Yukon Jack Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Man, You sure don't know me... You are right, I only know you by what I gleaned from your posts. But when you decided to pass judgment on a best seller you never bothered to read and formed your opinion about it (and on its author - although you probably also think that it was ghost-written for him) only on some undefined and undeclared fountain of wisdom, you left me very little choice but to arrive at the conclusion that I arrived at. If I am wrong, prove me wrong. Quote
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 You are right, I only know you by what I gleaned from your posts. But when you decided to pass judgment on a best seller you never bothered to read and formed your opinion about it (and on its author - although you probably also think that it was ghost-written for him) only on some undefined and undeclared fountain of wisdom, you left me very little choice but to arrive at the conclusion that I arrived at. If I am wrong, prove me wrong. Let me get this straight... You came to your conclusion about me from reading a couple of my posts (out of hundreds)... Yet you say I shouldn't come to my conclusion about someone's book based on actively following the man (G.W. Bush) from the time he first began running for the Republican nomination and spending 6 years (2000-2006) on the Hannity Forums, WRITING numerous articles for major publications myself about the Bush admin. and events pertaining to said Bush admin., and now I have to PROVE to you whether YOU are wrong? Somehow I don't think so... Why don't YOU prove to me that it's a book worth reading? More importantly, that what's in it is factual, which seems to be the only contentious issue in the first place... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Then I must be special! Awww, of course you are, ain't that many Bush-Cheney loving OLD United Stateser trolls on this forum... You're my kind of people don't you know... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Shady Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Let me get this straight... You came to your conclusion about me from reading a couple of my posts (out of hundreds) You've been a member for 17 days and you're up over 500 posts? Do you have a life? Quote
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 You've been a member for 17 days and you're up over 500 posts? Do you have a life? Absolutely, a darn good one at that... You? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
Shady Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Absolutely, a darn good one at that Must be a great one. Quote
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Must be a great one. Obviously a hell of a lot better than yours... It don't take no TIME at all on here, don't you know... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
WIP Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Here's where bush/cheney's getting is upside down view on reality: I'm surprised Billy Joel didn't sue the asses off these clowns for stealing "We Didn't Start The Fire" as the foundation for this song. The only nuance added is a horrible nya nya nya nya nya lead guitar....has to be heard to be believed! If not, check out these wonderful, insightful lyrics: Freedom in Afghanistan, say goodbye Taliban Free elections in Iraq, Saddam Hussein locked up Osamas staying underground, Al Qaida now is finding out America wont turn and run once the fighting has begun Libya turns over nukes, Lebanese want freedom, too Syria is forced to leave, dont you know that all this means Chorus Bush was right! Bush was right! Bush was right! Yeah, good thing Bush took care of that Taliban....and everything's sweetness and light in Iraq. Quote Anybody who believers exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a madman or an economist. -- Kenneth Boulding, 1973
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Posted February 16, 2011 ...Yeah, good thing Bush took care of that Taliban....and everything's sweetness and light in Iraq. Now here we have an example of an obvious contradiction...please try to make up your mind when it comes to what you want "your" American presidents to do....and not do. Maybe we need a suggestion box in the Oval Office? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Now here we have an example of an obvious contradiction...please try to make up your mind when it comes to what you want "your" American presidents to do....and not do. Maybe we need a suggestion box in the Oval Office? Naaa, It'd be better to "overwhelm" the post office in Crawford Tx. with some "suggestions" about where Bush should go on his next vacation... I'm pretty sure it'd be a much "hotter" place than anywhere in Texas... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
eyeball Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Sure, but what's your point? I think the point is that shrugging off the history of US support for these dictators and effectively saying 'so what' only underscores just how grotesque and perverted and damaging that support has been. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 I think the point is that shrugging off the history of US support for these dictators and effectively saying 'so what' only underscores just how grotesque and perverted and damaging that support has been. And your suggestion as to an alternative approach would be? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
