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Just the same you've proven my point yet again. It's ok to belong to any religion as long as it's not Christianity and one must never speak the name Jesus Christ or face persecution. This is laid out in the Bible and is proven over and over again every day.

Oh yes, every time you mention Jesus, someone comes and bonks you on the head.

You have no idea what persecution is. I mean, read back what you wrote, then compare it to, say, what the Jews went through for nearly two thousand years in Christendom, or what the Bahai go through in Iran, or Falun Gong in China. You're position is absurd hyperbole.

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This is a valid discussion point. I'm not getting out of hand or attacking anyone. I'm merely not giving all of you any ammo to discredit me with. This is what jdobbin wants, ammo to take me down a peg. I know his game.

No matter what answer I give, he'll attack it as will many others.

If you have a point which is valid and logical, you should be able to defend both the point itself, and your position.

This is, after all, a discussion forum. Some would call it a debate forum.

Discussion consists of two or more people talking about one or more points, and through conversation measuring the value of those points.

If you are afraid to discuss your points, but would rather just keep posting sentences unrelated to what has come before, then you are neither discussing nor debating, you are proselytizing.

You have a blog page of your own if that's all you want to do.

This forum, on the other hand, is not your personal soapbox. If you say something here, you can expect to have it challenged.

Live with it.

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Christianity is based on fact, Jesus Christ was real and walked the Earth. Pontius Pilate was a real life ruler of Rome and put Jesus to death.

This is incorrect on two points......

First, Pontius Pilate tried everything in his limited power to let Jesus off the hook.

Jesus himself would not co-operate with Pilate when he was being interrogated by him. Pilate was seeking some shred of jutification to release Jesus, but Jesus would not speak in his own defense.

Finally, Pilate said "I wash my hands...." in a gesture symbolizing himself having nothing to do with Christ's death.

Caiaphas, the high priest, was the puppetmaster behind the scenes, and the real architect of Jesus death.

So much for marriage of Church and state.

Perhaps you should go back and read Matthew one more time before discussing THIS bit again.

Secondly, Pilate was not a "ruler of Rome", he was a governor assigned by Rome to oversee a rural province.

This isn't myth but fact. It happened 2,000 years ago so people want to try to to say it never happened because it didn't happen on the interwebz.

I don't deny it, nor do I confirm it. I cannot say for sure whether or not this happened.

We have people denying the holocaust, and that event is far more current, and there is far more concrete evidence proving it to be real.

The Bible, however, is a tricky thing to use to support an argument.

It has caused more wars than it has prevented, all due to it's high ideology, which can be interpreted in many disparate ways.

Communism is based on ideology. Big difference.

And so is Democracy, and so is Republicanism, Liberalism, Marxism, Socialism and just about any other political movement.

Just the same you've proven my point yet again. It's ok to belong to any religion as long as it's not Christianity and one must never speak the name Jesus Christ or face persecution. This is laid out in the Bible and is proven over and over again every day.

Exactly what country do you live in??? Man, I feel for you, brother.

Why don't you move to Canada. We welcome ALL religions here, and all people are free to practice and/or preach whatever religion they choose.

They are also free to NOT practice any religion they choose.

Why just the other day a nice lady knocked on my door and handed me a leaflet which she said contained a message from Jesus.

I thanked her, politely lied to her that I was too busy to invite her in for a chat, wished her a good day, then binned it.

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We aren't even allowed to say Merry Christmas anymore at Christmas time in public and the left will have us believe that Christianity isn't under attack. Yeah right.

Merry Christmas, my good sir.

There. I said it. And strangely, no one is kicking down my door to take me away.

I said it to many people last year, and often in public.

In fact, I actually said it TO A POLICE OFFICER......and he didn't arrest me. I think he even said it back. Shameful!!!

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In the 1920's -1940's Josef Stalin of the USSR was burning churches and killing millions of Christians who refused to give up their beliefs. Over 20 million Christians were murdered by Stalin's death squads. Hundred's of Churches were burned down.

Yes, but Stalin was a naughty boy and he doesn't come around to play any more.

All in order to make the USSR an Atheistic State. They succeeded too.

