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I hear Harper's a reptile kitten eater LOL and has hurricane generator in the Sussex Drive basement.

Is it necessary to throw around insults, can't you discuss intelligently without that kind of low discourse? I didn't support Stockwell Day and I don't support his religious views, but he has been excellent in Foreign Affairs and as an MP. If you want to rehash old news about his lawsuit, you should read up on it first. Stockwell might have made a mistake in writing the letter, qand paid for it, but he was on the money. That school trustee should never have been representing a pedophile, he could have passed the case to another lawyer, there are plenty of them. School Trustees are supposed to be looking out for our kids, not defending pedophiles, even if it is their legal right to do so.

Maybe not. You know Emerson is an old Socred and from the Conservative wing of BC's Social Credit Party. He was the architect of Bill Bennett's restraint program that was essential for BC but viewed by many as hard right-wing policy. He is probably one of the best connected citizens in BC as far as industry and international trade is concerned so he will be a great asset to the CPC caucus, our government and our country. He is well regarded by the business community and could have been a serious thorn in the CPC side in opposition. Its better he is on our team now team now and am confident that he will do a very good job for the CPC. BC should be pleased that pleased that Emerson will be teaming up with Gary Lunn, the new Natural Resources Minister. Together, the two of them will provide powerful leadership for BC. There is a lot of potential for BC with the Gateway Project and David Emerson is the man to drive the program forward. So even though I'm disappointed at this crossing the floor business, it is better for the CPC and for BC at least in the long run.

thought you might like this one: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/773 We, too, want to live in peace, but for the short time that we, Europeans, still have before the era of Eurabia, we want to do so in our land according to our rules, not those of islam. Jyllands-Posten wondered whether this was still possible in a country with a Muslim minority. It found out that when a country has let in a Muslim minority it has let in the Muslim majority from the rest of the globe. Today Muslim radicals set the Middle East on fire, bullying their religious minorities, because we dare to “disrespect” them, our religious minority (which our political leaders have so foolishly allowed to enter our countries), by printing mild cartoons in our newspapers.

I've heard him when I've been in the U.S. he coined the phrase 'red diaper doper babies' to describe the left. I found him a bit over the top. I like Rush Limbaugh, he's pretty good and not so reactionary. As for the homosexual business, 'widely assumed' is not proof.

Just heard on CFRB that a professor in a Maritime University put copies of the cartoons on his door - he was told to take them down. Bill Carroll thinks he is wrong and we shouldn't offend the muslims, heck maybe its even islamaphobia, we are just stirring them up. Hmmm

I'm with duffy on this one, the NDP will definitely play hardball, but I doubt they would call an election so soon. Do any of the parties have enough money to do that, we know the liberals don't.

I do, and completely agree with it. How can we not want to protect our children. I would have to question the motives of anyone who disagrees with it, if it has the close in age clause.

All of this has served to re-inforce the stereotype of Muslim intolerance and violence.

"Jihad warriors"? Weren't the Crusaders jihad warriors? And "subjected"? Where would you have chosed to live? Moorish Spain or Christian Europe? http://www.africawithin.com/black_history/..._chapter18.html Cordoba was the most wonderful city of the tenth century. It was served by 4,000 public markets and 5,000 mills. Public baths numbered in the hundreds. This amenity was present at a time when cleanliness in Christian Europe was regarded as a sin. Education was universal in Moorish Spain, available to the most humble, while 99% of Christian Europe was illiterate In the tenth and eleventh centuries, public libraries did not exist in Christian Europe, while Moorish Spain had more than seventy, of which the one in Cordoba contained over six hundred thousand manuscripts. Scientific progress in astronomy, chemistry, geography, mathematics, physics, and philosophy flourished in Moorish Spain. Scholars, artist and scientists formed learning societies, while scientific congresses were organized to promote research and to facilitate the spread of knowledge. A brisk intellectual life flourished in all Islamic dominated societies. You seemed to have missed the point - however, that Muslim empire unfortunately no longer exists. Maybe they can attain these things again, but not if they keep up the psychotic violence, and certainly not under the leadership they have today.

He knew what he was selling and surely knew the dangers. Darned right he should serve some time, in boot camp too.

Good !!!!

