I'll be at the Gay Pride Parade 2010!

[Mr.Canada]

What steps will you be taking to ensure the material your fetish compels you to produce will not be seen by children?

First stop I'll be sending it to the police, Toronto and RCMP then I'll be sending it to all levels of government then finally to the media. If there's an anti Israel type march as there was last year then I'll also be sending it to B'nai Brith and the other Jewish protection orgs.

I don't support sexual acts and adult nudity in public and especially in front of children nor do I support anti Semitism and I'll be bringing both of these to the attention of those I've mentioned. It's my time and I'm free to do with it as I please, if I choose to do something civicly responsible that's my prerogative.

Last years "Pride" Parade - Summer 2009.

Edited March 13, 2010 by Mr.Canada

[BubberMiley]

It's my time and I'm free to do with it as I please, if I choose to do something civicly responsible that's my prerogative.

You keep saying that even though nobody is telling you you can't. Though some of the people to whom you distribute your unsolicited porn might wish you hadn't bothered.

[ToadBrother]

First stop I'll be sending it to the police, Toronto and RCMP then I'll be sending it to all levels of government then finally to the media. If there's an anti Israel type march as there was last year then I'll also be sending it to B'nai Brith and the other Jewish protection orgs.

"Look Bob, that weird Arab-hating closet fag sent us another video..."

[Jack Weber]

"Look Bob, that weird Arab-hating closet fag sent us another video..."

He'll probably promptly get arrestedfor filming without a permit,stay a little in the crowbar hotel,and perhaps,meet someone who will show him those sex acts freely...

[Guest American Woman]

He'll probably promptly get arrestedfor filming without a permit,stay a little in the crowbar hotel,and perhaps,meet someone who will show him those sex acts freely...

Do you think people are actually required to have a permit in order to be allowed to film what goes on in the streets? In public?

Someone here mentioned seeing videos of people having heterosexual sex on the streets during Mardi Gras, and I haven't noticed any lewd, suggestive responses or personal insults regarding either the watching of or the filming of said videos. Double standard?

A side note about Mardi Gras since it has been brought up -- it's not promoted as a family affair, which apparently the Gay Pride Parade is, and Mardi Gras isn't government funded, which are both issues that I would have objection to.

Edited March 13, 2010 by American Woman

[M.Dancer]

A side note about Mardi Gras since it has been brought up -- it's not promoted as a family affair, which apparently the Gay Pride Parade is, and Mardi Gras isn't government funded, which are both issues that I would have objection to.

Mardi Gras is certainly promoted as a family affair...they try very hard to distance themselves from the flashers..

http://www.neworleansonline.com/neworleans/mardigras/mgfamilies.html

As well, Mardi gras receives government funding...

This Lundi Gras came with a cash bonus, an $800,000 check for the Zulu Social Aid and Pleasure Club, which wants to build a new headquarters for the Carnival krewe that began parading in 1909.

Mayor Ray Nagin on Monday presented Zulu members with the grant, money made available through the city's office of economic development.

http://www.nola.com/mardigras/index.ssf/2010/02/zulu_social_aid_and_pleasure_c.html

[Argus]

Which is terribly unfortunate. I am certainly no homophobe, and yet when I see footage of Pride festivals, it looks to me more like a celebration of severe mental retardation than of homosexuality.

-k

I made the case some years back that the display of perversion at the gay pride parades was actually running counter to the welfare of the gay community in that it tended to make them all look like perves to the casually viewing white-bread mom and pop. I made the case much more concisely and politely than is my usual style nowadays, so as to not offend (not a real concern of mine these days). Boy, what a reaction! I don't think I ever had as many howling, denuncations - nor the obligatory sneering inferences that I must myself be gay - even though I never said a single anti-gay thing.