They thought they did, but the Russian Orthodox Church survived as many churches have done, by going underground.

A different age, a different culture.

Could this happen again???

I think it's more likely that a truly charismatic leader could rile up them good ol' southern Christian Fundamentalists and get a real hate-on for all them thar faggots, negras, mooslems, lezbeans et al, and clean up this here continent once an' fer all.

How much longer will it be before people start burning down Churches in Canada? The secularists are pushing everyday to ban religion outright.

I would rather live under a secular government than a religious one.

We see several countries in this world which are ruled by religious men, who worship the same God you and I do, and who have made religion part of their government, taking laws and rules from the scriptures.

Most of these are in the middle east, and do not particularly like Christians.

Still want to combine church and state???

Oh, the wrong church you say???

How about looking back at the history of countries in which there was no separation of church and state???

Can you say "Spanish Inquisition"???

Can you say "Galileo, go directly to jail, do not pass "Go", do not collect $200"???

We must resist their push fellow Christians. We give an inch today and tomorrow they'll be back for another foot. This is how they operate. The secularists never stop. We give in on one thing they'll want something more and more and more and more. Until there is nothing left.

This is why the Catholic Church will never give into them because they know it will never end and they'll keep pushing for more and more and more until our religion is diluted to the point of irrelevance. Which is their goal of coarse.

I really should stop teasing you. Your paranoia is actually beginning to frighten me.

Most of these people pushing for the change of religion aren't even members of any given religion but are atheists/secularists/socialists and live to make us a one party nation devoid of any religion what so ever. Think of Stalinist USSR, think of Maoist China, think about if this is what you want to become of Canada. Religion and speaking the name Jesus Christ banned, Churches burnt down and clergy hauled off to jail.

It's already happening little by little. We must recognize it and resist their siren song as their plan can only lead to our doom.

And each of the countries you cited have changed their ways because after trying out THAT route for over a half-century, they realized it ain't working.

As for Canada, we are light-years away from the sort of thinking that gave rise to Communist Russia and China, and moving further from that place every day.

But bottom line is that this entire CONTINENT will never go Communist, simply because we are all, as a people, hooked on capitalism. The two concepts are incompatible with each other.

God Bless.

Indeed.

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They thought they did, but the Russian Orthodox Church survived as many churches have done, by going underground.

It's a good deal more complex than that. The Church faced intense persecution by the Bolsheviks, and some of the severest came under Stalin, but when the Nazis invaded, Stalin suddenly erected all the Czarist stylings about Mother Russia, including a sudden appreciation of the Russian Orthodox Church. The Church's history after that wasn't so much one of persecution, but as collaborator.

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It's a good deal more complex than that. The Church faced intense persecution by the Bolsheviks, and some of the severest came under Stalin, but when the Nazis invaded, Stalin suddenly erected all the Czarist stylings about Mother Russia, including a sudden appreciation of the Russian Orthodox Church. The Church's history after that wasn't so much one of persecution, but as collaborator.

Thanks for the additional info, but I wasn't attempting to write an exhaustive treatise on the histories of Christianity. It was about getting a message across and debunking a falsehood.

Cheers, TB.

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Stalin and Lenin murdered at least 20 Million Christians living in Russia when they communists led the coup that brought them to power. Yet no one cares about this fact.

The men burned down churches across the country. He was guilty of war crimes and is heralded as a hero by the left wing in Canada. So much so that Jack Layton is trying to look like them.

It became popular to persecute Christians, to kill them at will and this is becoming popular again, this time, in Canada. It won't be long before people start burning down churches here, in Canada and beating Christians as they leave their places of worship. It won't be long.

No one will care, they'll just turn their heads and walk away saying those Jesuits had it coming and Who do they think they are? Believing in Jesus. It is almost here, we're getting close now. The thought of Christianity disgusts the new left wing and they cannot wait until it's open season on Christians. They would love to round us up and kill us all. Then they would be free to press their agenda, unopposed.

The time is near. May God have mercy on your souls.

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Stalin and Lenin ........The men burned down churches across the country. He was guilty of war crimes and is heralded as a hero by the left wing in Canada.

So much so that Jack Layton is trying to look like them.