The Crusades were a result of Muslim expansionism and of course the fall of Jerusalem, a defence against Jihad. http://www.firstthings.com/ftissues/ft0506...les/madden.html The First Crusade was called in 1095 by Pope Urban II in response to an urgent plea for assistance from the Byzantine Empire, the last Christian state in the East. Things had been going badly for Christians for several centuries, ever since the explosion of Muslim warriors out of Arabia in the seventh century. Egypt, Palestine, Syria, North Africa—the core of the Christian world—had been conquered by Muslim jihad warriors and subjected to Islamic rule and law. When Turkish jihad warriors invaded and conquered Asia Minor, they reduced Christendom to a tiny corner of the world None of which has anything to do with today's violence, which is continuing. Maybe you need a paradigm shift, civilized people today normally do not protest with such violence and rage. If theyare angry with their own impotence and poverty then they need to realize that it is their own fanatisicm, religion and governments which keep them shackled to the dark ages. Muhammad 'Abd al-Salam Faraj, a very influential Egyptian leader, wrote that "Islam can only succeed by the use of weapons, as was true in the past" . Faraj and his idealogical followers propose violence, terrorism, and political assassinations, as a means to accomplish their objectives.

I looked on my map and couldn't fiind this Eurabia you speak of. Yeah, except the mightiest muslim country could be squashed (militarily speaking) by any of the weakest western nations. They know that, which is part of what they are so angry about. This rage born of impotence and powerlessness, kept festering under brutal regimes that further keep the people hopeless and ignorant and succeptiable to superstisious rot. Don't be too sure of that. http://upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=...07-072431-9805r Long Live Russian Democracy eh !

Gang rape by Muslims is also going on in Australia, which in part could have been one of the reasons behind the race riots there. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=20535 "But she had every reason to express her disgust. After taking an oath on the Qur’an, the man – known only as MSK – told the court he had committed four attacks on girls as young as 13 because they had no right to say “no.” They were not covering their face or wearing a headscarf, and therefore, the rapist proclaimed: “I’m not doing anything wrong.” Maybe American TV has something to do with it, but a lot is to do with the western mode of dressing as in - no burkha or headscarf, in other words, their cultural upbringing. Socialists in Denmark actually went so far as to suggest that maybe Danish women should cover up in order not to offend Muslims. I don't have the link saved but remember it clearly as I found it offensive that it be suggested that we bow down to extremism and give in to such a backward culture.

Hope none of you are members of the Rotary Club or the Lions, because if you read their own you might get a surprise. e.g. that Hamas believes the Rotary and Lions Clubs are "secret societies" that are part of the international Zionist conspiracy. "For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained," states Article 22 of the charter. "They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realization of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there. With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there." The section goes on to suggest the Zionists were also behind World War I, the League of Nations, World War II and the United Nations.

That's really why all these protests and attacks exhibit the weakness of the underlying doctrine itself -- if they honestly believe in a powerful and omnipotent god who will strike down his enemies, why do they need to go to bat for him? He can just twiddle his little finger and take care of his enemies. Unless, of course, that powerful and omnipotent god doesn't exist, or they have doubts about his power and omnipotence. . . If they want their countries to be under total lockdown from freedom of speech, so be it. The muslims exhibiting outrage in the form of violence are only securing the fact that they can't tolerate the kind of lifestyle we take for granted. It's a shame that they feel the need to resort to violence but to each their own i guess. Personally I'm staying right here in U.S.A. where there's a lot of political drama, but I can draw a cartoon and not have to worry about being shot at. I can't wait to see Europe and australia, but you couldn'y pay me enough to step off a plane in any country where the people are so determined to not let others express an opinion. Freedom of speech is under attack now at the U of T http://www.knowradicalislam.com/ By BRODIE FENLON- http://www.torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndG...429452-sun.html A week-long conference on radical Islam organized by Jewish student groups at the University of Toronto has stirred up controversy and resentment among Muslims at a time of heightened sensitivities due to world events. The "Know Radical Islam Week," which includes presentations on terrorism and civil rights violations in Islamic regimes, began yesterday at Sidney Smith Hall just as violent protests swept the globe over published caricatures of Prophet Mohammed. The coincidence was not lost on U of T student Jonathan Jaffit, director of campus affairs for Betar-Tagar, the Zionist student activist group that helped organize the conference. "The issue of the cartoons in the European media just goes to showcase even further how radical Islam is suppressing freedom of speech through violence," he said.

