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Just can't stop lying? Nothing works without it, no? Police seized arms from capitol rioters.

Not if we can't figure out other ways of producing it, but handing the lion's share to the capitalist. I'm not blaming or calling for a massive redistribution of wealth no, nothing like socialism that begins with a great fairy tale and ends in a disaster. But why couldn't we, very obviously, do it any other way? If capitalism had to compete for talented and motivated professional with an alternative framework where one shares ownership, is motivated to produce best results because it's paying right into their pocket while doing meaningful work they like wouldn't it be a productive competition with a better outcome for all or at least a great majority?

There's a level where "UBI" becomes a handout. Like social assistance now is $600 to $800 monthly. Clearly it's a level of misery in these times, comparatively, that cannot stand anywhere close to prosperity. Do you want UBI to be at the level of real prosperity? Then there will be folks who'll "retire" and you'll have to bring in more souls from abroad and pay them more UBI just to keep the status quo forget any progress. The debt would skyrocket, the interest will follow, obviously. The next market crunch with high rates (and what if this one?) public budget goes bust. And this happened already. Keep it at the level of misery, a few bucks added then clawed back with working folk funny accounting for no reason, homelessness and misery for those who couldn't or wouldn't work. That's what we have now, isn't it, what's the point? It just won't work. The solution is not to throw more buck, but meaningful participation and broad prosperity.

I can't recall and token work-like for a handout has very little to do with meaningful participation, dignity and self-respect so not really shared prosperity. Wouldn't it be funny / weird if you could fit into your 5-year old dungarees? It's been a century or two, several generations. Things happened, Internet, globalization, online economy... yet in social organization and administration we like to pretend that yes we can, and easily, look It doesn't have to be one man. A cooperative of drivers could provide smooth on demand affordable transportation model in a modern city at the current level of technology. That it cannot seemingly work any other way but a boss with the board pocketing most of the revenues, is only a testament to our inability as the society to create new innovative ways of managing common affairs and challenges. Nobody else's fault. Bosses, both public and private have their own interests. They will not be fixing our problems any time soon.

An interesting piece in the Guardian today, UK independent media group on Trump's attempt to counteract his many legal problems. From observations, I agree with many expressed opinions. The individual does not have a clue about the role of independent justice system as one of the crucial foundations of a functional democracy and is doing all and everything in his power to undermine it - just as he tried with elections. Judges in ongoing cases imposed gag orders on Trump for his attacks on potential witnesses and court officials. “Personal attacks of any member of my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate and I will not tolerate them,” Engoron said. “When you have a former president calling judges corrupt and crooked, it tends to rend the fabric of our society and the judicial system,” said the former New York judge Richard Holwell. “The law and justice system are just a favor bank in Trump world. He’s like a mob boss. For him, a judge is either a lackey in his pocket or his sworn enemy. Trump’s legal and political agendas are fused at this point. His whole strategy is to avoid a reckoning with justice before the election.” Jamie Raskin, DP congressman. “I think that Trump’s comments about the judges are designed for one thing, to create a story that overshadows the allegations,” said Michael Moore, a former Georgia US attorney. “Trump is trying to delegitimize any adverse outcome. It’s remarkably similar to his efforts to delegitimize the election before the votes were even counted.” This is absolutely unprincipled, duplicitous populism of the worst kind. Such an individual is clearly unfit and cannot be a leader of a democratic country.

How would UBI help making use of the labour? What would be the incentive to produce competitive result and what is the cost if nothing is produced? Sounds like a recipe for permanent entrapment into substandard existence. That no one seems to be talking about are two essential questions: Who can make real and maintain a working model of broad prosperity in the society? Governments? I don't think so, for already named reasons. The society has to come up with social models that create and maintain broad prosperity, government handout couldn't replace that. If the range of social models has only a behemoth bureaucracy on one hand; and barely controlled for-profit enterprise on the other, the chance of a miracle solution would be minimal. Secondly, how could such a model be maintained and advanced? Government may have a role in creating positive environment but again it's up to the society to realize it. Cooperatives, community-based economy like kibbutz other forms of shared prosperity, if society wouldn't produce and support them, we're back to the status quo. That is stagnating seemingly in a dead end. Governments cannot produce working solutions the keep and improve the prosperity; large business does not considers it their responsibility and rightfully so. A good answer cannot be found in a false dilemma.

