Senator Teleprompter

[GostHacked]

I'll tell you who, Patrick George Bush. Can you criticize plagarism now?

If it was GW doin' the plagarizin', you'd be on him like white on rice. With no evidence or link, you even claimed he could't read a teleprompter.

Yes, plagarism is just stupid. Stand on your own words. And to point out I already stated that politicians should wright their own speaches.

I am all over Bush for a lot more than just plagarizin' huyuuk. But again, politicians used the same rehashed crap over and over again, READ MY LIPS !!!! That kind of crap is old, tiring and well, stagnant. So no, I don't support plagarism. Hope I made this clear for you.

[WIP]

What's laughable about this thread is that it starts with some rightwing attack dog finding four mistakes that Obama made during his speeches, and the people in charge of the swift-boating campaign against Barach Obama were the same ones who got this baboon elected as president of the United States -- a man who has said so many stupid things over the last seven years that they really can fill a book: http://www.amazon.com/Deluxe-Election-Bush...l/dp/0743262522

But, let's not worry about past mistakes and focus on the future! The Republicans have nominated a similar dull-witted boob to occupy the Whitehouse (maybe Cheney is planning on staying on as vice president) who has proved on three separate occasions that in spite of his visits to Iraq, he still doesn't know the difference between Sunnis and Shiites!

No surprise there if you consider that like George, McCain's dad pulled strings for his son, and got him into the Annapolis Naval Academy, where he graduated 5th from last, and went on to crash three planes during training for reasons that include: misjudging a landing and flying low. His fifth crash, being shot down and taken prisoner by the North Vietnamese, turned out to be the best career move of his life! It paved the way for the political career that followed!

So, another dimwit who would have been a good-for-nothing bum if it wasn't for his old man! This seems to be the Republican standard for president these days!

[bush_cheney2004]

But, let's not worry about past mistakes and focus on the future! The Republicans have nominated a similar dull-witted boob to occupy the Whitehouse (maybe Cheney is planning on staying on as vice president)

Not possible for VP Cheney to stay on as veep....even a boob should know this.

No surprise there if you consider that like George, McCain's dad pulled strings for his son, and got him into the Annapolis Naval Academy, where he graduated 5th from last, and went on to crash three planes during training for reasons that include: misjudging a landing and flying low. His fifth crash, being shot down and taken prisoner by the North Vietnamese, turned out to be the best career move of his life! It paved the way for the political career that followed!

"Annapolis Naval Academy" is redundant. The good people of Arizona had a lot more to do with it than the NVA.

So, another dimwit who would have been a good-for-nothing bum if it wasn't for his old man! This seems to be the Republican standard for president these days!

How many Democratic presidents over the past 30 years? Dumb like foxes.

Edited June 10, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[Shady]

That was an issue until Patrick came out and said he had given that speech to Obama and asked him to make it. Even the right-wing bloggers realized then it wasn't really plagiarism and moved on.

Nope. When Obama gave that speech, there was no reference to Patrick, and regardless of Patrick's permission, Obama still tried to pass it off as his own. He got caught, and had to fess up.

Apparently Mccain intends to win the presidential ellection in January.

That's when he would take office.

What's laughable about this thread is that it starts with some rightwing attack dog finding four mistakes that Obama made during his speeches

No, they weren't speeches. That's the thing. Without a teleprompter and a formal speech, Obama sounds like Stuttering John. He's an empty suit.

[GostHacked]

Shady

No, they weren't speeches. That's the thing. Without a teleprompter and a formal speech, Obama sounds like Stuttering John. He's an empty suit.

Not to mention most of them have a written copy that they flip through while standing behind the podium. So even with two copies of the speach. When one leader can speak without using either one, you got yourself a great candidate.

[Shady]

New Obama non-prepared speech gaffe:

Obama Calls Penn State The "Nittaly Lions"

Remind anyone of John Kerry's "Lambert Field"?

[Shady]

Obama's infamous "lipstick on a pig" comment

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You stay classy Barack!

