Army Guy

Not sure what caused all this anger towards the military, maybe some army guy stole your girl friend, or maybe your boy friend never know these days, and all that experience has left a bad taste in your month..... It must piss you right off that a soldier forced to retire because of being medical or mentally released, still leave you in the dust when it comes to being the best person for the job....man that has got to hurt, getting your boy friend stolen then losing a job to a military girl that was a much better candidate than you....what did you say you studied again, assistance manger at McDonald's.

So what your saying is all public servants should be conscripted , in order to get your attention, in other words what your saying is unless conscripted, we the public service can go pound salt....people like military, police, fire fighters, well you know the list.....we are not worth the shit on your boots....and yet our employer seems to agree with you. that they are free to use it's citizens for any purpose at all , and when they are no longer able to be useful they are discarded, with no compensation.....how does that work in your world Eyeballs, can you do that legally....are are employees protected....i wonder did they get conscripted, why are you able to plug into benefits and yet military persons not..... See here is the thing eyeballs, our government is elected by the Canadian people, we have also excepted that we will accept those election results and work with them....that means you and me....Now if you don't like the elected government then you can use your freedoms given to you by the government to voice your disconcern...raise enough concern and you will gain support for your cause.....or you can sit in your lofty tree, complaining and whining that you really never ever took up a cause, instead your content to let others do the dirty work for you....

but to do and die.....I get it....i have written my MP already several times....they do respond, but nothing concrete.....but perhaps enough of us will complain and something will get done....one can always hope....

your right we were cast aside because we did not rate ....it pissed a lot of soldiers off when Omar khadr thing was going on.....how a terrorist was going to be treated better by our government than our very own soldiers....His family was well looked after.....while our soldiers had to beg for medical help....our VAC treating us like beggars in the streets....offering ridiculously low pay outs....I remember one of my comrades , who had been blown up by a IED on a donkey, and lost his testicle, it had been removed by a piece of donkey bone.....the VAC offered him 1200.00 because some bean counter had said that is what one testy is worth....he redress it.....resubmitted it for a another review....on the second review they offered him 1600.00 that was their final offer.....( review panels are made up of various members of the Vac staff, and a medical officer, it is set up like a court proceeding , a lawyer is present, you and your lawyer is present....the entire time no one has a clue what it is like to serve or be in combat.....kind of hard to explain to them what it is like when they have no clue.....It was never the same review board they only sat for that one day....never to come back.... If you got them in the morning it was pay day sort of ...late in the afternoon, it was nothing but head bobing and yawns).....he told the review panel to stick their 1600 up their asses....of course they phone our commanding officer to complain he then charged him with behavior unbecoming a soldier, they charged him 800. 00....so today he lives with that constant memory and pain of having gone to afghanistan 4 times and paid the government for the honor of getting one of his nuts blown off for 800.00 dollars. and while all this was going on their was talk of our government going to pay out omar a huge multi million dollar pay out....for being on the other side....all of this was pumped over seas for our viewing pleasure....kind of hard to keep moral up when our own citizens are demanding huge pay outs for terrorists, and nothing for our own troops.... I can remember the running dark humoured joke at the time was to ask around camp how we could get a job working for the taliban because they paid more....the Canadian government paid out more....or when the politicians would have a dog and pony show, and a soldier would ask when are we getting new equipment ....and the politicians would come back with there is no more funding for that....(That was code for not enough soldiers have died yet).and wonder why they would get heckled there is no more money because your paying out terrorist, or giving it out to Canada's number one family the Khadrs.....ya those guys were very popular with our troops.....