You think Lenin looked like Stalin? :lol::lol:

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Stalin and Lenin murdered at least 20 Million Christians living in Russia when they communists led the coup that brought them to power. Yet no one cares about this fact.

The men burned down churches across the country. He was guilty of war crimes and is heralded as a hero by the left wing in Canada. So much so that Jack Layton is trying to look like them.

It became popular to persecute Christians, to kill them at will and this is becoming popular again, this time, in Canada. It won't be long before people start burning down churches here, in Canada and beating Christians as they leave their places of worship. It won't be long.

No one will care, they'll just turn their heads and walk away saying those Jesuits had it coming and Who do they think they are? Believing in Jesus. It is almost here, we're getting close now. The thought of Christianity disgusts the new left wing and they cannot wait until it's open season on Christians. They would love to round us up and kill us all. Then they would be free to press their agenda, unopposed.

The time is near. May God have mercy on your souls.

The only reason people go after Christianity the most is because it is the most powerful religion in the world it effects everybody but people who attack Christianity don't go after just Christianity, we go after all religions. If we go after Christianity more it's because it's a big target.

Christians are the most powerful group of people in the world, they still dominate in some areas. Did you know that in some states in the U.S. it is illegal for an atheists to hold office, atheists are also the most mistrusted people in America. So atheists beat Christians in how much they're persecuted right there. Here is some Christian "Persecution"

Some other religous fucks might burn down Christian churches but it won't atheists, As a percentage of people in America atheist make up about 16-20%*. In the American prison system they make up less than one*. Atheists are much less likely to commit crimes. Which burning churches and beating up Christians will always be they will never make Arson and Assualt legal.

Christians are constantly pushing there agenda, whether it's relgion in school or god created everything and evolution never happened. If Christians are opposing the Left wing agenda that's the best sign people have that it's a good Idea.

*All stats from America because they're the easiest to get. If you want to see these Stats ask and I will provide them. I can also provide cites for atheist not being able to hold office and being the most mistrusted.

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To put it a little more succinctly....

Christianity only "appears" to be a target, as in "illusion". The reality is that Christians have historically used violence to advance their causes and conquests. Now that people no longer accept the violence, and see it for what it really is...just another terrorist group trying to advance its own special interests....there appears much more rejection of the ideology, and even armed defense where necessary.

It isn't that people reject Christians. It is that they reject the religion as being insufficient,outdated and manipulative.

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Stalin and Lenin murdered at least 20 Million Christians living in Russia when they communists led the coup that brought them to power. Yet no one cares about this fact.

The men burned down churches across the country. He was guilty of war crimes and is heralded as a hero by the left wing in Canada. So much so that Jack Layton is trying to look like them.

I don't recall Lenin knocking down too many churches. Stalin did plenty of that, up and until WWII, when he suddenly embraced the Russian Orthodox Church as a useful tool of propaganda, and the Russian Orthodox Church became a tool of the Russian propaganda machine, just as it is until this day.

You really need to read some actual history, my friend.

It became popular to persecute Christians, to kill them at will and this is becoming popular again, this time, in Canada. It won't be long before people start burning down churches here, in Canada and beating Christians as they leave their places of worship. It won't be long.

You keep saying this, but the most you can bring to bear are a few anomalous events.

No one will care, they'll just turn their heads and walk away saying those Jesuits had it coming and Who do they think they are? Believing in Jesus. It is almost here, we're getting close now. The thought of Christianity disgusts the new left wing and they cannot wait until it's open season on Christians. They would love to round us up and kill us all. Then they would be free to press their agenda, unopposed.

The time is near. May God have mercy on your souls.

Christians have been saying this for two thousand years. For maybe the first three hundred of those years it was true, but since then it hasn't.

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Jesus waged war on the state. It's only fair that the state wage war on him. The American revolutionary cry during battle with the Brits was "no king but Jesus." Christ was a rebel - get that straight. He was also capable of destroying the state of Rome by destroying himself. Those that hate the idea of independence - hate the idea of Christ. It's logical as the world seems to want to become more dictatorial that it needs to get rid of the rebel ghost. Problem is that you can not kill a dead man.