It's true that you cannot condemn any aspect of gay sexuality or lifestyle without drawing outrage from the left. Even today, police continue to raid strip joints where they suspect the girls are giving more than just a show, but are forbidden to go near gay clubs and bath houses where public orgies take place. I recall one notorious show where a gay Toronto city coucnillor in the audience proclaimed giddily that some of the semen the performers ejaculated into the audience from the stage got on him (Kyle Rae I believe).

Edited March 15, 2010 by Argus

[Argus]

I heard a little group of 10 year old girls swearing like troopers the other day out in front of the corner store. It didn't seem to faze anyone else within earshot the least little bit either.

It should have.

[Michael Hardner]

Here's the real controversy this year: they are clamping down on signs at Pride:

http://www.xtra.ca/public/Toronto/All_signs_must_be_vetted_with_us_first_Pride_Toronto-8355.aspx

Tracey Sandilands, Executive Director of Pride Toronto Inc., has responded to recent concerns about censorship in the 2010 Toronto Pride Parade. She writes: "As usual there is a lot of misinformation being circulated. [...] Everyone who thinks this is 'censorship' should take note that none of this is anything new. The only thing that has changed is that there will be a committee set up that includes community members who will do this in a more organized fashion."

Unfortunately, Ms. Sandilands omits a very pertinent fact. Namely, Point 7 in the Terms and Conditions is in fact new this year. It reads: "The Applicant agrees to present in writing all messaging and signage developed and planned for use in the Parade for approval by Pride Toronto by June 18th, 2010. Any messaging and signage that does not receive the organization's approval or that receives a clear refusal will not be permitted in the Parade."

[g_bambino]

I don't think kids need to see a bunch of nude adults marching down the street, either; it's against the law, and therefore should not be allowed, much less partially funded by the government.

Well, it seems that men are free to let their wangs hang out either a) so long as they're wearing something, or if they do it in the pride parade:

A court in Canada has ruled that you are not naked if you are wearing shoes. Seven men were charged with 'being nude in a public place without a decent excuse' after taking part in a Gay Pride parade in Toronto. The men belong to a group called TNTMEN (Totally Naked Toronto Men Enjoying Nudity). Their defence lawyer, Peter Simm, argued that 'Nude means absolutely, utterly, completely bare without a single solitary scrap of clothing. If you have any scrap of apparel anywhere on your body, no matter where or how flimsy, then you are not 'nude in a public place' under the law'. Crown prosecutors dropped the charges, and the men walked free.

BBC: Streakers and Streaking

Found more info:

For some residents of Canada's largest city, the issue of public nudity is a perennial occurrence: Toronto's annual Pride celebration, held each June, attracts hundreds of thousands of attendees and parade watchers. Virtually every year, some participants in the parade are "attired" (or not) in a manner that inevitably results in the days following the spectacle to be witness to their own parade of outraged letters to the editor and offended callers to radio shows. How, the question usually goes, can some of the Pride floats feature entirely naked individuals and it isn't against the law? Setting aside the question of whether is should be a crime to be naked in a public parade, chalk the lack of charges up to the semantics of Sections 173 and 174 of the Criminal Code. There are a number of hurdles that would need to be cleared before a conviction could be secured under the public nudity provisions: first, the attorney general would have to agree to the charge being laid; second, if the person had any piece of clothing on whatsoever (even a pair of socks), a court hearing the case would need to be satisfied that "public decency or order" had been offended - a frankly difficult case to make when the nudity has occurred in the midst of hundreds of scantily clad parade participants (often including the mayor and chief of police) being cheered on by thousands of happy audience members.

In 2002, seven men who were part of the TNTMEN (Totally Naked Toronto Men Enjoying Nudity) contingent in the Pride parade were arrested for "public nudity." Charges appear not to have been laid, and a subsequent letter from the Ontario Crown Attorney's Office confirmed that none would be forthcoming. A press release from the group cheerfully notes the Crown's conclusion that the appearance of the seven men, "clad only in footwear and sunscreen," didn't give rise to a "reasonable prospect of conviction." As the TNTMEN website notes, if you have an ardent desire to be totally naked in front of thousands of well-wishers, do it in Toronto during the Pride celebrations - and wear shoes.