The cartoons were published in a Danish newspaper in Denmark. The protests against free speech occurred in London. Do you think a fundamentalist Islamic definition of free speech should apply in Canada? Should it be illegal for Canadians to ridicule certain religious figures? Should it be illegal for Canadians to question certain religious practices? NO!! What the Muslim rioters are saying is: "If you don't restrict freedom of speech, we will burn down your buildings and kill your people" Why should we succomb to this blackmail, and where will it end? This is an opportunity for the western gov'ts to stand up to these radicals and take a firm stand - including Canada. Completely agreed Scriblett. Their behaviour is only best described as uncivilized or savage. Personally when people act like that, I begin to doubt if they are human. Declare martial law and start shooting. See how they like it when people attack their civil liberties too! Personally, if Iranian media posted an anti-Catholic comic in the paper, I doubt if I'd get all my cousins together and go torching embassies. If they want to be respected as equals in Western culture, they better start acting like civilized people in hurry. Right, this is ignorant mob mentality and Eurabia is in big trouble if they don't take a firm stand now - and I have to say, stop all Muslim immigration. In my mind this is more evidence that we are heading for a clash of 'civilizations' and if this isn't a danger to our planet and our lives, then people who don't see that have their heads in the sand. And for those who think 'they didn't start it' check out history. It was Muslim expansionism and the Turkish capture of Jerusalem that triggered the Crusades. They were abominable, and both sides were savage, but the Crusades to the East were in fact, defensive wars - in direct response to Muslim aggression and to defend against Muslim conquests of Christian lands. I personally have no doubt that the goal of the Islamists is still a world wide Caliphate.

Me too, very disappointed, in this instance we are no better than the liberals. There should be a by-election immediately or he should sit as an independant.

Me too, I didn't like it when Belinda crossed the floor and got a cabinet position, and I don't like this. There should definitely be a by election if we want to prove we are better than the liberals.

The cartoons were published in a Danish newspaper in Denmark. The protests against free speech occurred in London. Do you think a fundamentalist Islamic definition of free speech should apply in Canada? Should it be illegal for Canadians to ridicule certain religious figures? Should it be illegal for Canadians to question certain religious practices? NO!! What the Muslim rioters are saying is: "If you don't restrict freedom of speech, we will burn down your buildings and kill your people" Why should we succomb to this blackmail, and where will it end? This is an opportunity for the western gov'ts to stand up to these radicals and take a firm stand - including Canada.

This is the religion of peace - really? Eurabia is in trouble, if they don't stand up to this violence and excesses we won't have any freedoms. I would love to comment more but am still away for a few days and no time.

Whoops sorry, didn't get all the links cleaned up, am on the run, so will have to do it later, let me know if its a real problem.

