Bakunin

Maybe we should change the name of the country for ontarada...

I think its good. Its better than trying to hide reality.

what is sad with the liberal is that they are waiting the next election to start applying their program like the gay marriages, im sure they will push the issue till the next election to try to win another election on social issue....

Wow, that makes me want to be part of canada even more Vive le Canada !

Eureka you really think that quebecker would let the federal manage education or your idea is to force quebecker to use a federal education system ?

I would say none of the above. The system needs to be restructured to centralise some powers and decentralize others. For example, management of healthcare and primary education should be exclusively provincial. But the feds should be free to provide university funding and scholarships anywhere in the country. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quebec educationnal system is different, how could the federal centralize it without destroying quebec specificity ?

good and just for fun just post a reply if you are from the roc and voted for centralization or if you are from ontario and voted for decentralization. That way ill be able to confirm what i think

I just want to know what ppl are thinking.

I think that Claude Morin was a good politician, either if he was a spy or not, he was a great democrat, and he surely calmed down the die hard independantist. I think his contribution to the pq made their way toward sovreignty very hard but surely very democratic. What irritate me about Le Hir's accusation is his maladive love of democracy, i read the very long article he wrote and i dont think he lied at all, but he surely overeacted on most of the issue. When i talk about maladive love of democracy its because its an obsession for him, i think that if you want to trust someone, he his the kind of guy your looking for. But if he his very sensible, he surely overreact or asume bad intention to evrything. There is a theory, its called the godwin law, wich pretty much say people tend to exagerate evrything and overreact and when it happens, it always end up the "nazism" terms are invoked, well thats what happened with him. The only act wich wasn't overreaction was when he heard the union slowed some voting poll. Wich he say was a tactics to counter the Liberal massive immigration before the referendum tactics.

Your problably right about that, but not only they are mostly on the federal scene but they are also fighting each others inside the liberal federal party. Problably we will have to fight other similar group if we elect another party but we will clean the house for a moment and have a fresh start. In Quebec on the provincial scene after the insanly corrupt duplessis years, our most brilliant and very pro-democratic politician from all party emerged: (Lesage, Levesque, Ryan, Bourassa, Johnson, Bouchard ). My theory is that after touching one extreme, you end up touching the other extreme and it compensate.

I never said canada, the conservative really tried hard to fix canada and the provincial liberal are as much clean as the pq. I don't think all the federal liberal are bad, but there seems to be a small group of people in this party wich are all but democratic and fair. The gomery comission is showing it very well. While the sovreignist and provincial federalist have been almost totally clean in quebec since the duplessis years, the federal liberal have been unfair and using a wide variety of undemocratic tactics... You just have to look how much the federal liberal and provincial liberal are all but good friend... im pretty sure ethics explain why.

sry double post.

At least more objective than real seguin I think the difference is that at provincial level, quebec politician are way more respectfull of the democracy since the duplessis and religious years.. I just can't beleive thei qualify "nazi style tactics" because a report analyse why quebeckers voted "no" to the 1980 referendum, any sane politician will ask for such a report... its just sad to see how far the liberal supporter are able to go with their twisted mind to justify why they cheated... that they used undemocratic methods before, while and after the 1995 referendum... I think its showing no respect at all to the european who faced the real nazisme where people died and etc...

... If the PQ and rene levesque democratic legacy in quebec are considered nazi-style tactics, i wonder what are called the liberal tactics like using the secret service agency to spy, infiltrate and steal document of a democratic party, then trying to buy quebecers with canadian flags....

If the conservative win, they could finally overthrow the government You guys realize how sad is politics these days when the government have to count on a labrador riding to stay to power... I wonder how much the liberal are willing to pay the labradorian with our money to stay in power 1 billion ? 2 billions ? how much you guys predict ?

mcqueen625: I don't know the man but i tought he was a good politician, if you tell me he isnt then maybe i misjudged him, thks for the post.

well IMO only have a progressive leader would be good. Stop the abortion and gay marriage topic would be great too. They should start talking about economic issue.

Harper did a good job to structure and merge the 2 conservative party but its clear to me that he his not the good man anymore or he must change strategy. Just look at the bloc and how well they surfed on the sponsorship scandal, the conservative should have been able to surf like that, even if they would have done half as good as the bloc, at least they would get a majority government. The problem reside in the fact that they arent thinking about what they need to do to win like the liberal are doing. The conservative must understand that they need the progressive vote and therefore they need to make change... not wait and hope the liberal will go deeper in the dirt.

I think Bernard lord would be the best choice, first he his from the maritimes so he would steal liberal vote in the maritimes, i think he his the only guy that could shake up quebec political world and maybe win a few seats, He could prolly get good result in ontario.As for the west, well they are going to vote for the conservative anyway...

Ok, we don't have to be alarmed but i think thats where extra money should go since we have a bigger debt than other similar country. Social program should only be provincial matters and IMO we don't need more right now we should just try to keep the one we have right now. You forgot Paul Martin , I think it explain well why we have such a high debt next time don't vote for a quebecker .

We also have the 10 largest economy. Having $1,000,000 of debt is fine if you make 2,000,000/year. It is a big problem if you only make $50,000/year. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We should then have the 10th biggest debt, wich is 2 time smaller and with the provincial debt maybe 4-5 time smaller. We should have a 4-5 time smaller debt, thanks to trudeau and murloney.... It should be our top priority.

all the important politician of the last 45 year in canada and quebec came right after the Duplessis (union national) years, maybe something similar will happen after the (Chretien Trudeau) liberal years... new young politicians and great evolution.

we have the 5th biggest debt in the world: http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbo...r/2079rank.html and if we add provincial debt....

This month paul martin announced 20 billions $ of stuff, adding to this the 4,6 billions of the ndp... And after that the federal government keep saying their is no fiscal imbalance... while the total deficit of the provinces is at about 10 billions ? And make no mistake their will still be big surplus at the end of the year or before the next election... I think we shoul either have given this money to the province or pay back our debt wich is one of the biggest in the world if not the biggest...

first reaction, belinda stronach gave the victory to the libranos. second reaction, now whats next ? Should harper resign, should the conservative attemp to gain back its progressive base ? Duceppe is skyrocketing in the poll since the sponsorship scandal, whats wrong with harper, why can't he use the scandal and the political situation to promote and convince canadian like duceppe convinced the quebeckers ?