U.S. Supreme Court confers on Obama eligibility

[scribblet]

I thought this was all settled but it appears not, maybe this will put it to rest once and for all.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=232073

WASHINGTON – Is this the case that will break the presidential eligibility question wide open?

The Supreme Court conferred today on whether arguments should be heard on the merits of Kerchner v. Obama, a case challenging whether President Barack Obama is qualified to serve as president because he may not be a "natural-born citizen" as required by Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

Unlike other eligibility cases that have reached the Supreme Court, Kerchner vs. Obama focuses on the "Vattel theory," which argues that the writers of the Constitution believed the term "natural-born citizen" to mean a person born in the United States to parents who were both American citizens.

"This case is unprecedented," said Mario Apuzzo, the attorney bringing the suit. "I believe we presented an ironclad case. We've shown standing, and we've shown the importance of the issue for the Supreme Court. There's nothing standing in their way to grant us a writ of certiorari."

If the Supreme Court decides to grant the "writ of certiorari," it may direct a federal trial court in New Jersey to hear the merits of the case, or it may choose to hear the merits itself. The court's decision on the writ could be announced as early as Wednesday.

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[Topaz]

So IF he's not, then the VP is President until an election?

[TimG]

So IF he's not, then the VP is President until an election?

Zero chance of that happening. They found a possible technicality with the interpretation of the "natural born citizen". The court realized it needed to clarify that and it will clarify it in a way that keeps Obama in office.

[GostHacked]

So if Obama is NOT `natural`, then there is nothing stopping Ahnold from getting into the whitehouse, regardless of what reservations Stalone has about it.

[bush_cheney2004]

So IF he's not, then the VP is President until an election?

Correct, as defined in the US Constitution. If the Vice President is not able to fulfill the duties of the office, then the subsequent Presidential Succession Act provides a long list of officers to become president regardless of the circumstances for removing a sitting president.

Big Sis Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano would be 18th in line!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession

[Michael Hardner]

The Governator couldn't be interpreted as being 'natural born' in any way.

[CANADIEN]

The Vattel trick has already been tried in court (either Illinois or Indiana), and it has failed. The USSC is likely to take a look at this at the end of a boring day, have a good chuckle and dismiss.

[dre]

Good comedy! Cant wait to see if the black guy gets voted off the island this week!

[punked]

Wasn't McCain Born in Panama where were these idiots during the Election?

[Shady]

Wasn't McCain Born in Panama where were these idiots during the Election?

On a military base. Which is tecnically American soil.

[Wilber]

On a military base. Which is tecnically American soil.

You mean like Guantanamo? At times the US seems quite flexible as to what constitutes US soil.

[Shady]

You mean like Guantanamo? At times the US seems quite flexible as to what constitutes US soil.

Yes like Guantanamo. That's also considered US soil. When American citizens give birth to a child on American soil, it also makes that child an American citizen.

[Wilber]

Yes like Guantanamo. That's also considered US soil. When American citizens give birth to a child on American soil, it also makes that child an American citizen.

And yet they detained people there to avoid having them subject to US law. Flexible.

[Shady]

And yet they detained people there to avoid having them subject to US law. Flexible.

No. They're not US citizens, they were born else where.

[Wilber]

No. They're not US citizens, they were born else where.

If they had been held in the US they would have been entitled to all the protections that US law provides regardless of their citizenship. The government circumvented that by keeping them at Guantanamo. Flexible.

[CANADIEN]

If they had been held in the US they would have been entitled to all the protections that US law provides regardless of their citizenship. The government circumvented that by keeping them at Guantanamo. Flexible.

Interesting, isn't it, that in Rasul vs Bush, the Government lawyers were arguing that US courts could not review habeas corpus on foreign citizens held at Guantanamo because the US didn't have sovereignty over that base. In other words, it is not US soil.

Looks to me like the definition of US is a rather flexible one.

[bush_cheney2004]

Guantanamo Naval Base is not American "soil"....it is perpetually leased from Cuba (Cuban-American Treaty).

Edited November 29, 2010 by bush_cheney2004

[Wilber]

Interesting, isn't it, that in Rasul vs Bush, the Government lawyers were arguing that US courts could not review habeas corpus on foreign citizens held at Guantanamo because the US didn't have sovereignty over that base. In other words, it is not US soil.

Looks to me like the definition of US is a rather flexible one.

Regardless, the issue here seems to be the citizenship of his parents not who's soil he was born on. Thomas Jefferson's mother was born in England and she would still have been a British subject when he was born. All the early presidents and their parents would have been British subjects when they were born. How far do you carry this stuff?

[Radsickle]

The Supreme Court conferred today on whether arguments should be heard on the merits of Kerchner v. Obama, a case challenging whether President Barack Obama is qualified to serve as president because he may not be a "natural-born citizen" as required by Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

Isn't this just a last-breath attempt by the racist republicans who started the rumour about Obama's origins in the first place?

[Shady]

If they had been held in the US they would have been entitled to all the protections that US law provides regardless of their citizenship. The government circumvented that by keeping them at Guantanamo. Flexible.

Nope. Outside the United States, individuals aren't entitled to all the protections under US law. Only American citizens. And yes, when two Americans have a baby, their baby is considered an American citizen, even if they're outside of the country, because they're both American citizens. Is this so hard to grasp?

[Shady]

Guantanamo Naval Base is not American "soil"....it is perpetually leased from Cuba (Cuban-American Treaty).

Exactly. For something like $10 thousand dollars a year. Boy did Cuba get taken to the cleaners on that deal!

[Wilber]

Nope. Outside the United States, individuals aren't entitled to all the protections under US law. Only American citizens. And yes, when two Americans have a baby, their baby is considered an American citizen, even if they're outside of the country, because they're both American citizens. Is this so hard to grasp?

Never said it was. I didn't maintain offshore US military bases were US soil. You did.

[Guest TrueMetis]

Exactly. For something like $10 thousand dollars a year. Boy did Cuba get taken to the cleaners on that deal!

punked: Wasn't McCain Born in Panama where were these idiots during the Election?

Shady: On a military base. Which is tecnically American soil.

Wilber: You mean like Guantanamo? At times the US seems quite flexible as to what constitutes US soil.

Shady: Yes like Guantanamo. That's also considered US soil. When American citizens give birth to a child on American soil, it also makes that child an American citizen.

Do you even pay attention to what you type?

[dre]

Do you even pay attention to what you type?

Your expectations are WAY WAY WAY too high.

[Jack Weber]

Do you even pay attention to what you type?

Why should he??

He's "The Professor"?

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Edited November 29, 2010 by Jack Weber