Sorry for the long post, but there's a lot to say and some good reading for comments. Might be off line for a 2-3 days too. Canada's Islamist Seat By Charlotte West<http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/authors.asp?ID=796> Despite the Conservative victory http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1535108 n Canada, the Liberals can boast a new member of parliament, Omar Alghabra http://www.mississauga.com/mi/topstories/s....html>\ from the suburban Toronto riding of Erindale-Mississauga. Even before his election, Alghabra's nomination victory made news because of the Islamic supremacist statements* <http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/553> made then. The event featured declarations such as "This is a victory for Islam! Islam won! Islam won! ... Islamic power is extending into Canadian politics!" as reported by Arab attendees, even (this was discussed before the election) The Toronto Star reported http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentSe...ar/Layout\ /Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1135291812605&call_pageid=968332188492>that Alghabra supporters came from outside the riding and some were urging people to "vote for the Muslim, not the infidel." Maybe. But maybe not. Seems prudent to find out who Omar Alghabra is. His official Liberal bio reveals he is an unmarried 36-year-old, Saudi-born Syrian who came to Canada at age 19 alone (his family remained in the Middle East), got an engineering degree from Ryerson University, and an MBA from York University. Some of his community work is mentioned - he sat on the Toronto Star's unpaid community editorial board in 2003–04 and was president of the Canadian Arab Federation in 2004-05. But some community work is left out: He was not only a member of, but a speaker for Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights a radical campus network urging corporate "divestment" from Israel. This organization also circulated anti-Jewish 'bioweapon conspiracy" literature* http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:l54twh...-watch.or\ g/article/id/311+%22The+circulation+by+the+Solidarity+for+Palestinian+Human+Righ\ ts+%22&hl=en which *helped incite the Concordia University riots http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:z5csBa...index.asp\ %3Fx_context%3D46%26x_review%3D9+%22Solidarity+for+Palestinian+Human+Rights%22&h\ l=en in 2002. SPHR, which supports the "right of resistance" without denouncing suicide bombing, remains a group Alghabra *defends* http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:RSXdwM...520files/\ Home/Heckler%2520veto%2520muzzling%2520campuses-%2520Toronto%2520star.pdf+%22Oma\ r+Alghabra%22+%22Solidarity+for+Palestinian+Human+Rights%22+%22Norman+Finkelstei\ n%22&hl=en in his writings and supports. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22Oma...SPHR%22&b\ tnG=Google+Search&meta Although many characterize the swastika-employing SPHR as *more hate group than human rights group*< http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:hSop4Z...r.ca/sil/\ archives/031127/oped/031127sphr.html+%22bashing+Israel+and+deligitimizing+its+ri\ ght+to+exist+through+the+use+of+loaded+rhetoric,+inaccurate+quotations,+and+libe\ lous+accusations&hl=en>, and their members and activities are often barred from campuses, Alghabra invokes the right of "free speech" to pave their way. He is also involved with the Islamic Society of North America. Upon his nomination victory, *attendee Galal Abdelmessih*<http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/12315.shtml>noted that Alghabra thanked the Islamic Society of North America http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/groupPro....asp?grpid=6178 for supporting him. ISNA is being investigated in the United States for ties to terrorism. Its Toronto elementary school in 2004 received SR 1.03 million http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:yoO8Za...com/%3Fpa\ ge%3D1%26section%3D0%26article%3D44576%26d%3D9%26m%3D5%26y%3D2004%26pix%3Dkingdo\ m.jpg%26category%3DKingdom+%22SR+1.03+million%22+%22Saudi%22&hl=en about $350,000 Cdn.) from Saudi Arabia's Islamic Development Bank, known for funding radical Wahabbiism http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:PIYMYb....gov/legi\ s_center/subdocs/091903_henderson.pdf+%22Islamic+Development+Bank%22+%22Wahhabis\ m%22&hl=en Alghabra's record also contains troubling elements: In 2002 the *Canadian Arab Federation stated it did not consider Hamas, Hezbollah, or Islamic Jihad terrorist organizations http://www.caf.ca/SearchResults.aspx?KeyWord=%22Hezbollah%22 and strongly pressured the Canadian government against criminalizing them. It lost and Ottawa did outlaw *Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. As CAF president in 2004, however, Alghabra still defended terrorist groups, to the point of *condemning CanWest media http://www.nccar.ca/media_centre/biasmedia.htm as "biased" for calling them "terrorist." Asked if he would specifically denounce suicide bombers, Alghabra would not comment http://jewishtribune.ca/tribune/jt-060105-04.html, but complained that he was being "trapped." His name appears on an August 2004 listing of Canadians who openly support terrorism. http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:Brqv_o...outcultur\ e.com/group/soc.culture.palestine/messages/446484.html+%22Omar+Alghabra%22+%22SP\ HR%22&hl=en Alghabra maintains that racist discrimination is the sole reason why since 2003 he has been denied U.S. entry http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article.js...59090>\ unless he passes a security check which includes finger printing. Alghabra denounced as "offensive" Bill C-7 