Our Afghanistan mission described by our US allieds.....sobering if you think about it, our soldiers giving everything we had while our government collected all the praise, and political points it needed without spending a dime more than they had to....., while Canada and it's government starved us for troops and equipment.....both major political parties did this.....not just the liberals....i mean the liberals we expected it...the Cons well they broke what little trust i had in our political system, i never seen it coming, but just like the liberals they bent us over the table....and smacked our asses like a bad porno..... https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2012/06/22/us_military_thought_canadian_efforts_fell_short_in_kandahar.html

This is not a new problem, it dates back as far as i can remember, they fact that our soldiers are caught in the middle between the Military and minister, and the VAC and it's minister is telling....and this has made headlines over and over again.....But it still has not left a mark on it's citizens....another telling point on where our Military stands with everyone.....Stories like being losing homes, going bankrupt......or not receiving any compensation for any wounds received while on duty....a fact now that 75% of those released from the military have not identified with any wounds.....How can that be ?..... OK i get it, our members are not very popular amoung'st the rest of the citizens, that we don't place very high on the priority list of things to do.....i also get it that their voice is not heard in the great scheme of things....So who are these people, they are Canadian citizens like you and me, they are our sons and daughters, they come in all races, colors, creeds, and religions, they are the people that we have gone to school with, shared a beer with, we have even called them best friends. They have paid taxes, and still do,....what makes them different is they signed the dotted line to serve our government , our nation what ever that entails, night or day they answer a higher calling, so that we as ordinary citizens can rest assured we are under they protection night and day....and for this service....they ask you for nothing except to have their back.....to which we say...ya, ya....and slap them in the face with this..... Losing there homes..... suffering with mental and physical wounds suffered while on duty for us....what is sad, is we are good with that......we are not embarrassed, we do not hang our head in shame.....we read about their plight and move on to the next story........maybe we should take 5 minutes write our MP a small paragraph about why this is wrong.....one day this may be our sons and daughters we are talking about....we need to make this right....we need to tell our government Hey listen to us....

This time it is not the military generals but the National Post taking a swipe at the liberal government......and of course Canadians....And here i thought it was just me.....i guess not.... http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/national-post-view-the-liberals-should-put-the-militarys-need-ahead-of-short-term-political-oh-who-are-we-kidding

Until the entire world gets this wrapped around their minds , nothing is going to stop climate change....and if we think that a Canadian carbon tax will start or stop anything that is sad really......

Well said Rue......Why do we continually need to tax ourselves more for the bad choices of others...a 20 % tax on sugar products because we have an obesity problem, last time i checked obesity was a choice put to much in without the effort to burn it off and poof your a fat bastard....some have said WOW 10 bil the first year, is what we could earn.....is the tax just a way to put money into the governments coffers...or is it to tackle the issue of obesity....which as far as i can tell has not even been mentioned..... we live in a nation where eating healthy cost a lot more than it does to eat junk....who created that nightmare....can it be reversed by our government, and when taxing junk puts basic food out of reach of lower income earners what then.....what do we force them to eat then....and what if they don't get skinney, do we start rounding them up, give them to the military as big soft bouncing targets....do we let the police take care of them, arrest them for being to round, send them to new Federal Fat camps prison, to work off there big bouncing bodies.... where does it stop, do we have to tax all behavior that we don't like....like bad children, so now we pay a bad child tax, disco music, so now we all pay a disco tax, a bad liberal idea , so now we pay a bad liberal tax..... When did we feel the need to take away freedoms and choices in order to pad the governments coffers...

There is a an paved airstrip in yellowknife with military air force presence, meaning refueling assets etc....along with other airstrips in the north that can be used year round and could be used as FOB's for jet aircraft. CFS Alert is one, there are others.

Yes it would but there are plenty of situations when stealth is not the prime consideration.

