Shady Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Joe Biden warned that America's enemies would test Barack Obama with an international crisis within six months if he's elected president. "Mark my words," Biden told donors at a Seattle fund-raiser Sunday night. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. "Watch. We're going to have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. "And he's going to need help. . . to stand with him. Because it's not going to be apparent initially; it's not going to be apparent that we're right." Link My advice to Americans. There's still an option of electing a President who's already been tested. And we can avoid such international crisis by doing so. With the world economy in peril, and with wars in Iraq, and Afghansitan, the last thing the world needs is another international crisis, because of an inexperienced novice in the White House, who's percieved as a lightweight by rogue nations, questionable leaders, and terrorist groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) So what would you call GW??? Obama has more intelligence than GW could ever had hoped for and all the booze and coke fried his brain and he is the reason the world is such as mess! Bush shouldn't ever been elected and even the Republican party would agree to that! Edited October 22, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied Opening Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoh Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 My advice to Americans. There's still an option of electing a President who's already been tested. And we can avoid such international crisis by doing so. With the world economy in peril, and with wars in Iraq, and Afghansitan, the last thing the world needs is another international crisis, because of an inexperienced novice in the White House, who's percieved as a lightweight by rogue nations, questionable leaders, and terrorist groups. Anyone who thinks Obama is a lightweight is going to have their mind changed very soon. If it hasn't already. Its a common mistake to think intelligence and understanding of nuance indicates weakness. Obama's resolve is iron, his path to the white house has been a fight on every level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 "Bring it on." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Drudge report is saying Biden's availability for interviews and such has gone way down and with comments like this, it's obvious the guy is hurting his own campaign. They'll keep him under wraps hoping his huge ego doesn't damage them more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 My advice to Americans. There's still an option of electing a President who's already been tested. And we can avoid such international crisis by doing so. With the world economy in peril, and with wars in Iraq, and Afghansitan, the last thing the world needs is another international crisis, because of an inexperienced novice in the White House, who's percieved as a lightweight by rogue nations, questionable leaders, and terrorist groups. So why will his enemies test him? Why bring on another fabricated crisis just to test him as the POTUS. Someone is really out to get Obama. I guess they are just bitter of the support he is getting. We don't need another fabricated crisis no matter who gets elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 So why will his enemies test him? Why bring on another fabricated crisis just to test him as the POTUS. Someone is really out to get Obama. I guess they are just bitter of the support he is getting. We don't need another fabricated crisis no matter who gets elected. So do you think Biden is wrong? He is the one making the remarks in question, and I don't think he's out to get Obama on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) LOL, this post is so laughably predictable. Translation from Bidenese: "there will be a crisis during an Obama presidency and he's going to need the continued vocal support of his voters because his actions, while being the right and sensible ones, but will distorted by the GOP smear machine which will equate whatever he does with being a terrorist collaborator." Biden is speaking the truth. He didn't say Obama will need help in making his decisions. He said Obama will need the help of his key supporters in countering a reactionary GOP misinformation machine. Biden is right. Edited October 22, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied Opening Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 So why will his enemies test him? Why bring on another fabricated crisis just to test him as the POTUS. Someone is really out to get Obama. I guess they are just bitter of the support he is getting. We don't need another fabricated crisis no matter who gets elected. Joe Biden (and his big mouth) are just trying on the presidency for size, even as he realizes his role as second banana to an inexperienced junior senator. Setting low expectations for the Messiah is a proven political strategy. As for "we don't need"....the usual disclaimer applies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Ahh the politics of fear. Republicans nowadays love to pounce of this type of stuff, or fabricate their own "fears" to the people. Obama is a Muslim. Obama is a socialist. Obama is a terrorist. And ya, someone like Iran or Russia will test Obama by doing something to try and bully him and see how he reacts. Same with JFK. What would truly be frightening is if Palin became President and they were to test her. She can't even get through network TV interviews, what chance would she have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Joe Biden (and his big mouth) are just trying on the presidency for size, even as he realizes his role as second banana to an inexperienced junior senator. Setting low expectations for the Messiah is a proven political strategy.As for "we don't need"....the usual disclaimer applies. I think the key word that people are missing here is "generated". There will be a generated/fabricated crisis to test Obama. Even if McCain gets in, there is no need for a generated/fabricated crisis. We don't need people to make a crisis just to test someone. That is not in the best interests of anyone. We should never have to generate a crisis in order t generate support. Liam He didn't say Obama will need help in making his decisions. He said Obama will need the help of his key supporters in countering a reactionary GOP misinformation machine. Biden is right You have a great point here. Most of the fears generated by the McCain-Palin camp have already been debunked and debated while Clinton was battling Obama for the Dem's nod. They are taking advantage of the ADHD'ers out there that can't remeber what happened yesterday, let alone 8 months ago. Then many will say 'oh I did not see that comming at all' .. yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I think the key word that people are missing here is "generated". There will be a generated/fabricated crisis to test Obama. Even if McCain gets in, there is no need for a generated/fabricated crisis. We don't need people to make a crisis just to test someone. That is not in the best interests of anyone. We should never have to generate a crisis in order t generate support. Sometimes "we" don't have any choice about how a crisis is "generated". And "we" have to deal with the crisis anyway. And "we" find out a lot about so called "leaders" in