India and Pakistan Squaring off again!

[wulf42]

Unfortunately it is only a matter of time before these two settle their differences for good....Damn Islamo extremists won't stop until they start a Nuke war somewhere in the world!

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4BP16V20081226

[Shakeyhands]

Islamo extremists. Sounds serious.

[wulf42]

Islamo extremists. Sounds serious.

They are!.... just ask Western Europe.

http://comops.org/journal/2008/05/09/europes-islamic-dilema/

Edited December 26, 2008 by wulf42

[bush_cheney2004]

They are!.... just ask Western Europe.

Now I know why the Indian consultants hate the Pakistani consultants...it's not just kricket!

[Argus]

Unfortunately it is only a matter of time before these two settle their differences for good....Damn Islamo extremists won't stop until they start a Nuke war somewhere in the world!

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4BP16V20081226

They will just wave their penises at each other for a while and flex their muscles and pose menacingly for cameras, and then carry on as before.

[M.Dancer]

They will just wave their penises at each other for a while and flex their muscles and pose menacingly for cameras, and then carry on as before.

Pictures at 11

[Jerry J. Fortin]

They will just wave their penises at each other for a while and flex their muscles and pose menacingly for cameras, and then carry on as before.

Not this time. This is India's 9/11, and they know damned well who did and where they are.

[BC_chick]

Not this time. This is India's 9/11, and they know damned well who did and where they are.

Naturally, Iraq will be invaded again.

[Smallc]

Naturally, Iraq will be invaded again.

No no, this time, its Iran's fault.

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Naturally, Iraq will be invaded again.

Not Iraq, but Iran. India and Pakistan have never been the best of friends. Naked aggression there could very well spark a Korean event, seemingly unrelated yes, but the reality is that the entire sphere is Chinese dominated. China is facing some very tough times contrary to what people think. Conversion from consumer goods to military hardware is far easier than the reverse. They MUST keep citizens working under their current plan. With the evaporation of their major market in the USA, something will have to give. It will have to be covert, because their reputation cannot be questioned. Along with this is the thirst for energy, and their major supplier of energy is Iran. Iran is known to support un-American activities in Iraq. This is a very tangled web, but don't confuse it for anything else.

[Argus]

Not this time. This is India's 9/11, and they know damned well who did and where they are.

Oh please. New York had what, 6 massive 70-110 story buildings collapsing in its downtown, with 3000 dead. Mumbai had no buildings destroyed, and 170 dead - in a country five times bigger where life, let's face it, is cheap. And if they had a halfway decent police force they wouldn't have even had that many casualties.

[BC_chick]

Not Iraq, but Iran. India and Pakistan have never been the best of friends. Naked aggression there could very well spark a Korean event, seemingly unrelated yes, but the reality is that the entire sphere is Chinese dominated. China is facing some very tough times contrary to what people think. Conversion from consumer goods to military hardware is far easier than the reverse. They MUST keep citizens working under their current plan. With the evaporation of their major market in the USA, something will have to give. It will have to be covert, because their reputation cannot be questioned. Along with this is the thirst for energy, and their major supplier of energy is Iran. Iran is known to support un-American activities in Iraq. This is a very tangled web, but don't confuse it for anything else.

You said it's their 9/11.... I was being sarcastic.

But I don't think India will 'invade' Iran. If Iran were that easy to invade, it would've been done by now. The US and Israel and been using war games against Iran and know that ground and air invasion will be near impossible.

That's why the idea of 'nuking Iran' has been put in our head for the last few years. Bush said it, even presidential hopefuls Clinton and McCain reiterated it. Nobody likes nuking countries, especially preemptively, that's why Iran has been resident evil of the region in the media for so long.

The seeds are being planted because nuking the country is the only way to win.

Edited December 27, 2008 by BC_chick

[Jerry J. Fortin]

India will invade Pakistan, the US will want to invade Iran. North Korea will invade South Korea. China will threaten to invade Formosa. China will offer to stop North Korea if US gives up Formosa and not attack Iran, the bonus would be keeping South Korea.