http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:ohWtEf...ty+Act%27&hl=en the Public Safety Act to impede terrorist activities, calling *security concerns a "pretext" to suspend rights http://www.zerra.net/freemohamed/Alghabra_April2004.php He charges it would use "shoddy intelligence" to support "power abuse" providing as example the 21 Muslims questioned upon returning from a Toronto conference. However, U.S. Customs and Border Protection Assistant Commissioner, Kristi Clemens, explains: "We had ongoing, credible intelligence http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/...?ID=16747\ that conferences such as this one in Toronto had been used, are being used, and will be used by terrorists to transmit fraudulent documents, to fundraise, and also to mask the travel of terrorists. Based on that information, we decided to have individuals verify they were who they said they were." Although Alghabra smoothly says, "universities should be responsible when dealing with potentially confrontational and provocative issues," he contradicts himself in practice. When programs featuring accused Holocaust deniers or groups seeking Israel's elimination http://tinyurl.com/8q52z trigger administrative delays, room changes, or extra security costs, he likens Canada to "dictatorial regimes" and charges universities with "muzzling" free speech. Alghabra strongly denounces *Canadian Security Intelligence Service http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/en/index.asp>and Royal Canadian Mounted Police practices as discriminatory, demanding ever more "safeguards" against what he calls their *"mistakes and biases http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:s69qOP...tive.com/\ html/csis_practices.html+%22canadian+arab+federation%22+%22charities%22&hl=en>. However, CSIS is already one of the most open and accountable http://www.csis-scrs.gc.ca/en/newsroom/bac...der02\.asp security intelligence organizations in the world. Alghabra supported the Niagara Palestinian Association in their *Formal Policy Complaint* http://tinyurl.com/9gsdp against an Ontario Provincial Police Chiefs' terror prevention and management skills exchange trip to Israel. The complainants denigrated Canada's recognition of Israel's world renown in terror management http://tinyurl.com/a9cuu and demanded the OPP learn from the Palestinians too. NPA president, Burhan Azzeh, was arrested when co-workers reported his threatening at work: Maybe it's time to blow up some Jews http://www.jewishtribune.ca/tribune/jt-051006-04.html>. His wife, NPA co-president Susan Howard Azzeh, organized a 2003 march against the Jewish state and its leader, featuring the swastika and Hitler http://tinyurl.com/bn7qo Alghabra says he finds *"any mixing of religion and politics offensive http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:ntHE6Y...sauga.com\ /mi/news/story/3231343p-3740866c.html+%22I+find+any+mixing+of+religion+and+polit\ ics+offensive.+%22&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1> yet supported the application of sharia http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/553 in Canada, lamenting in Arabic that "the problem was ... we [Muslims] who were divided among ourselves and disunited in our ranks." Alghabra claims to be "puzzled" that the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission requires that *broadcaster Al Jazeera be edited to conform to Canadian hate laws http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/pub...imnews+3308>, while allowing Fox News into Canada unrestricted. He insists the CRTC must grant the same privileges to *a broadcaster routinely breaking Canadian laws http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2013 by airing material that CRTC chairman Charles Dalfen said exposed people to "hatred and contempt on the basis of religion", as one that does not. Alghabra has denounced numerous Canadian organizations or their practices including those of the RCMP, CSIS, the OPP, the CRTC, CanWest media, Canadian university administrations, the Public Safety Act, and government officials that are in place to fight terrorism and keep Canadians safe. Still he won't denounce suicide bombers. Instead, he relentlessly demands freedoms for terrorist organizations, extremist groups, campus intimidations, and anti-Semitic media. He positions himself as a moderate; indeed, he speaks like a moderate, yet he consistently subordinates Canadian security norms and values to individual freedoms in order to advance militant Islam's standard positions and causes. It's little wonder his supporters babbled with glee that Islamic power isextending into Canadian politics.

Arab groups and Israel are exerting strong pressure over a promise made that Canada would provide $12 million it has pledged in economic and political aid following the election. However, at the time of the promise Prime Minister Paul Martin said he would not tolerate a Hamas government. Hussein Amery, president of the National Council on Canada-Arab relations, said Muslims and Arabs here do not want to see Hamas in power, but Canada cannot abandon its commitments. Mr. Amery is optimistic Hamas will renounce its core tenet calling for the destruction of Israel. Alan Baker, Canada's ambassador to Israel said unless Hamas unequivocally declares it has abandoned its anti-Israeli platform, Canada cannot engage in any dialogue with it IMHO we should not recognize Hamas or provide any foreign aid until Hamas renounces terrorism and recognizes the right of Israel to exist. This is definitely a political minefield for Harper. Will Hamas be the new Taliban? Strange, if anyone cruises rabble now and again to see what the radicals are saying, you will find that they are cheering the election of terrorists and condone Hamas terrorism. Very strange.