CP Learns that CSIS interrogated tortured Afghan Detainees

[Jack Weber]

Gee I wonder how that attitude worked for Neville Chamberlain?

Taliban thugs equal NAZI's????

The Zig Ziegler effect has taken place...

[Shady]

Taliban thugs equal NAZI's????

Sort of. They basically espouse the same ideology, and practices related to their sphere of beliefs.

[Alta4ever]

It's our shame because the Afghans we're turning prisoners over to are our allies.

I do feel very shameful not to mention thoroughly disgusted at the pride you seem to insist on displaying.

Pride in what? Our Military our solders?

[nicky10013]

Sort of. They basically espouse the same ideology, and practices related to their sphere of beliefs.

No, they really don't. Go to Auschwitz and tell me that.

[bush_cheney2004]

These people aren't Hitler. Hitler had a vast army and conquered Europe. These guys can't even conquer their own backyard, yet we're treating them as the biggest threat since the invention of democracy.

....a threat that requires 2500 troops from Canada?...far less than in Europe!

Edited March 8, 2010 by bush_cheney2004

[Alta4ever]

These people aren't Hitler. Hitler had a vast army and conquered Europe. These guys can't even conquer their own backyard, yet we're treating them as the biggest threat since the invention of democracy.

In the end though, if you want to flip around the argument, you could say that they are completing their goals. Look at it this way. There's nothing more we love than our liberty, but these guys blew up two buildings and now we're stumbling over ourselves to see who can abuse the most rights. Perhaps they knew us better than we give them credit for. Perhaps they knew that we are actually the greatest threat to our democracy, and not groups like Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.

They do not need a huge army to do what hitler did, just few canisters of VX.

[Jack Weber]

Sort of. They basically espouse the same ideology, and practices related to their sphere of beliefs.

ZZ #2....

[Shady]

No, they really don't. Go to Auschwitz and tell me that.

Yes, they do. They just don't have the same means to implement their ideology.

UN finds mass graves of Hazara killed by Taliban

United Nations investigators found evidence yesterday of three mass graves near the central Afghan city of Bamiyan, believed to contain ethnic Hazaras killed by the Taliban in their last month in power.

Link

[Alta4ever]

ZZ #2....

The lack of value in human life isn't shared? Wanting to kill all those that don't agree.

A nother person that will not heed history and who is doomed to repeat it.

[Shady]

The lack of value in human life isn't shared? Wanting to kill all those that don't agree.

A nother person that will not heed history and who is doomed to repeat it.

Exactly. What do you say to people who keep their heads buried in the sand, on purpose?

[Mr.Canada]

So now the socialists have a problem with interrogation of POW's? In order to gather intel. they must be questioned. I don't understand the problem here.

[nicky10013]

They do not need a huge army to do what hitler did, just few canisters of VX.

They're not genocidal. Sorry.

[Shady]

They're not genocidal. Sorry.

So mass graves don't equal genocide?

[nicky10013]

So now the socialists have a problem with interrogation of POW's? In order to gather intel. they must be questioned. I don't understand the problem here.

Because you're refusing to understand the problem. The problem isn't interrogation, it's knowingly handing those people over to torture. That has always been the problem.

[nicky10013]

So mass graves don't equal genocide?

No, no they don't. There are common factors in genocide for it to be determined as such.

(a) Killing members of the group;

( Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

[Jack Weber]

The lack of value in human life isn't shared? Wanting to kill all those that don't agree.

A nother person that will not heed history and who is doomed to repeat it.

You've just described every totalitarian gov't in the the last 150 years.

Your last statement is so clueless that I can't even be bothered with a response...

[Mr.Canada]

Because you're refusing to understand the problem. The problem isn't interrogation, it's knowingly handing those people over to torture. That has always been the problem.

Well the topic title states..."CP Learns that CSIS interrogated tortured Afghan Detainees" and mentions nothing about handing anyone over. Perhaps be more clear in your title.

[Shady]

Rights Group Tells of Taliban Massacres

Victims have been mostly people of the Hazara ethnic group, who are largely Shiite Muslims, the rights organization said. The Taliban, Islamic militants who control most of the country, are Sunni Muslims and mostly ethnic Pathans.

Link

Stop defending genocide.

[nicky10013]

Well the topic title states..."CP Learns that CSIS interrogated tortured Afghan Detainees" and mentions nothing about handing anyone over. Perhaps be more clear in your title.

Perhaps stop being intentionally obtuse. We both know what's what. Just because you don't have a rational argument doesn't mean you have to play dumb.

[Mr.Canada]

Perhaps stop being intentionally obtuse. We both know what's what. Just because you don't have a rational argument doesn't mean you have to play dumb.

So your contention is that Canada's Armed Forces knowingly handed over POW's who were killing Canadian soldiers and they got smacked around a little by the Afgans?

Ok fine. What do you base this accusation on? Do you have some proof?

[nicky10013]

So your contention is that Canada's Armed Forces knowingly handed over POW's who were killing Canadian soldiers and they got smacked around a little by the Afgans?

Ok fine. What do you base this accusation on? Do you have some proof?

Only the Chief of the Defence staff admitted to it. Again, something you probably already knew. It was in all the papers in December. About a week later Harper shut everything down.

[Mr.Canada]

Only the Chief of the Defence staff admitted to it. Again, something you probably already knew. It was in all the papers in December. About a week later Harper shut everything down.

Ok so in other words you have no proof.

[M.Dancer]

Only the Chief of the Defence staff admitted to it.

He admitted to learning that one detainee was hit with a shoe....

[nicky10013]

Stop defending genocide.

Who was defending genocide? You talk about leftist hyperbole, that in itself is probably the worst hyperbole on this board. I wasn't aware of any massacres nor were most here. Nor is this report actually confirmed.

[DrGreenthumb]

No, no they don't. There are common factors in genocide for it to be determined as such.

(a) Killing members of the group;

( Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

© Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

You'll notice that the war on plants meets all the above requirements in its treatment of canna-people. In some countries they kill us, in others they forcibly take our children. All because we refuse to let them determine what plants we may use. The war on plants is a genocidal violation of human rights.