[M.Dancer]

Obama's infamous "lipstick on a pig" comment

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You stay classy Barack!

The outrage over this "gaffe" leaves me yawning....Now I'm not an Obama fan in the least but the expression is commonn and isn't derogatory.

[bush_cheney2004]

The outrage over this "gaffe" leaves me yawning....Now I'm not an Obama fan in the least but the expression is commonn and isn't derogatory.

Yep...but it made Obama's campaign waste today's news cycle on defense. Obama compounds the noise by trying to explain it on Letterman's show (taped today).

....Plus....it's just plain fun!

[Black Dog]

The outrage over this "gaffe" leaves me yawning....Now I'm not an Obama fan in the least but the expression is commonn and isn't derogatory.

And it's not like he compared Palin to a breed of dog best known for mauling small children. That would be stupid.

[BubberMiley]

The outrage at this gaffe is what conservatives usually consider "political correctness run amok" when it involves one of their own. Actually, it's even worse than that because it's clearly based on a deliberate misrepresentation of what Obama actually said. I think it makes McCain look bad more than it does Obama, just like McCain's recent ad where he claimed that Obama's vote for "age-appropriate" sex education, where children could be taught about inappropriate touching, etc. was in fact support for full-blown sex ed for kindergardeners. His campaign seems to be relying more on desperate lies than any other presidential campaign in recent history. What with Palin's repeated claims that she was against the bridge to nowhere, that she wasn't involved in troopergate, etc., they seem to be hoping that the voters are too stupid to bother to learn the truth.

Or, when their lies are exposed, they'll just try and play the POW card again.

[kimmy]

The outrage at this gaffe is what conservatives usually consider "political correctness run amok" when it involves one of their own.

Well, that cuts both ways. I've got a strong hunch that the people who are busily arguing that there was no intention of referring to Palin, are the same people who cry racism when righty bloggers insist on using Obama's middle name or when Congressman Joe Bagadonutz (R-Anthill Idaho) uses the word "uppity" instead of "high-fallutin'".

Actually, it's even worse than that because it's clearly based on a deliberate misrepresentation of what Obama actually said.

Is it a deliberate misrepresentation? He was speaking to Obama supporters, wasn't he? They thought it was a hilarious line... were they just mistaken? If he wasn't zinging Palin, the misconception on that is obviously bi-partisan.

-k

[BubberMiley]

Is it a deliberate misrepresentation? He was speaking to Obama supporters, wasn't he? They thought it was a hilarious line... were they just mistaken? If he wasn't zinging Palin, the misconception on that is obviously bi-partisan.

He didn't even mention Palin and it's a common expression. You're just dying for him to slip up so you're desperately looking wherever you can.

Just hope McCain doesn't wind up calling Palin what he has called his wife.

[kimmy]

He didn't even mention Palin and it's a common expression. You're just dying for him to slip up so you're desperately looking wherever you can.

So, the Democrat supporters he was speaking to who thought it was hilarious burnage, they're also hoping for him to slip up?

American Woman, one of the biggest Obama supporters here, thought it was a great zinger at Palin's expense. Did she just say that because she's hoping for him to slip up?

-k

Edited September 11, 2008 by kimmy

[BubberMiley]

So, the Democrat supporters he was speaking to who thought it was hilarious burnage, they're also hoping for him to slip up?

Admittedly, it might have not been the best analogy, but only because Palin herself recently compared herself to an animal with lipstick. But it's a huge stretch to say that by using a common expression, he was suddenly using name-calling as a political tactic. It hasn't exactly been his style yet. Why would you be so quick to assume he has suddenly gone in that direction, unless, of course, you would want to give credence to that interpretation for political reasons?

[M.Dancer]

Admittedly, it might have not been the best analogy, but only because Palin herself recently compared herself to an animal with lipstick. But it's a huge stretch to say that by using a common expression, he was suddenly using name-calling as a political tactic. It hasn't exactly been his style yet. Why would you be so quick to assume he has suddenly gone in that direction, unless, of course, you would want to give credence to that interpretation for political reasons?