crisis. I am sure that PolyNewbie can fix "us" up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Sometimes "we" don't have any choice about how a crisis is "generated". And "we" have to deal with the crisis anyway. And "we" find out a lot about so called "leaders" in crisis. I am sure that PolyNewbie can fix "us" up. That is all to help perpetuate a constant state of fear. It works for both sides, and the rest of us are being played with and become victims because of it. But it almost seems like Biden wants to fabricate a new crisis. Which is not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 That is all to help perpetuate a constant state of fear. It works for both sides, and the rest of us are being played with and become victims because of it. But it almost seems like Biden wants to fabricate a new crisis. Which is not good. It certainly worked for "us" back in December 1941...as in the "generated" crisis at Pearl Harbor. Biden is a well known fool when it come to his mouth, and just two weeks before the election, he offers up this huge gaffe. ...and of course....."we" and "us" doesn't apply...just ask Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted October 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Great clip of Sarah Palin, outlining 5 major international crisis scenarios related to Obama. Thanks again Joe! Palin - MSNBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 (edited) IRRELEVANT! The fact is that the rest of the world, especially the MiddleEast, is expecting an end to Republican Neocon meddling around the globe, so if McCain wins, that's when the wars and the terrorism will go full tilt -- especially with a president in charge who wants to expand the war into Iran and the Republic of Georgia! Edited October 22, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied Opening Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoh Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Sometimes "we" don't have any choice about how a crisis is "generated". And "we" have to deal with the crisis anyway. And "we" find out a lot about so called "leaders" in crisis. I am sure that PolyNewbie can fix "us" up. McCains already shown how he handles a crisis. He says he is postponing the campaign, and doesn't. He is unable to convince his own party members to vote one way. He takes credit for a bill passing, that doesn't. In short, impetuous, irrational and not strongly supported by his party. I can see why Colin Powell decided to endorse who he did. Obama is the rational even hand that is up to the task. McCain is a gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 I think the key word that people are missing here is "generated". There will be a generated/fabricated crisis to test Obama. Even if McCain gets in, there is no need for a generated/fabricated crisis. We don't need people to make a crisis just to test someone. That is not in the best interests of anyone. We should never have to generate a crisis in order t generate support. . My assumption, which could be completely wrong, is that what Biden meant by "generated" was "man made" as opposed to a natural disaster crisis. In other words, a military crisis or an economic crisis or a terrorist act or some other non-act-of-God crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 My assumption, which could be completely wrong, is that what Biden meant by "generated" was "man made" as opposed to a natural disaster crisis. In other words, a military crisis or an economic crisis or a terrorist act or some other non-act-of-God crisis. I am under the assumtion it is a man made one as well. But I am getting the impression that it will be a planned crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 IRRELEVANT! The fact is that the rest of the world, especially the MiddleEast, is expecting an end to Republican Neocon meddling around the globe, so if McCain wins, that's when the wars and the terrorism will go full tilt -- especially with a president in charge who wants to expand the war into Iran and the Republic of Georgia! Then that would rule out Obama-Biden, who stated they would like to sally forth into Pakistan as well. No matter, since what the "rest of the world" expects doesn't mean a damn thing to the US federal election. Two weeks to go....and we will vote as we please thank you very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 My assumption, which could be completely wrong, is that what Biden meant by "generated" was "man made" as opposed to a natural disaster crisis. In other words, a military crisis or an economic crisis or a terrorist act or some other non-act-of-God crisis. Biden himself referenced JFK. Can you think of a crisis that occurred in JFK's presidency? I thought Biden was referring to the Cuba Missile crisis, not some natural disaster. Translation, an enemy of the US will push or test Obama early in his term should he win is what Biden is saying. Biden warns dem supporters to not waver in their support of Obama during this time as his response may not seem appropriate at the time. Beyond weird. Keep 'em coming Joe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 It seems that Al Qaeda really wants John McCain to win the election and want a pre-election terrorist attack to boost his chances: Al Qaeda supporters suggested in a Web site message this week they would welcome a pre-election terror attack on the U.S. as a way to usher in a McCain presidency. The message, posted Monday on the password-protected al-Hesbah Web site, said if Al Qaeda wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, "impetuous" Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. "This requires presence of an impetuous American leader such as McCain, who pledged to continue the war till the last American soldier," the message said. "Then, Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming elections so that he continues the failing march of his predecessor, Bush." Seems like Al Qaeda doesn't believe that John McCain would be a better leader to combat terrorism, otherwise they wouldn't be rooting for him, would they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Beyond weird. Keep 'em coming Joe! Agreed...just weird...but not for Joe Biden, who wants to vicariously experience that which he has sought for more than 20 years...the US presidency. Not to worry says Joe....he will be there to help a junior senator through the crisis....good thing he picked Joe! If Obama wins the election, he is going to have to muzzle Joe Biden, or keep him off center stage like JFK did to LBJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Bandelot Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Well both VP running mates are saying dumb things. Palin is still confused about what a VP actually does, it seems. On the balance of it I think Joe Biden would probably do a fine job anyway, regardless of his recent gaffes. Sarah Palin... not certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 ...On the balance of it I think Joe Biden would probably do a fine job anyway, regardless of his recent gaffes. Sarah Palin... not certain. That's the problem....Joe seems a little too eager to demonstrate what a "fine job" he can do. Bring on that big juicy crisis just to prove it! Palin would make a much better second banana.....Biden thinks he is running for president...again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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