kengs333

Majorities could still happen, but who says that's a good thing. Parlaiment is about representing the people, and if people feel that there are 30 parties out there that represent their views, then members from all those parties should have the chance of being elected. MMPR is set up so that parties have to get at least 5% of the popular vote, and out set of parlaimentry procedures are such that business should be able to function properly so long as the dominant party doesn't try to disrupt everything like the Cons did to make it seem like parlaiment is dysfunctional...

No, you see you're doing it yet again... did you even bother reading anything about the proposed system, or did you simply vote against based on your assumptions???? The "MM" part stands for "Mixed Member" meaning that the system elects a "mix" of riding and list candidates. You still get a riding MP. What's so difficult to understand about that?

Why not turn it into an episode of Relocation, Relocation... Israel is where it is for a reason. The Zionists wanted it there, it was created even though the land was already occupied, so I say live with the consequences.

No, it's logical.

I was paying attention to what's important. The Liberals and the Cons are basically the same party, different colour.

Yeah, it's funny the antipathy towards the Liberals when they basically supported the Cons over the last two & a half years. Cut from the same mold and just wear different colours.

Everybody who was paying attention should have known that there were two definite Independents; I threw in the third on a lark thinking that McHale may actually manage to pull it off thinking that arrogant Finley was finally done; turns out, some guy in Edmonton almost won, so it still was almost three...

Because it's logical?

*yawn* why don't you nominate him for an Order of Canada, then?

Just over 1% point increase in popular support is steadily static results in my opinion, but of course Canada's FPTP allows him to gain a disproportionate number of seats...

*yawn* I guess you're just being a prick because your friends didn't show up yesterday... If there are 308 seats in the HoC, then there is not logical reason for the scoring to reflect double that number.

Well, McHale got 10% of the vote. That's respectable for an Independent. I'm a little mystified by Finley's re-election, but I suppose the Carbon Tax had a lot to do with that, it being a large rural riding. The poll results should be interesting.

This is something that didn't come up much in the campaign, but I think that it is something that needs to be discussed. Every party ran candidates with the intention of trying to win votes in certain "communities". Even the Bloc did it with a Lebanese-Canadian candidate, and I think it's speaks to a certain double standard that we have in our society.

It is for you, apparently. The HoC has 308 seat, not 616.

Here's a new comet discovered by a Canadian researcher: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/10...t-cardinal.html

Oh, this is going to be funny (and humiliating for us). I can just see Harper having Diefenbakeresque fits about Obama.

I think that these should be divided by two because each "off" seat is "on" somewhere else. Let's say prediction: Con 308 Lib. 0 election results: Con 0 - off by 308 Lib 308 - off by 308 TOTAL = 616

The whole Con campaign was a blunder and the fact that this is the result says something about Canadian voters. Everything that happened in this campaign is a precursor to more scandals and bungling during the next four years, by the end of which I'm sure most Canadians will be wondering "what were we thinking?" and vote in a nice Liberal majority.

Childish. Just goes to show that Ontario isn't mired in regionalistic group-think like other parts of Canada. Ontario had every right to give Harper the boot, but there is no real alternative except maybe the Greens. If the Greens would make Ontario their "homebase" there are some ridings in southwestern Ontario that are promising.

Get real. If the Liberals pull themselves together, people might shift support back to them. But as it stands, there are three parties with distinct political ideologies on the "left" (Greens are centrists in my opinion) and we just have to live with it.

There's nothing in "International law" that makes deporting illegal aliens who engage in criminal activity "illegal". If members of Six Nations do not feel themselves to be Canadians, then they are illegal aliens. You know what it says to me when a so-called nation is subject to the fiduciary duty of a larger political entity...?

Do you even realize that you're undermining your own arguments? Joseph Brant sold Six Nations land. This is something that he, as a member of Six Nations, did; this is properly documented. How could he do such a thing? The Crown had virtually ZERO authority at that time because in the late 18th century Upper Canada was frontier territory; no police, no real courts, no real administratve apparatus. Later on, as things became more organized, the issue became that Six Nations was not properly conducting its affairs; it was the government that forced Six Nations to start maintaining documentation of his transfers of land because they simply swapped it amongst themselves as per "tradition" or sold it off to land speculators to but more booze. The fact that there are records starting in the mid-1800s is because of the fact that the government wanted Six Nations dealings to be legal. Whatever the Ojibway are, they owned the land that Six Nations is situated upon, and sold that land to the Crown, which in turn granted it to Six Nations. The Huron were situated in the Midlands region of Ontario. Their presence and demise has been extensively documented.

Joerg Haider dies in car crash: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7664846.stm

Have you ever voted?

Got a problem with your "w" key? Keep in mind that just because the stock market rallied for a day, that the economy in general is not still sliding towards a recession. We just assured ourselves of having a neocon government during what will probably not be a good economy the next three or four years. Canada never does well with a Con government during tough economic times. Keep in mind, too, that the general trend is for Cons governing for 5-8 followed by lengthy Liberal governments. With a new Liberal leader, I suspect that this trend will continue. In my riding a lot of Liberals apparently went Conservative. I'm not sure why you're trashing the Liberals given that they supported the Cons on so many occasions.