[moderateamericain]

India will invade Pakistan, the US will want to invade Iran. North Korea will invade South Korea. China will threaten to invade Formosa. China will offer to stop North Korea if US gives up Formosa and not attack Iran, the bonus would be keeping South Korea.

The chinese are one 9/11 away from telling Pakistan to stick it. They are having problems with muslim's in there western provinces now too.

Edited December 27, 2008 by moderateamericain

[LesterDC]

India will invade Pakistan, the US will want to invade Iran. North Korea will invade South Korea. China will threaten to invade Formosa. China will offer to stop North Korea if US gives up Formosa and not attack Iran, the bonus would be keeping South Korea.

like North Korea could muscle the U.S. around..

[Cameron]

Maybe the Taliban will head south and take some pressure off Afghanistan, giving us some much needed breathing room.

[xul]

India will invade Pakistan, the US will want to invade Iran. North Korea will invade South Korea. China will threaten to invade Formosa. China will offer to stop North Korea if US gives up Formosa and not attack Iran, the bonus would be keeping South Korea.

India will not invade Pakistan becasue it is not good for Indian economy and its relationship with America who wants Pakistan concentrating it military force in North to protect their supply line. A war is only good for Russian ammunition industries.

The US might want it but will not invade Iran, for the Iraq war has burned every buck Clinton left for Bush, so Obama has no money to make a new war while he is trying to cut the budget of Iraq war.

China will no longer threaten to invade so-called Formosa, for former Taiwan separatist President Chen has been thrown into jail for corruption or something by their new president. Now both side of Taiwan strait are talking peace and improve economic ties to curb economic depression.

North Korea will not invade South Korea. Several years ago, one of my colleague made a tour in North Korea, he told me the train stoped on the way because there was a power cut. The dictator is not fool. He might not care a passenger train stop on the way for lacking electricity, but he obviously full awares what it means to him if his tanks stoped in the battle field for lacking fuel.

America and China will not give up any country and trade any country, because these countries you assumed to be trade are not the properties of America and China. The people in these country also have self-esteem and also know how to play the ball to benefit their own interests.

Iraq war has proved that any country, even if it is as powerful as America, can not achieve it goal merely depend on its military force, and most countries will learn from this and will manage to settle their arguments by negotiations rather than by wars.

Edited January 6, 2009 by xul

[JB Globe]

India will not invade Pakistan becasue it is not good for Indian economy and its relationship with America who wants Pakistan concentrating it military force in North to protect their supply line. A war is only good for Russian ammunition industries.

The US might want it but will not invade Iran, for the Iraq war has burned every buck Clinton left for Bush, so Obama has no money to make a new war while he is trying to cut the budget of Iraq war.

China will no longer threaten to invade so-called Formosa, for former Taiwan separatist President Chen has been thrown into jail for corruption or something by their new president. Now both side of Taiwan strait are talking peace and improve economic ties to curb economic depression.

North Korea will not invade South Korea. Several years ago, one of my colleague made a tour in North Korea, he told me the train stoped on the way because there was a power cut. The dictator is not fool. He might not care a passenger train stop on the way for lacking electricity, but he obviously full awares what it means to him if his tanks stoped in the battle field for lacking fuel.

America and China will not give up any country and trade any country, because these countries you assumed to be trade are not the properties of America and China. The people in these country also have self-esteem and also know how to play the ball to benefit their own interests.

Iraq war has proved that any country, even if it is as powerful as America, can not achieve it goal merely depend on its military force, and most countries will learn from this and will manage to settle their arguments by negotiations rather than by wars.

Co-sign

[blueblood]

India will not invade Pakistan becasue it is not good for Indian economy and its relationship with America who wants Pakistan concentrating it military force in North to protect their supply line. A war is only good for Russian ammunition industries.

The US might want it but will not invade Iran, for the Iraq war has burned every buck Clinton left for Bush, so Obama has no money to make a new war while he is trying to cut the budget of Iraq war.