Under Arrest: Canadian Laws You Won't Believe; pp. 94-95

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Edited March 16, 2010 by g_bambino

[Shakeyhands]

they should have been charged with indecent exposure as opposed to nude in public.

[M.Dancer]

they should have been charged with indecent exposure as opposed to nude in public.

That would be equally hard becauise you would have to show they were hard.

[Sir Bandelot]

Seem to recall some women being arrested not too long ago in Toronto, for exposing their breasts on Yonge Street. Can't find an article now, but found one from Winnipeg-

Female Flasher begs to be free

Second time she's been convicted

The Winnipeg Sun, SUN MEDIA, by DEAN PRITCHARD, May 29, 2008

A 21-year-old woman convicted for the second time of exposing herself in front of school children begged to be released from jail yesterday, claiming she has learned her lesson.

"I promise I won't do it again, I mean it this time," said the woman...

Police arrested the woman May 12 after she exposed her breasts to a passing truck at the intersection of St. John's Avenue and Charles Street, in plain view of a nine-year-old boy a short distance away.

"I didn't mean to do that in front of the kid, I didn't see him," the woman said.

Court heard the woman "frequently acts impulsively" and lives on her own with the support of around-the-clock social workers.

At the time of her arrest, the woman was bound by a strict probation order in connection with a similar incident two months earlier.

The woman was standing across the street from an elementary school at 8:30 a.m. when she exposed her breasts to three passing school buses and dozens of children walking on the sidewalk, community prosecutor Susan Helenchilde told court.

Not saying this should be condoned, but seems to me she was wearing some clothing. What court allows these men to go free for what is essentially full frontal nudity in public, where anyone inclding kids would see it, while this womam went to jail for showing her breasts? I'll tell you why, because the queers are in the hen-house.

[M.Dancer]

Seem to recall some women being arrested not too long ago in Toronto, for exposing their breasts on Yonge Street. Can't find an article now, but found one from Winnipeg-

Been over 10 years since any woman has been arrested for being topless in Public in Ontario.

When Gwen Jacobs bared her breasts in 1991 after being charged with indecency, her subsequent court fight was seen as an empowerment of women. It was also something she did not do under duress by a company nor was she drunk as so many of the participants in the Girls Gone Wild videos.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/vp_binks/20051212.html

[Oleg Bach]

Hey, who knows maybe I'll come back enlightened.

There is little their to enlighten anyone. With the on going seperation of the natural sexes - male and female - and the idea that love and mating are old hat..you had better be concerned with what is the begining of the collapse of society as we know it- It will not be pretty in the end..

Gayification is pretty easy and the dupes that go for it are the inferiors that are about 25 to 30 years of age..it is because all the smart good looking and gifted people are not here to create a better world - they aborted all the high quality human beings and look what we have left - compliant corporate gayified sexless drones.

The effects of the loss of millions of high quality people are now being felt..we have no leadership and take a look at the street on a sunny day when the trolls come out - there used to be at least one bright and beautiful person that would pass by - now they are rare and all we have are ugly people not fit to breed.

[Oleg Bach]

Gay is silly. Straight is serious.

[ToadBrother]

The effects of the loss of millions of high quality people are now being felt..we have no leadership and take a look at the street on a sunny day when the trolls come out - there used to be at least one bright and beautiful person that would pass by - now they are rare and all we have are ugly people not fit to breed.

I do try to ignore you mainly these days, but this particular ditty is quite hilarious. YOu're blaming homosexuality for the lack of leadership? I'd say you're joking, but you're probably serious.

[Mr.Canada]

There is little their to enlighten anyone. With the on going seperation of the natural sexes - male and female - and the idea that love and mating are old hat..you had better be concerned with what is the begining of the collapse of society as we know it- It will not be pretty in the end..

