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Arresting them, putting them in jail or fining them rests on the principles of rehabilitation, redemption and restitution that is applicable to all criminal sentences. If you kill them, you cannot apply those principles to any effect.

Gay porn edgy apparently. Which would explain Mr. Canada's ability to toot his own horn. If you know what I mean. Note to Mr. Canada: sorry, I couldn't resist and I couldn't find the thread you made just for you...

I find your 'tone' towards Solomon and the CBC to be full of bias and right wing brainwashed ideology and not paying enough to the body language of Martin in the CTV interview. Therefore I find you - and everyone at your workplace/home/town - to be 'disrespectful' to Canada and all Canadians. Remove all of your flags and maple leaf paraphernalia and get out of our country now.

Wait one minute now - is there some idea that Team Quebec will play the international powerhouses of Italy, France and Switzerland in a hockey tournament? They could have it at Le Nouveau colisee... Ones of thousands would attend...

LOFL!! Perfect answer!!

Please explain... I mean, do you think people wanting gossip is a phenomenon engineered by a sensationalistic news force or do you think it existed prior to sensational news which, by the way, has been around for a very long time? You either think the people are getting what they want or you think there is this big conspiracy to get them to think what the corporations want. Or is there some middle ground you are referring to?

But if the people of Egypt elect them in free and democratic elections, then so be it right? If the people of Egypt elect to go to war, then they'll get what they asked for. Whether they want power for themselves (and really, its politics after all) the people have shown how far they are willing to go to get what they want...

I can't believe I read the whole thing! Post of the year mate. Congratulations!

They still have rights.

Well either way you are titch daft now aren't you? Can't be bothered to actually make a point, just direct all disagreements to the 'foremost authority' on the subject. Riiight. Until the next "foremost authority" comes along of course. Lazy and daft. Can't even bother to quote salient points Bob? I can and even keep it topical: What's Your Poo Telling You? In other words Bob, look behind you, it's the same shit as before. And it's still shit. No, but it is a condition that is referred to by the Parole Board during their deliberations whether one is rehabilitated or redeemed. Duh.

Self-determination. Do you support the concept wholly or in part? ‘WE ARE NOT AFRAID' So if they throw out the autocratic rule and decide to go another route - even if they have free and democratic elections and vote for an Islamist government, do we not applaud them for achieving a measure of self-determination because that is what we want for all oppressed people?

Oh sorry, I must have misread your words, I thought you said: based on the OP which showed that 1200 known infant murders condemns 170 million to barbarism? And you know - for certain - that "Pakistan shows little or no inclination to adddress such cases" by way of what information? Did you miss this phrase in the quote article in the OP? Let me help you out: "...infanticide is a crime on the rise." Do you get that? Infanticide, in Pakistan, is a crime. So it's against the law. And you are familiar with the Pakistani response to infanticide how? Wait, I get it. What you are saying is that it is not enough that infanticide in Pakistan is a crime, against the law - which they put there to address the infanticide problems, but not they have to police everyone to prevent such deaths ahead of time. Like they should have done with Kermit Gosnell. Remember him? He is the guy in Philadelphia who was caught murdering all those babies by severing their spines with scissors. Of course, what does this have to do with the USA and Canada? A Brief History of Infanticide Infanticide is a crime in Pakistan, as it is in the US and Canada. Children are murdered by their parents in the US and Canada. What "OUR VALUES" are you talking about? Bullshit. Selective morality. Here, have a review: Infanticide in Canada We? Whose this "we" you speak of? Is it some club you belong to? Is it ia trade club? How about an immigration club? Now that's some final moralizing right there. Say it ain't so...

Sounds like the Bible to me, which I am sure you are going to offer up in your next dodge, you know, stone 'em til their dead. Of course when considering cases, sentences, prison programs and releases, the court never allows psychiatric or psychological reporting at all. Completely unheard of right? I mean in must be against the laws all that medical consultation. Right?

So there were 1200 infanticide deaths reported in a country of 170 million and all of a sudden "those people are simply barbarians?" WTF?!? So a tiny fraction of their population practices a heinous form of population control and thus we should turn our backs on their entire population. Let 'em starve even, the bastards! Good God. Let me guess, you also complain there are too many of them in the first place right? Ok, well, fair is fair. Meet Kermit Gosnell: 'House of Horrors': The case, so far Mind you, these infancticide figures were collected from one of the US' main cities, leaving out hugh swaths of the largely urban nation. So let's see you drop everything you have to do with the USA - no products, no TV, no Internet web servers hosting your favourite message boards, because you know, they are a pariah nation. High time for you to treat them as such Wild Bill.