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Tax free state sponsored churches are the state! Real Christianity is a f*** you attitude the insistes that the individual is a king or a queen ..and every human being is the god of their own realm...can't have that...it would be the ultimate libertarianism...When that bastard saint paul stated that we must submit to governements even when they are evil was a liar. God in his goodness does not install evil governments - People install evil. Let the sociaist and secularists and the CAPITALISTS wage ware on human beings - Yes - look at the Magna Corporation that is attempting to become a real car company - On the compound there is a policy that you will be fired if you present any form of religion - The head of the corporation is god....what a joke - Those old Nazi with their capitalist backers are still trying to rule the world - and still a failure!

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Jesus waged war on the state. It's only fair that the state wage war on him. The American revolutionary cry during battle with the Brits was "no king but Jesus." Christ was a rebel - get that straight. He was also capable of destroying the state of Rome by destroying himself. Those that hate the idea of independence - hate the idea of Christ. It's logical as the world seems to want to become more dictatorial that it needs to get rid of the rebel ghost. Problem is that you can not kill a dead man.

WTF are you talking about. Jesus said quite plainly stated his position on the State in Matthew 22:21. The Romans may have killed Jesus, but in the end he had the last laugh, because this guy you might have heard of, kind of an important fellow in the history of Western Civilization, made the religion based off the Nazarene preacher's utterances (but mainly off of the musings of one Saul of Tarsus) the State religion. At that point, whatever its roots in independent thought, it became an instrument of the Roman state, and ultimately of all the successor states from the Atlantic to the Eastern Mediterranean.

What destroyed Rome wasn't Christianity, but a combination of a series of disastrously inept emperors, a faltering economy which could no longer support the vast Roman military machine, the necessity of incorporating neighboring Germanic tribes whose loyalty was at best dubious, but possibly most importantly, the beginnings of great movements of people in the vastness of the Asian Steppe which saw the arrival early on of the Huns, which besides directly attacking Roman frontier provinces, lead to major disruptions of the Eastern Germanic Goths, who ultimately toppled the Western empire. Of course, a few centuries later, later stages of these Asian migrations saw the arrival of the Turks, who, ironically, ultimately toppled the Eastern Roman Empire (with considerable help from Italian bankers and soldiers, who showed just how Christians really acted towards each other by seizing Constantinople, stealing its treasures and fatally wounding the last great Christian Empire).

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Just thought I'd check in. Who's winning, Jesus Christ, or the Secu-Socialists? Personally, I'm rooting for Jesus, but that penalty he got in the third quarter really didn't help things much. I hope he can pull through.

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This thread is full of Mr.Canada bashing which is also Christian bashing. This thread, the amount of views and responses it has is certainly proof that a deep hatred for our Lord Jesus Christ is alive and well to this day. I suspect it always will be.

In modern times it began with the birth of Marxist Leninist Communism which is the handbook Canada's own left wing play by. He is their God and their handbook is their Bible. Make no mistake Canada's socialists are really just communists, socialism is a polite way of saying communism.

Communism is an Atheist religion make no mistake about that. Communists/Socialists hate Jesus Christ, they hate the power he has. They want that power for themselves and many socialists spend every waking hour of their lives thinking of ways to confuse the good people of Canada and make them doubt their Lord.

We mustn't allow this evil to permeate our lives. It's a disease, a virus that must be eliminated from our society. The Socialist/Communists are winning atm, make no doubt about it, they are winning.

Any time anyone speaks out against them they throw many guilt trips our way. They play the racist card a lot. If they cannot win an argument they'll call us racist in order to end any debate.

I'll include more at a later date. I really want you all to think about what I'v3e said and look around in your life for instances where this bears true. They hide it well but if you look and listen carefully you will see it almost every time you open a paper or turn on your TV. They are brainwashing us, be mindful of there devious ways. We must resist.

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This thread is full of Mr.Canada bashing which is also Christian bashing. This thread, the amount of views and responses it has is certainly proof that a deep hatred for our Lord Jesus Christ is alive and well to this day. I suspect it always will be.

You think people who hate you must therefore hate Jesus Christ? Wow. :lol:

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