Gayification is pretty easy and the dupes that go for it are the inferiors that are about 25 to 30 years of age..it is because all the smart good looking and gifted people are not here to create a better world - they aborted all the high quality human beings and look what we have left - compliant corporate gayified sexless drones.

The effects of the loss of millions of high quality people are now being felt..we have no leadership and take a look at the street on a sunny day when the trolls come out - there used to be at least one bright and beautiful person that would pass by - now they are rare and all we have are ugly people not fit to breed.

Oleg. I enjoyyour posts but they are always very cryptic in nature for some reason. Can you please decipher this into plain English if you don't mind? Hahaha.

[Black Dog]

I'll be filming at the Pride Parade in Toronto in 2010 in order to film people engaging in public sexual acts such as but not limited to oral sex on the genitals, oral sex to anus. Male penis thrusting into another males anus, that's the place where we BM from. Inappropriate touching such as but not limited to stimulation of the penis aka handjobs, fingering of the vagina or anus and I once saw a guy pinching and squeezing the head of another mans penis through a hole in his chaps. When I looked at him he just smiled invitingly at me which scared me. So, I'll be on the lookout for that as well.

That's, uh, quite the wishlist you have there.

Anyhoo, I'm not sure what pride T.O. is like, but here in Vancouver the Pride parade is quite corporate and bland. There's more sponsors floats than there are leather daddies. Which kinda defeats the purpose in my view.

I made the case some years back that the display of perversion at the gay pride parades was actually running counter to the welfare of the gay community in that it tended to make them all look like perves to the casually viewing white-bread mom and pop. I made the case much more concisely and politely than is my usual style nowadays, so as to not offend (not a real concern of mine these days). Boy, what a reaction! I don't think I ever had as many howling, denuncations - nor the obligatory sneering inferences that I must myself be gay - even though I never said a single anti-gay thing.

No, you just operated under the faulty assumption that winning over mom-and-pop was the objective of Pride.

[Mr.Canada]

That's, uh, quite the wishlist you have there.

Anyhoo, I'm not sure what pride T.O. is like, but here in Vancouver the Pride parade is quite corporate and bland. There's more sponsors floats than there are leather daddies. Which kinda defeats the purpose in my view.

No, you just operated under the faulty assumption that winning over mom-and-pop was the objective of Pride.

In To there are homosexuals arm locked with anti Israel people goose stepping down the street. Blatant anti Semitism and not to mention public sex going on. That's right homosexuals having sexual contact right on our streets, in public, for our children to see. Male on male oral sex, male on male anal penetration. Males leading each other around by the penis bolts that so many of them have these days. Also lesbians fingering each other and breast sucking. I've seen all these things. This is inappropriate behavior and I plan to make it very public. So watch for it.

[Peter F]

... I plan to make it very public. So watch for it.

For Children to see? You're sick!!

[Mr.Canada]

For Children to see? You're sick!!

I am glad to read that you agree that sexual acts performed in front of children is unacceptable. Too bad more on this don't share this view.

[kimmy]

No, you just operated under the faulty assumption that winning over mom-and-pop was the objective of Pride.

Wouldn't that be a more useful objective than the ongoing shock-and-outrage theme that many still seem intent on?

-k

[bloodyminded]

Wouldn't that be a more useful objective than the ongoing shock-and-outrage theme that many still seem intent on?

-k

There are more than a few gay people who would agree with you.

However, the outrage is not about nudity, nor even sexual acts (as is being disingenuously claimed throughout this thread): it's about the...gay-ness of it all.

In fact, more specifically, it is largely about the male gay-ness of it all, since this offends sensibilities far more.

[eyeball]

In fact, more specifically, it is largely about the male gay-ness of it all, since this offends sensibilities far more.

Well that's only natural. Everyone knows it's hot when females do it together.