Dodge. Read these books: Everybody Poops 410 Pounds a Year Kama Pootra: 52 Mind-Blowing Ways to Poop And then come back with some concrete, objective evidence that our laws are wrong.

Indeed. So I was wondering where to post this link - could go in Canada/US relations I suppose, but it more or less relates to the OP from another angle. Canadian woman denied entry to U.S. because of suicide attempt This grey haired and presumably Christian woman didn't have her person searched, but she was initially denied entry into the US because of a mental health issue that was responded to by the police. She eventually got in, it cost her a little more, but mental health issues are a security concern apparently.

Please feel free. But until you can cite some concrete, objective evidence that anyone - even "monsters" like Bernardo - are beyond rehabilitation and redemption, then we'll just add you to the looney-tunes club name "Those Who Frequently Speak Out of Their Ass." I mean fair is fair. The word "chance," by the way, was in reference to the laws currently on the books here in Canada since the laws here deem rehabilitation and redemption possible.

Really? You "wonder" about vigilante justice and why society must be protected from lunatics that believe they can subject society to their morally just cause? Riiiight. You talk tough, but talk is cheap on the ol' anonymous intertubes ain't it? You would become what you despise - a murderer - no better than any other murderer who still believe they had the "right" reasons to kill someone despite getting sent to prison anyways. And in your case, no doubt, it would come out as first degree murder. Good for you PIK! You have stooped to your own lowest standards.

Sounds like government to me! Isn't that how it always ends up? Especially in Australia!

*eek!* and "upside down civilization??" You mean, oh, gawd no, not like Australia! Oh, they don't have the death penalty either, so maybe it isn't so bad.

This is a very interesting post WB, may I? Yes, but it wasn't necessarily the fiscal conservative aspect of the Reform Party that the opposition were frothing at the mouth over. If I recall correctly there were some socially conservative values that were outright rejected along with a certain brand of fiscal conservatism - that is, fiscal-conservatism-at-all-costs - that the "opposition," i.e. the majority of Canadians, thoroughly repudiated with their votes. The Reform Party was rejected holistically, not just because of their fiscal conservative policies. I mean, Stockwell Day, come on now, are you kidding me?? Lookey here, as a former Reform Party supporter, where a "fiscally conservative" party would put an end to bribing various segments of the electorate, you have managed quite neatly to segment the electorate by talking about the "mushy middle" below. So let me ask, in your segmentation of the electorate, what other segments are there other than the "mushy middle?" The "hard right" perhaps? What other segments are there? So, first of all there is no riding with a dozen canoe museums and I only know of one Canoe Museum, the one in Peterborough. Have you ever been? Have you ever been to any museum at all? Do you not think that spending money in ridings to boost tourism and cultural knowledge and pride is worthy of spending money on? Of course not - they have plenty of choices like anyone else. They can form their own party, call it the Rereformed Party or something and get smartly rejected by the segmented electorate once again. I, for one, would enjoy this. Harper is a realistic politician who knows how things operate in TROC for the most part. I would love a National Wild Rose Party in Canada, just to see them and all that they stand for to be thoroughly rejected by the segmented electorate acting as "opposition." More recognition of the segmented electorate, which is the nature of Canadian politics, that fiscal-conservatism-at-any-cost Reform Party failed to heed. Manning's Reform Party was a waste of time so much so that they had to rename it to try and remove the stigma of the odious brand. Yeah, a nice "cushy upper" scholarly position designed to disguise the fact that it really amounts to nothing more than a pasture.

*gasp!* How dare you consider that anyone is capable of rehabilitation and redemption! Oh, the humanity. Well, yes, indeed it is 'humanity' isn't it? Plus I noticed you said the word "chance" in keeping with the spirit of our laws.

No, it doesnt have to be gaudy 'Just Say No' campaign type signage, just a nice discreet reminder as to who laid out a good chunk of coin. Maybe even print the FIP logo on all their tickets.

Yes they would! Oh... you said 'self-respecting... Go Pack! Hey, if the Packers weren't there, I'd be rooting for the Bears, just because. As for Cutler, that was a killer for sure. I mean, Hanie looked good, but I doubt he would have taken a games worth of pounding by the Packer D. Say what you want about Jay Cutler, but he was getting his share and he stood in there. I even thought he was starting to adjust too... bummer.