quite willing to put their own agendas before honesty. But hey this is what people call 'Alex Jones nutter case territory' .. regardless of him being right all along. They are even willing to put them before their own troops and citizens. A complete shame. Quote
olpfan1 Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 I don't think Powell knew at all what he was saying was fabricated by an Iraqi intelligence source. If he had known, I don't think he would have ever given the speech. But at least this finally puts to an end the ridiculous notion that George Bush lied. George Bush certainly didn't have anything to do with the CIA director telling him it's "a slam dunk.". And George Bush also didn't have anything to do with this intelligence source providing faulty information. That was obvious... GWB couldn't even get a short quote right let alone be a part of a conspiracy this big unless he's goofy and air headed on purpose to throw everyone off kind of like how Clark Kent is a bumbling reporter, knocking into things..but I highly doubt that as well Quote
GostHacked Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 That was obvious... GWB couldn't even get a short quote right let alone be a part of a conspiracy this big unless he's goofy and air headed on purpose to throw everyone off kind of like how Clark Kent is a bumbling reporter, knocking into things..but I highly doubt that as well Bush, like Obama is the front man. The face. The real dirty work is done by the VP. Cheney proved that, Biden, I am not sure about.... It's part of the psychology game. The establishemt makes the top guy look like a buffon so the masses think that they leadership is too stupid to actually pull anything like this off. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 13, 2012 Author Report Posted February 13, 2012 Bush, like Obama is the front man. The face. The real dirty work is done by the VP. Cheney proved that, Biden, I am not sure about.... Cheney was so powerful because Bush Jr was incompetent in knowledge of how everything worked, so Bush had to rely so much on Cheney because he knew the game. Obama doesn't have to rely on Biden because he has some understanding of how the system & the world works. If someone like Palin got in it would be a similar situation as Bush/Cheney. I don't see any conspiracy. The people who pull the strings are the ones who have power, and a lot of power rests in lobby/interest groups who pour the $$$ into the parties and campaigns or otherwise lobby the gov. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GostHacked Posted February 13, 2012 Report Posted February 13, 2012 Cheney was so powerful because Bush Jr was incompetent in knowledge of how everything worked, so Bush had to rely so much on Cheney because he knew the game. Obama doesn't have to rely on Biden because he has some understanding of how the system & the world works. Obama is nothing more than another puppet. He wanted to close Gitmo .. then finds out he can't. He wants open government, but gets a medal in a private ceremony. He wants to fix the economy, now the USA is in the worst shape of it's entire existance. As I said before , policy rules all. Obama is there to make sure his handlers' policy is carried out. If someone like Palin got in it would be a similar situation as Bush/Cheney. I don't see any conspiracy. The people who pull the strings are the ones who have power, and a lot of power rests in lobby/interest groups who pour the $$$ into the parties and campaigns or otherwise lobby the gov. I agree on this. And that always tells me that the leaders are bought and paid for. And guess who is ultimately going to suffer for it?! Anyone who can think for themselves knew the rhetoric to the Iraq war was bunk .. and now the same is happening for Iran. Fool me once .. you can't get fooled again ...... Quote
GostHacked Posted April 3, 2012 Report Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) Moonlight Graham. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html He tries to defend his actions: "My main purpose was to topple the tyrant in Iraq because the longer this dictator remains in power, the more the Iraqi people will suffer from this regime's oppression."The chemical engineer claimed to have overseen the building of a mobile biological laboratory when he sought political asylum in Germany in 1999. His lies were presented as "facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence" by Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, when making the case for war at the UN Security Council in February 2003. I found this article today on another site, and reminded me of the one you posted in your OP. Just horrible how people were lead to believe the lies that lead to Iraqi civilian deaths, and US servicemen deaths. Both could have been avoided. This one is dated April 2 2012, your article was back in Feb 15 2011. Edited April 3, 2012 by GostHacked Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Posted April 3, 2012 Moonlight Graham. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/man-whose-wmd-lies-led-to-100000-deaths-confesses-all-7606236.html I found this article today on another site, and reminded me of the one you posted in your OP. Just horrible how people were lead to believe the lies that lead to Iraqi civilian deaths, and US servicemen deaths. Both could have been avoided. This one is dated April 2 2012, your article was back in Feb 15 2011. Read a similar article about this on another news site. Those hundreds of thousands of people are dead, nothing can reverse that. But again what strikes me is what has been done in the US and the international community to ensure something like this can never happen again? Why hasn't anyone been held accountable? Democrats were/are obviously too much of a bunch of wimpy sellouts worried about votes to do anything, and for whatever reason the American people didn't give a shazbot. AW will go on about Chretien etc., and while a valid point on another question, it doesn't answer the above question. Why has nothing been done? Americans are apathetic to one of the greatest injustices in US history. What Canada has/hasn't done is irrelevant. It's a bit of a strawman and an ad hominem. My or others being non-American has no bearing on the legitimacy of the question: why hasn't anything been done? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted April 3, 2012 Report Posted April 3, 2012 Why hasn't anyone been held accountable? Somebody has. His name was Saddam Hussein. He was the person most responsible. Quote
GostHacked Posted April 3, 2012 Report Posted April 3, 2012 Read a similar article about this on another news site. Those hundreds of thousands of people are dead, nothing can reverse that. But again what strikes me is what has been done in the US and the international community to ensure something like this can never happen again? Why hasn't anyone been held accountable? Democrats were/are obviously too much of a bunch of wimpy sellouts worried about votes to do anything, and for whatever reason the American people didn't give a shazbot. No they don't. It's part of the media propaganda that has made people to believe that the government is being truthful. When we have clear evidence that that was not the case. The propaganda tactic of a sentence in which the first half contradicts the second half, and in most peoples minds there is no contradiction. It baffles me, even with many posters here that is the case. AW will go on about Chretien etc., and while a valid point on another question, it doesn't answer the above question. Why has nothing been done? Americans are apathetic to one of the greatest injustices in US history. What Canada has/hasn't done is irrelevant. It's a bit of a strawman and an ad hominem. My or others being non-American has no bearing on the legitimacy of the question: why hasn't anything been done? Agreed, even when the Canadians on this board say 'yes lock Chretien up for war crimes' .. posters like AW don't pay it any attention, thinking we are simply going after the USA and classify us as anti-USA. It's not about that. People are missing the bigger picture here. And that is the propaganda run up to the Iraq war was 100% fabricated by the people who wanted to go to war with Iraq. That again reminds me of the documentary 'Why We Fight', interviews done with many high former Pentagon officials. It's worth a watch, but since it will shatter many's world views here, it will be ignored. In the end most of the posters here don't want to do anything about it. They don't want to see the ugly truth. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Posted April 3, 2012 ....AW will go on about Chretien etc., and while a valid point on another question, it doesn't answer the above question. Why has nothing been done? Americans are apathetic to one of the greatest injustices in US history. What Canada has/hasn't done is irrelevant. It's a bit of a strawman and an ad hominem. My or others being non-American has no bearing on the legitimacy of the question: why hasn't anything been done? That would be moi pointing to Chretien and Martin, and for a very good and related reason that ultimately answers your question about why hasn't anything been done. Americans don't act on the "injustices" for the very same reason Canadians don't act on them. That's why it is not a strawman argument. In fact, Canada is an actual signatory to the ICC treaty, while the USA is not. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Posted April 4, 2012 Somebody has. His name was Saddam Hussein. He was the person most responsible. That's a different issue. Obviously I'd assume most people are happy to see him get his justice, whatever the Iraqi people felt that was. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
cybercoma Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Somebody has. His name was Saddam Hussein. He was the person most responsible. Most responsible for not having WMDs. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted April 4, 2012 Report Posted April 4, 2012 Most responsible for not having WMDs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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