My source takes it's data from DND, not the US navy.....and is is for the A and B model....the ones currently serving.... yours are for C, D, E, F..... One question yours also includes the use of 3 drop tanks.....the F-35 is clean, only internal fuel, is your going to compare then please do apples with apples.... because the F-35 is capable of also using drop tanks as well to increase it's stats.... http://www.globes.co.il/en/article-israel-to-double-attack-range-of-f-35-stealth-fighter-1001068513

Are you saying that the super hornet has more range than the F-35...because that is not what both companies are advertising, nor is the Canadian airforce stats for it's aircraft.... CF-18 stats are is 330 km on a combat radius, and a 3330 km ferry range no wpns F-35 stats are 1407 km combat radius air to air config and 1158 kms for interdiction mission.....with a ferry range of 2220 km on internal fuel no wpns.... Note that these numbers would increase if the added external fuel tanks.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_CF-18_Hornet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II You mention the twin engine safety model, one that at one time was true and played a role in our choice of the F-18, however safety ratings on single engine aircraft have improved dramatically to the point they are better or on par with twin engine safety records....Having multi engines does not mean your that much safer over the artic...infact many multi engine aircraft have met their fate in the arctic, including aircraft with 4 engines.....

How does all of that justify a Canadian citizen to take up arms , and fight again'st the coalition that Canada was a part of.....point of order that this coalition was formed and authorized by the UN

Did he swear to an oath.....or does that mean nothing, did he sign said oath.....

We already debunked this article in another post but nice try.....Still waiting on your answer to my question.....above ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force NATO took the lead of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan on 11 August 2003. Mandated by the United Nations, ISAF’s primary objective was to enable the Afghan government to provide effective security across the country and develop new Afghan security forces to ensure Afghanistan would never again become a safe haven for terrorists. From 2011, responsibility for security was gradually transitioned to Afghan forces, which took the lead for security operations across the country by summer 2013. The transition process was completed and Afghan forces assumed full security responsibility at the end of 2014, when the ISAF mission was completed. A new, smaller non-combat mission (“Resolute Support”) was launched on 1 January 2015 to provide further training, advice and assistance to the Afghan security forces and institutions http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_69366.htm

It's OK Moonlight , i don't want you defending our military either, you might get a rash, or be confused with some one that gives a shit....

Yes , yes i can.....So i'll ask you again....Is there a nation out there that has brought any evidence to the inter national courts.....or the UN that has resulted in any charges being laid again'st any nation that took part............Has there been any group come forward, with proof....and individual bring proof to the courts/ UN.....You seem to have all the answers why do you not bring all this proof you have to the courts.....Just asking because i'm being flippant..... I know i am a monster in your eyes for taking part in an illegal conflict, .....But wait a min...i was part of the ISAF mission , which was sanctioned by the UN, in fact they created the entire program....So the answer to how many did i lose in the illegal conflict ....none.....

So being young is now an excuse, .... It does show that he was serious about becoming Canadian, when he buys a plane ticket to Afghanistan to fight Canadians OHHH YAAA, bring it on baby........nothing shows loyalty more for your new country than gunning down a few Canadian soldiers, and coming back to suck on the Canadian teat for the rest of his life....life is good.....I'm sure he will be a marvelous addition to the liberal terrorism training cell.....I think i'm going to cry.....wait a minute.....i am having a moment of clarity.....I'll put this douche bag on the flight , no questions asked, in fact i'll escort him the entire trip......He was a terrorist.....end of story.....But that does not matter.....i wonder if it matter to Canadian civilians that had their heads cut off by other other muslim terrorist, who's only crime was being a Canadian, think they got any compassion, think they screamed any less when it was done slowly to induce maximum pain....Some say that is between him and his maker....true enough but that does not mean i have to like it.... Canada will not deport any criminals back to any muslim country due to lack of human rights violations....nor will we ship him out to face charges in muslim countries for the same reason....People don't last long in afghan prisons, or for that matter any muslim prison....because they are the kind and friendly type of prisons........Liberals don't want that on their minds when they go to sleep.....

You mean like we do for native americans......