China will no longer threaten to invade so-called Formosa, for former Taiwan separatist President Chen has been thrown into jail for corruption or something by their new president. Now both side of Taiwan strait are talking peace and improve economic ties to curb economic depression.

North Korea will not invade South Korea. Several years ago, one of my colleague made a tour in North Korea, he told me the train stoped on the way because there was a power cut. The dictator is not fool. He might not care a passenger train stop on the way for lacking electricity, but he obviously full awares what it means to him if his tanks stoped in the battle field for lacking fuel.

America and China will not give up any country and trade any country, because these countries you assumed to be trade are not the properties of America and China. The people in these country also have self-esteem and also know how to play the ball to benefit their own interests.

Iraq war has proved that any country, even if it is as powerful as America, can not achieve it goal merely depend on its military force, and most countries will learn from this and will manage to settle their arguments by negotiations rather than by wars.

America IMO values India a lot more than Pakistan. It would probably be better for the Indian economy as the US would probably bankroll it. India IMO is America's billion person puppet to keep China in check. India has become the "jewel" again so to speak.

America was broke during the great depression, if Iran upsets the US enough, Iran will face wrath. The US fought the Iraq war on the cheap and didn't come close to using it's full potential.

As for military use not achieving goals, that depends on what the goals are. Military force has been quite efficient at getting nutbars out of power. Nation building, well that's up to the people of that country, no army can build a country.

[JB Globe]

It would probably be better for the Indian economy as the US would probably bankroll it.

1 - It would be terrible for the Indian economy because it would destabilize the country, and stability is what keeps foreign investment flowing.

2 - The US is broke, it can't bankroll it's own wars, much less other country's wars.

India IMO is America's billion person puppet to keep China in check. India has become the "jewel" again so to speak.

India is anything but a puppet of the US, it's forging it's own unique foreign policy, as evidenced by the fact it was able to break the non-proliferation treaty and still negotiate a nuclear technology sharing deal with the US.

America was broke during the great depression, if Iran upsets the US enough, Iran will face wrath. The US fought the Iraq war on the cheap and didn't come close to using it's full potential.

Sorry, so the US has the money for an Iran invasion in addition to war with Pakistan? Iraq was done on the cheap? Are you serious? So this supposed Iran invasion will be even more expensive? Are you not aware of the economic crisis hitting the US? Of the size of the bailouts & tax cuts? Of the fact that America has a debt time-bomb on it's hands? Where on earth is the money for this going to come from? China?

[blueblood]

1 - It would be terrible for the Indian economy because it would destabilize the country, and stability is what keeps foreign investment flowing.

2 - The US is broke, it can't bankroll it's own wars, much less other country's wars.

India is anything but a puppet of the US, it's forging it's own unique foreign policy, as evidenced by the fact it was able to break the non-proliferation treaty and still negotiate a nuclear technology sharing deal with the US.

Sorry, so the US has the money for an Iran invasion in addition to war with Pakistan? Iraq was done on the cheap? Are you serious? So this supposed Iran invasion will be even more expensive? Are you not aware of the economic crisis hitting the US? Of the size of the bailouts & tax cuts? Of the fact that America has a debt time-bomb on it's hands? Where on earth is the money for this going to come from? China?

And if America pulls its investment out of India, it essentially goes back to being a third world country. Sorry, India is a puppet whether it wants to be or not.

Canada is at war, was our economy so bad. The US was at war with Iraq and it's economy is still going (compared to other countries)

The US is not broke, no matter how much you want it to be. by that logic Canada was broke in the 80's.

As long as other countries value the US currency and keep investing in it, the US can print all the money it wants. This has actually just happened, why hasn't the US dollar did the same thing as the Argentinian dollar. As long as there are no people rolling into the bakery with wheelbarrows full of money, the country is not broke.

Considering the numbers used and the light amount of equipment used, Iraq was done on the cheap. The US has armed forces of close to a million people. Were there a million boots on the ground there. So yes it was done on the cheap. it could have cost a lot more and used far more resources.

