Moonbox

You do realize that nobody is just taking your word for granted though, right?

That's true, but it's also true that the burden of proof and basic human reasoning don't flip upside down because you want them to. If your system holds that unsupported claims are valid until somehow disproven, then the most effective debate strategy is just to continue making as many claims as possible. That's not actual reasoning, but it does explain a lot of your content here.

When "LIAR!" is your default response against anyone who disagrees with you, and you've repeated it thousands of times across hundreds of threads, you're no identifying deception. You're just projecting it. That was just another example of you not being capable of holding a debate without compulsive accusations of lying. How much time is someone supposed to waste on you when that's all you can ever come back with? Is that a good use of my time, or yours?

So the algo feeding you the conclusions it knows you want to hear makes it more reliable? I think there's a term for that.

The last chart seems pretty flimsy. Minimum 8 suspects per data point?? Where is this even from? I don't really have much of a point to make but that chart makes me suspicious and looks like the sort of thing you go digging for to reinforce an already-formed opinion, rather than for actual information purposes.

My game is highlighting your dumb game, I guess? The amount of times you've accused someone of lying on this forum is batshit. I'll continue pointing that out until you learn to behave and debate like a reasonable human being. 🙃

Maybe you can tell me, specifically, what you're looking for? Specificity is your kryptonite, not mine. 🤡

Here's a logical exercise that I sincerely (no troll) would hope you indulge me on: If I claim that Pierre Poilievre is a transvestite and that there is verified original footage of him doing drag shows at underground bars, you'd probably contest that claim, right? Assuming you do, who has the burden of proof here? Are you now required to prove to me that Poilievre isn't a tranny?

If I go back and look at your engagments, it's you firing off about lying within the first couple of comments +90% of the time. It's bad-faith right out of the gate. That "handful" is almost literally anyone who disagrees with you, and the thousands and thousands of accusations of lying you've tossed about this forum no longer hold any meaning whatsoever. That you think people are afraid of you is comical. You're just another noisy MAGA baboon.

The point of contention is that you are asking someone to prove something didn't happen. That's silly. The burden of proof is almost always on the affirmative claim. If you are claiming something happened, you have to show evidence of it. Demanding evidence that it didn't happen is nonsensical - like asking people to disprove that aliens exist. It's impossible.

You're not calling anything out. You're acting out a compulsion. It's a ~90% probability that you will accuse anyone/everyone you debate with of lying within the first 2-3 posts. It's unhinged behavior that eliminates any opportunity for good faith debate from the start, so when people stop responding to you...that's because they're running away? Last word wins, right!? 🤡

Wow a two-for one! User is doing his usual "you runNinG awAY From Me!" AND "YoU arE LYing!" all in two lines. That's efficiency! 🤡

The chart shows real GDP per capita, which is already adjusted for inflation. Weird how someone so apparently knowledgeable about economics doesn't know ECON 101 stuff.

It looks really bad on Carney. The contrast of him signing trade deals while his counterpart in the USA is starting foreign wars to distract from his low approval and the Epstein drama is a whole lot of mud on his face. 🫠

That's just one of the reasons that Quebec in particular is so frustrating. They have seemingly everything going for them - educated workforce, a wealth of natural resources, robust agriculture, ocean access for their ports, cheap energy...and they still lag behind. The large federal transfers enable and perpetuate their ineffeciency and waste.

I don't know if all transfer payments need to be stopped...but I do think the formula is fundamentally broken and counter-productive. It's one thing for the federal government to try to even a few things out to ensure things like basic health care are provided, but when 20-30% of your provincial revenue is coming from other provinces then all you're doing is throwing good money after bad, and reinforcing shitty economic policies and non-viable communities. It has to make sense to anyone with a brain that paying billions annually out to backwards provinces that insist on opposing not only their own economic progress, but also those of paying provinces, is an easy recipe for building resentment.

It's a pretty stupid paradigm, with New Brunswick getting roughly 30% of their provincial revenue from federal transfers. In short, they're getting subsidized by gas-producing provinces in part because they refuse to develop their own resources. This is why the Alberta independence movement exists.

Nope, you entirely misunderstood my point.

Nobody is freaking out like it's the end of the world. Nobody is suggesting we throw out all that we've built between our two nations. That's the goofy partisan projection of Pierre and the CPC being repeated, and little else. Canadians are just addressing the reality set before us. What we previous understood to be a mutually beneficial, symbiotic relationship has been exposed as a naive dependency on a more powerful partner that can and will use that relationship as leverage to coerce and bully us. It would be foolish and irresponsible not to be taking steps to reduce that dependency. Trump isn't as much of an anomaly as people seem to think. He's just the current-day culmination of +30 years of stupidification in American politics, and once he's gone there will be another demagogue ready and waiting to make noises that the Tea Party/MAGA apes want to hear. The scariest thought is that the next one might not be a ridiculous, obese orange buffoon.

What is this even supposed to mean? What does past history say? What are we throwing out? Be specific, because I don't even know what I'm supposed to be responding to here, and I'm not trolling.

No, tomorrow we will not be in a different spot. Two Trump presidencies in the last 10 years have underlined how unreliable the USA is as a partner. Trump is unreasonable and impossible to negotiate with in good faith, but he still needed +40% of the population to enable him. The collapse of American credibility under Trump is what's leading the world (not just Canada) towards countries like China. Nobody is naive enough to think China is a benevolent partner, but at least it's predictable and doesn't set policy based on the fickle temperament of the world's biggest man-baby. Uncertainty is the bane of business investment.

The problem is that we rely too much on trade with the US, and Trump and his clown circus are using that as a weapon against us. The imperative now is to diversify so that we have other options and can't be bullied as easily. In the past we could rely on the USA as an ally and a good-faith partner in trade. The idea that they'd turn adversarial this quickly never even crossed our minds. Trump's a bad-faith negotiator and making concessions to him only leads to further demands of concessions. According to him, the trade deals with Canada and Mexico are terrible, and it's like he expects everyone to forget that he was the primary author of that deal.

I this a rhetorical question, or a joke? I think you know what the answer is...it's orange and shaped like a blob.

Thanks for proving my point, muppet. When the Conservative did it, it was for "ethical" reasons, but when the Liberals are doing it, it's for personal greed. 🫠

It's fascinating how entirely devoted your brain is to delusional self-affirmation. I don't have to concoct anything. I've literally watched you explain how reasonable it was for David Emerson to cross the floor to Harper's team back in 2006...two weeks after he was elected as MP. 🤡