eyeball Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 And your suggestion as to an alternative approach would be? Stop pretending the support of so many dictators for so long has been worth the effort. Stop celebrating it as if it were an achievement we can be proud of. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Posted February 16, 2011 Stop pretending the support of so many dictators for so long has been worth the effort. Stop celebrating it as if it were an achievement we can be proud of. Who's pretending? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Stop pretending the support of so many dictators for so long has been worth the effort. Stop celebrating it as if it were an achievement we can be proud of. I didn't ask about results, I asked you what you would do different given the same circumstances, what approach to "dictators" in power would YOU take? Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 I didn't ask about results, I asked you what you would do different given the same circumstances, what approach to "dictators" in power would YOU take? What I find funny is that if something worse arises from this revolt in terms of 'dictators' the screaming meemees will be up in arms as to why the US didn't do more to save the likes of Hosni. Damned if they do...damned if they don't. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 What I find funny is that if something worse arises from this revolt in terms of 'dictators' the screaming meemees will be up in arms as to why the US didn't do more to save the likes of Hosni. Damned if they do...damned if they don't. Awww, hell, when it comes to United Statesers (you'll catch up) they're just plain damned from the get-go... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Posted February 16, 2011 What I find funny is that if something worse arises from this revolt in terms of 'dictators' the screaming meemees will be up in arms as to why the US didn't do more to save the likes of Hosni. Damned if they do...damned if they don't. You got it 'Bro...so may as well do it our way. ...Well it's alright now, I've learned my lesson well, you can't please everyone, so you have to please yourself. - Ricky Nelson Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
GostHacked Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 American dollars are paying for a lot of things around the world. The so called "west" exported and continues to export "odious" things in the pursuit of economic and geopolitical interests. And it was far more interesting during the Cold War. The Saudis are harmless compared to that. So when can we expect the next 9/11? Quote
Jonsa Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 The US has a long history of supporting dictators and other nasty type regimes. Of sticking their fingers in other people's pie to ensure that they get their slice. And the fact is, this strategy help them win the cold war. It solidified their position as the worlds greatest superpower both economically and militarily. And the rest of the world should be damn glad it was the Americans and not the Soviets that won that one. I don't think anyone would dispute that support for dictators by the world's beacon of liberty and democracy is anything but hypocritical. But BIG DEAL. I hate American support for the Saudis. I didn't have a problem with support for Mubarek or Israel. Either way, there are sound military, economic and diplomatic reasons for supporting regimes antithetical to american ideals. That is realpolitik. Quote
GWiz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 You got it 'Bro...so may as well do it our way. ...Well it's alright now, I've learned my lesson well, you can't please everyone, so you have to please yourself. - Ricky Nelson WOW! One of my all TIME favorite songs by one of my all TIME favorite singers! NICE BC! Appropriate use too... Quote There are none so blind, deaf and dumb as those that fail to recognize, understand, and promote TRUTH...- GWiz
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Posted February 16, 2011 ....I don't think anyone would dispute that support for dictators by the world's beacon of liberty and democracy is anything but hypocritical. But BIG DEAL. Spot on....America even supported Joseph Stalin for a spell! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Awww, hell, when it comes to United Statesers (you'll catch up) they're just plain damned from the get-go... Far from U to ed-u-mu-cate me re: Americans. My wife, although born in yee olde Newfie Land grew up in (the great state of) Minnesota as well as later on...Alaska. My own family knows no NA borders as we're spread across this here land(s) from New York to British Columbia. We've been here long time...$5 Charlie. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 Spot on....America even supported Joseph Stalin for a spell! And Hitler. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2011 Report Posted February 16, 2011 You got it 'Bro...so may as well do it our way. ...Well it's alright now, I've learned my lesson well, you can't please everyone, so you have to please yourself. - Ricky Nelson Heck...I recall the Canadian flag used to have a Union Jack on it. Same dumb-ass sh*t you see here changed that, too... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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