The US like it or not is still the economic powerhouse of the world. It is so powerful it can take the world down with it. It is also so powerful that it can print a large sum of money without losing too much value.

The US is still top dog. Just like after being next to broke after the depression it still somehow managed to muster a massive armed forces. It did so once, it can do it again.

[JB Globe]

And if America pulls its investment out of India, it essentially goes back to being a third world country.

What money are you talking about? Foreign Direct Investment is committed by companies, not nations. The US gov't can't do anything short of banning FDI to India and freezing American corporation's assets there, which would hurt an already weak American economy even more. And it wouldn't do much long-term damage to India, because other companies from elsewhere in the world who are clamoring to get into the Indian market would take their place.

Sorry, India is a puppet whether it wants to be or not.

Sorry, something isn't true just because you say it is. Either find a recent example of India being a puppet, a single analysist/commentator who agrees with your views, or stop expecting me or anyone else to believe your wild claims.

Canada is at war, was our economy so bad.

Are you honestly comparing the scale/cost of Canada's mission in Afghanistan to the US "footing the bill" (as you said) of an Indian invasion of Pakistan? The cost of the second would be astronomical, look how much it cost the US to invade and occupy a country of 30 million, how much do you think it would cost the US to foot the bill of India's invasion and occupation of a nation of 170 million? Do you think that's comparable to us in Afghanistan?

The US was at war with Iraq and it's economy is still going (compared to other countries)

Now you're just trying to be funny. The US economy is in the worst shape out of most industrialized countries.

The US is not broke, no matter how much you want it to be.

It's definitely GOING broke if current trends continue - the US federal budget is at about $3 trillion and is producing a deficit of $410 billion, the current debt is at about $6.3 trillion, with interst at $244 billion a year. However if you factor in the enormous spending the US will have to do in the next few decades on social security (which has been running a surplus for decades which is used to pay down other gov't departments, and will evaporate once baby boomers retire) and medicaid/medicare, the deficit will skyrocket.

And who's holding that debt? Who will continue to buy that debt? China and other nations. Talk about being a puppet. But God forbid they decide to stop buying that debt - that would be a disaster.

As long as other countries value the US currency and keep investing in it, the US can print all the money it wants.

The thing is - no one values the dollar anymore. And it will be valued less as the US sinks further into debt. In the past few years the US dollar has lost ground to the Euro.

Considering the numbers used and the light amount of equipment used, Iraq was done on the cheap.

Show me one person that agrees with you on that.

Edited January 7, 2009 by JB Globe

[OddSox]

It's definitely GOING broke if current trends continue - the US federal budget is at about $3 trillion and is producing a deficit of $410 billion, the current debt is at about $6.3 trillion, with interst at $244 billion a year. However if you factor in the enormous spending the US will have to do in the next few decades on social security (which has been running a surplus for decades which is used to pay down other gov't departments, and will evaporate once baby boomers retire) and medicaid/medicare, the deficit will skyrocket.

Hmm, almost sounds like a giant Ponzi scheme. Say it isn't so...

[ironstone]

Does anyone seriously think that Saddam Hussein would not have eventually restored his nuclear and biological weapons program if the invasion didn't take place?Admittedly the invasion was launched on FAULTY intelligence reports.Namely,Iraqi Generals were lying to Saddam about the progress of their weapons programs.Lying to save their own hides,telling the truth would have meant their executions.

And please,nobody can tell me the Iranian Gov't is not a major player in supporting world terrorism today!How sad to be in 2009 and have a world leader(Mahmoud Whatshisname)spouting his anti Jewish filth for all to hear.He sounds like a Hitler wannabe.

[bush_cheney2004]

The thing is - no one values the dollar anymore. And it will be valued less as the US sinks further into debt. In the past few years the US dollar has lost ground to the Euro.

So what's Canada's excuse....your dollar has retreated back to its former self relative to the weak US dollar.