kactus Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 Regardless of the numbers that died by the nazis in WWII the terror and mass murder caused by the paws of Nazism is a tragedy for the mankind to be remembered! But there is a second tragedy, a post-tragic tragedy! And that is the objectification and commercialisation of the ”holocaust” in the hands of the ultra-orthodox Zionists who intend to milk this golden cow for as long as possible to nourish their political agendas! It is much easier to justify your own injustice and intolerance by an injustice and intolerance you’ve been put through! An eye for an eye is justifiable, but not an eye for no eye! Ironically this very same movement who intend to aid the Jewish community in its defence, manages to contribute and consolidate the "anti-Semitism" and prejudices against their people! Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Posted March 6, 2009 And that is the objectification and commercialisation of the ”holocaust” in the hands of the ultra-orthodox Zionists who intend to milk this golden cow for as long as possible to nourish their political agendas! There are no ultra orthodox Zionists. Not sure who or what you are thinking of but the ultra orthodox tend to view the State of Israel as illegitimate because they are waiting for the messiah to found a new Israel. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
eyeball Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 (edited) Not sure who or what you are thinking of... Holocaust = galvanizing event, which is about politics not religion. I can certainly understand the motivation but the result is what counts. Too bad that what some say about good intentions leading to a hellish situation, which is certainly where Israelies and Palestinians are today, came true. Of course Israel was a galvanizing event to the Muslim world and milking it the other way has proven just as counter-productive in the end. Sucks to be them too I guess. Edited March 7, 2009 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 I can't recall where I read it but it sure made a lot of sense; This conflict is about real-estate, the rest is just ammunition. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 Good news, though. Hamas is more popular than ever with Gazans. Poll: Hamas popularity goes up after Gaza offensive While Hamas feels bold enough to make demands... Hamas leader: Israel must release 450 Palestinians for Shalit's freedom Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 Good news, though. Hamas is more popular than ever with Gazans.Poll: Hamas popularity goes up after Gaza offensive While Hamas feels bold enough to make demands... Hamas leader: Israel must release 450 Palestinians for Shalit's freedom why wouldn't hamas be popular? the gazans lived through the israeli carnage and they know whose bombs fell on them and whose guns shot their children. no amount of propaganda or media control will convince them that hamas brought this upon them. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 10, 2009 Author Report Posted March 10, 2009 why do they hate Hamas... "Vandals also wrote dirty words and anti-Hamas slogans. Several people in the convoy were injured in the attack." On the otherhand, there was cheerful joyous news... George Galloway stoned in Egypt Clown leads convoy, gets stoned, still manages to pose fotr photo op Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 why wouldn't hamas be popular? the gazans lived through the israeli carnage and they know whose bombs fell on them and whose guns shot their children. no amount of propaganda or media control will convince them that hamas brought this upon them. Yeah, I saw the pictures. Millions of bodies turning up after the winter's snow melted. Shells landing all over the city. Tanks and troops closing in from all sides. Heroic defence of the Red Army against the Fascist hordes. It was indeed on of history's greatest battles. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 why do they hate Hamas...On the otherhand, there was cheerful joyous news... Clown leads convoy, gets stoned, still manages to pose fotr photo op Hah...Yvonne Ridley's convoy. Thanks for that. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 why do they hate Hamas...On the otherhand, there was cheerful joyous news... Clown leads convoy, gets stoned, still manages to pose fotr photo op forgive me while i interrupt your high fives, but, why are they throwing stones at him? The attack comes weeks after Mr Galloway, of the Respect party, described Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak as a "tyrant" and "criminal" and demanded that he be overthrown by his country's armed forces. i have a few questions: isn't mubarak a tyrant and a criminal? does galloway being pelted by stone show that egyptians are behind israel and against hamas? is that loudmouthed galloway in the top 5 of hated figures in the zionist world? up there with finkelstein and chomsky? anywhere near gandhi? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 forgive me while i interrupt your high fives, but, why are they throwing stones at him? Because the Egyptians know that Galloway is a clown and Hamas are thieving lying pieces of poo...and that explains the stones and the anti hamas graffiti.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
dub Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Because the Egyptians know that Galloway is a clown and Hamas are thieving lying pieces of poo...and that explains the stones and the anti hamas graffiti.... i wonder if mubarak had anything to do with the stone throwers and graffiti artists. how do you think the egyptian people feel about israel? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 i wonder if mubarak had anything to do with the stone throwers and graffiti artists.how do you think the egyptian people feel about israel? Since the free trade deal, I think they feel that Israel means business. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
dub Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Since the free trade deal, I think they feel that Israel means business. you mean you don't think the egyptian people really care about the punishment the palestinians been receiving from israel for living where they live? is it all about trading with israel? Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 you mean you don't think the egyptian people really care about the punishment the palestinians been receiving from israel for living where they live? is it all about trading with israel? Whether they do or don't doesn't really matter....it wasn't anti isreali scribblings on the convoy.....I imagine they they know the palestinians better than the Israelis...which is why Israelis can travel freely to Egypt and Hamas can't. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 forgive me while i interrupt your high fives, but, why are they throwing stones at him? Heck, I'd be tempted to throw stones at that sack-of-sugar. Ridley as well. Hamas/Hezbollah/Taliban mouthpieces. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dub Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Whether they do or don't doesn't really matter....it wasn't anti isreali scribblings on the convoy.....I imagine they they know the palestinians better than the Israelis...which is why Israelis can travel freely to Egypt and Hamas can't. so you are saying that egyptians like israelis more than palestinians (or was that hamas) because israelis buy oil from egypt? we're learning a lot here today. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 so you are saying that egyptians like israelis more than palestinians (or was that hamas) because israelis buy oil from egypt?we're learning a lot here today. I think if they like Israelis more than Palestinians it's because the Israelis are thieving wetbacks. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
dub Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I think if they like Israelis more than Palestinians it's because the Israelis are thieving wetbacks. ? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Blame it on the bossa nova... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Oleg Bach Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 at the risk of throwing out blanket statements; you are part of the reason why jews hate arabs. Jews do not hate Arabs and Arabs do not hate Jews - they both just hate being poor when they are poor and when they are rich hate the thought of someone esle interfering within their field of investment - The problems have always been territorial and territory is resourse and resourse is economic - These are not emotional issues discussed here - they in truth are money problems - Let's see what happens to the bickering when everyone is broke and everyone needs everyone to survive? Quote
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