More Canadian Generals add their names to the original 13 ,including EX CDS, who say the Super hornet interim buy is not good for Canada, cites performance, and pilot safety .....The question remains How many Military generals does it take to give a second pause , and investigate their claims.....And the media has made the claim that current CDS is onboard and supporting the super hornet has to be questioned....WTF nor have we heard from current Airforce Commander....also WTF.....estimated cost of 18 planes is now at 5 to 7 bil.....Does that not perk up any liberal....that was almost the entire budget of the F-35 purchase project......for 18 planes......come on i can hardly wait until that is costed out to the 42 year mark..... http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/matthew-fisher-super-hornets-would-make-canada-reliant-on-u-s-jets-to-defend-arctic-ex-fighter-pilots-say

for a crime to exist their must be a will to press charges.....Any one....going once , going twice....sold there is no charges, there for no crime....Next bring in those damn flying monkeys again....

Another warning fired at the Liberals excuses......there are no excuses available ......This time from the NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, while the liberals are running around trying to fudge the numbers through the way they report defense expenditures. or continuing the old excuse well we contribute troops and equipment ....NATO is not accepting that excuse....and wants countries to pony up ..... But how can the liberals expect us to continue with this exercise of sending troops and equipment when they refuse to upgrade any of it....Not exactly true, they have proven they are capable of buying what they like.....and not what DND wants or likes. http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nato-spending-gdp-brussels-1.4022576

The incentive being more taxes, nothing more than beating the citizens with a stick, which is doing nothing more than giving the government permission to print money, sure they give a little back in hopes we will fell good putting it some of it in our banks for a couple of days once a year, however the majority of that tax collected is going into government coffers and marked surplus to be spent on more ridiculous ideas. And some how you want me to buy into that hook line and sinker because it is good for the environment.... Sorry i'll pass. The government is the one that decided to pull the nation in this direction while others are not, or looking at reversing work in this area....so if they do not have to invest then perhaps they should return all the taxes collected under the Carbon tax scheme.....But wait a minute that's not happening, like i said they are printing money for nothing.....and they will just keep increasing the taxes until the public sector see's opportunity to make some money according to what you say..... Just saying today there is no alternative to not using fossil fuels , and until there is there is no incentive for people to stop using fossil fuels, people will still have to drive, heat their homes, costs for green materials or ways to reduce carbon foot prints are to expensive. so the average guy is caught in the middle, can't go green and can't stop using fuels.....the middle class guy, the guy that liberals are so fond of, and want to help.....is getting bent over the table.....because our government does not want to invest in this latest feel "good project", but it wants to look good on the world stage....so it passes the buck onto it people....and in the process collects shit tones of new taxes....and thats the better way.....perhaps it is the liberal way...... Business don't pay for shit...what ever cost they incur is added to the price of their goods or services....it is always the end consumer that pays.... I don't have to understand tax incentives to know that this entire project is nothing more than a feel good exercise. the largest carbon producers on the globe are not going to follow this day dream or they can not going to be able to afford this crazy scheme by themselves....So i ask you on the global stage what are we going to achieve with all this effort ?A small drop in a very large bucket..... hence my claim... How can you be sure that the dramatic break through your looking for will not come from government funded or tax incentive programs, or that it will not accelerate that progress. it seems to be a common sense thing if you double your work and double your funding you have double the chances of having a break through.....i mean having the government put their money where their mouth is and show us some leadership.....even if the made affordable all this green systems such as solar, wind and water carbon reductions would be still huge....like they did for R2000 homes.... . I may not be the financial genius that you are, but i can tell you that i am getting tired of following some party that has taken up the latest cause and is running with it on the global stage, and making us pay for all of it, so they can get what out of it again.....do you think history is going to show JT as a environmentalist...give me a break.....going green has a huge cost to it.....that much we already know, What i do know is you don't add more taxes on a economy already not performing or stalled....you do the exact opposite, 0 Quote

Your right Impact, for some reason there is a 2016 report , however the info they use is stats from 2014....i could not find a single source on 2016 stats.... http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/12-581-x/2016000/gov-eng.htm the source i used covers the actual year for info is from july 2014 until july 2015, which would incompass 5 months of 2014, and 7 months 2015....