I believe it was what the diference, not what's the similarity.

[Black Dog]

Well, that cuts both ways. I've got a strong hunch that the people who are busily arguing that there was no intention of referring to Palin, are the same people who cry racism when righty bloggers insist on using Obama's middle name or when Congressman Joe Bagadonutz (R-Anthill Idaho) uses the word "uppity" instead of "high-fallutin'".

You know why? Both are common idioms. But whereas "lipstick on a pig" is common everywhere, "uppity" is rarely used except when fopllowed by the word "n***ger".

That being said, Obama was totally referring to Palin's convention remark.

Edited September 11, 2008 by Black Dog

[August1991]

The outrage at this gaffe is what conservatives usually consider "political correctness run amok" when it involves one of their own. Actually, it's even worse than that because it's clearly based on a deliberate misrepresentation of what Obama actually said.

I think you've touched on something that explains this whole Palin phenomenon, Bubbler.

By choosing Palin and identity politics, McCain has thrown this whole "political correctness" schtick back into the faces of the Left.

However one considers the context, Obama uttered a non-politically phrase. Lipstick on a pig? That screams NOT PC. Given Palin's recent speech, Obama shouldn't have said it. (Maybe he was tired. Maybe he is genuinely fed up of this Palin nonsense.)

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One can argue that it's just an expression. But then, how many before Obama were metaphorically hung because they uttered expressions too politically incorrect?

IOW, the Right is now watching the Left (Obama) squirm under the very same righteous indignation the Left has imposed on the rest of us with its political correctness, and its identity politics. And make no mistake, political correctness and identity politics are creations of the Left. To the Left, they are the new morality.

I don't think that McCain chose Palin with this precise goal in mind but it seems to have been the immediate result (at least in the blogosphere).

You want political correctness/identity politics? Fine. Let's have with it. The Left is not apparently so comfortable on the receiving end of these self-justified admonitions.

With Palin's nomination, America's Left has been turned from being the accuser into the accused. America's Right is standing beside and enjoying the sight.

This election has all the makings of a culture war.

... Congressman Joe Bagadonutz (R-Anthill Idaho)...

Giggle. Edited September 11, 2008 by August1991

[Shady]

By choosing Palin and identity politics, McCain has thrown this whole "political correctness" schtick back into the faces of the Left.

You're absolutely right. And it's even more rich coming from the Obama campaign, considering they hid behide race to deflect attacks during the Democratic primary campaign. Obama, as well as his willing accomplices in the media, connected practically every criticism of Obama as racist.

Case in point, Bob Herbert of the New York Times, who argued that McCain's celebrity ad was racist, because it featured two white women (Britney Spears and Paris Hilton) after the image of a so-called phallic symbol (the Victory Column in Germany).

The Obama campaign, hoisted on their own petard!

[August1991]

The Obama campaign, hoisted on their own petard!

Exactly.

I think this explains why the American Left - from Matt Damon to Gloria Steinem - are going "apeshit".

This nomination has hoisted them on their own petard.

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And frankly, I don't think this was McCain's intention. I think McCain looked at the map and said: I'd like a governor, a Republican and a woman. He had three choices.

He chose Palin.

[theAdviserMe]

A lot of people never liked the idea of a black man to be the next president of the one and only remaining superpower USA...anyway...I am voting for Palin...WITHOUT McCain...how's that?

[Shady]

Senator Teleprompter, earning his name!!!

CNN) — It appears Barack Obama's teleprompter is hitting the campaign trail.

The Democratic presidential nominee has never tried to hide the fact he delivers speeches off the device, though normally he doesn't use one at standard campaign rallies and town hall events.

But the Illinois senator used a teleprompter at both his Colorado events Monday — making for a particularly peculiar scene in Pueblo, where the prompter was set up in the middle of what is normally a rodeo ring

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