cybercoma Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 How can something be a national symbol when it's constantly changed to fit the mores of the times. I thought flags, anthems and such were there to provide unchanging standards for which we can aspire, not the pop song of each generation.It's a little egocentric to think that women should aspire to be men and atheists should aspire to believe in God. National identity is constructed and changes over time. Why 'O Canada' instead of 'The Maple Leaf Forever'? Listen to the original lyrics to the latter and it's obviously and emphatically British imperialism. 'O Canada' was created and can be changed just the same if it doesn't fit with the ideals of our nation. I would say that excluding women in the lyrics doesn't fit with the ideals, wouldn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I'm surprised to hear that people have a sentimental attachment to the line "True patriot love, In all thy sons command," because it's completely inane. What is that supposed to even mean? -k It means for instance, When a gorgeous woman walks by a group of young men, by her presence, she commands their attention. Canada, being so wonderful, instills partiotic love in all her sons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) It's a little egocentric to think that women should aspire to be men and atheists should aspire to believe in God. National identity is constructed and changes over time. Why 'O Canada' instead of 'The Maple Leaf Forever'? Listen to the original lyrics to the latter and it's obviously and emphatically British imperialism. 'O Canada' was created and can be changed just the same if it doesn't fit with the ideals of our nation. I would say that excluding women in the lyrics doesn't fit with the ideals, wouldn't you? I'm all for a change...I just don't want them to use the word dost. Edited March 5, 2010 by Smallc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 I'm all for a change...I just don't want them to use the word dost. Dost is a bit like nails on a chalkboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 dost WTF!... "True patriot love, In all of us command," simple and gender neutral.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 How about "True patriot love, our government's demand," Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Dost is a bit like nails on a chalkboard. dost thou thinketh so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 dost WTF!... "True patriot love, In all of us command," simple and gender neutral.... That doesn't sound nearly as good as current. They'd have to find something that flows nicer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyly Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 That doesn't sound nearly as good as current. They'd have to find something that flows nicer. it's subjective..."thy sons" sounds corny to me.."of us" would work...take your favourite tune from the radio and look up it's lyrics, they're generally simple and repetitive and only sound good when sung with music...it's like that cliche about "singing the phone book", the words are often irrelevant... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 It's actually my experience that many people say our son's, which sounds better than thy son's. I still think that all our heat's would be the way to go, but then, I'm not on the committee that will be making the choice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted March 5, 2010 Report Share Posted March 5, 2010 Uhm first of all Parlaiment was prorogued for 22 days. No, Harper prorogued effective December 30, 2009. Parliament's first day back after prorogation was March 3, 2010. You can argue that Parliament was going to be in recess anyways so add the extra days and prorogation was for 22 days but that is just a false and misleading talking point. During a recess life in Parliament can go on: Committees can sit and do official business, the Senate can work. During prorogation none of this happens, or if it does, it is unofficial and does not count. So, you can continue to parrot the lie or you can get with reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 It means for instance, When a gorgeous woman walks by a group of young men, by her presence, she commands their attention. Canada, being so wonderful, instills partiotic love in all her sons. So "True patriot love, in all thy sons command" is supposed to read "True patriot love, in all thy sons, command" which actually means "Command true patriot love in all thy sons." An imperative without proper punctuation, in Yoda-grammar, delivered. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyBurns Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 (edited) How about: "O Canada" "Our home and politically correct land" "True patriot love" "As our gay activists command" LOL Edited March 6, 2010 by MontyBurns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 It is the wedge issue they have been looking for. People bought right into it too. Why are we all so dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 "As our gay activists command" You seem to be ever so preoccupied with the gay issue. Though I'm sure that not all right wingers are bigots, I'm equally sure that you in particular, are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyBurns Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 You seem to be ever so preoccupied with the gay issue. Though I'm sure that not all right wingers are bigots, I'm equally sure that you in particular, are. Just writing an appropriate anthem for this day and age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Just writing an appropriate anthem for this day and age I'm not sure why you would find that appropriate. We give gay people equal rights, big deal, get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontyBurns Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 I'm not sure why you would find that appropriate. We give gay people equal rights, big deal, get over it. The lyrics promote what we believe in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 dost thou thinketh so? Correction: 'Dost thou think so?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 If Canadians are so set in tradition, what happened to the Red Ensign and God Save The Queen?? -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machjo Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 If Canadians are so set in tradition, what happened to the Red Ensign and God Save The Queen?? -k And what ever happened to Canada's status as a British colony or, even further back, and a land comprising multiple nations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 God Save The Queen?? It's still our Royal Anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 It's still our Royal Anthem. Yes....just another "meaningless passing reference to some God". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 Yes....just another "meaningless passing reference to some God". That's exactly what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2010 Report Share Posted March 6, 2010 That's exactly what it is. No...it is far more than that....it is....Royal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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