A regular, unconditional handout does not amount to self-respect; accomplishment and meaningful participation. The objective is to maintain stable and broad prosperity via meaningful participation. Collective efforts of the public bureaucracy, the large business and mental laziness of the populace always reduce it to either of the two: - minimal handout that provides neither of the above; or - unrestrained oligarchic capitalism that creates huge disparity in prosperity Handouts fixed no problems: they only move the level of misery; unregulated capitalism solves some problems and creates more. The answer cannot be found in the false dilemma, no matter how many times we try it and how much dough throw at it.

There's a highly successful business model these days: a service is outsourced to a private company; that takes especially from public, huge bucks, pays workers the absolute minimum possible, with minimal benefits and job security, and pockets the rest, to invest in condos, renting them out at an outrageous rate. One can see it pretty much everywhere. Why not cooperatives that could do the same work for less, and pay workers more by cutting on the profit and management hierarchy? That's an interesting question isn't it?

Handouts do not create broad prosperity, only universal misery and further polarization of the society. Bureaucracy succeeded in convincing the society that throwing a lot of public money at it is the key to solving any problems - it even converted to a special jargon, note: not solve the problem by such time according to this criteria, but let's throw at it xyz billions of your money and see what happens. Of course it directly contradicts the observable reality but who can be bothered to notice, right? Who is interested in real solutions that could work here? The bureaucracy, to undermine its story and power or even make it unnecessary, to a large extent? Or the sleeping populace?

And your lying idol admires them? Couldn't hide it, much as he didn't try.

Independent justice is bad, bad bad. Elections are subverted. Courts (that kicked our lying Idol screaming soooo many times) cannot be trusted. What's left? No one's hiding it: Hamas, "very smart" Putin, "genius" Yong Un, "very honorable" It's right before your eyes. See it for what it is, not its lies.

That's an oversimplification but an off-topic here. Is it the eyes? Or reading skills? Did I mention the word, once?

A stable framework of broad and shared prosperity. Elusive as ever? This is a challenge way over the governments level. Governments cannot create broad prosperity they are accountants, bean counters. And the society, isn't that interested.

Liars, demagogues any kind of authoritarian grow and thrive in the environment of fear; mistrust; and chaos. Naturally they try to create social environment, habitat in which they can survive. That's how it was always and forever, nothing new here. You people are nothing without me; you NEED me really; here, I'm talking to you.. do you? please say you do! how could you forget about me?.. no! noooooo!!

The assault on democracy is very real: Russia has been working to undermine the trust in elections globally. If you read maga cult messages here it would be close to 1:1 match. Elections bad; courts cannot be trusted; independent justice system should be dismantled. It doesn't matter if they work on a commission or not, but it's the same purpose: chaos, crisis and downfall of democracy. Now: who would benefit from it? Just look. It's all there, right before your eyes: Hamas: "very smart" Putin: "genius" Jong Un: "very honorable"

Lying clowns really have no clue about an independent justice system. All of their lies are coming into the open these days. One only needs to observe.

Let's not get sidetracked and distracted: Hamas: "very smart" Putin: "genius" Jong Un: "very honorable" Yes or no? How hard should it be? All true and factual. What can be added here? They aren't even trying to hide it. Just observe and understand.

It would be naive beyond belief and dangerously irresponsible to think that even in its current condition the mob would observe any rules, laws and principles. It has attacked democratic institutions physically. It tries to attack and undermine them in the eyes of the citizens daily, as a deliberate ongoing assault on democracy. If the party could not deal with this problem it has created, it may itself become a threat to the democracy.

What is the difference between Hamas and Putin? Maga convert: well, Hamas is "very smart" and Putin, "genius". See? This is factual. Your false fervor will not fool anybody with just a few working cells in the brain. A non-stop lying mob of pathological liars.

Just as the world enters another critical moment with the Axis of Tyrants seeking to overturn all rules and laws and install their rule of chaos and brutal might, GOP faces the ultimate, in my view, quite possibly existential challenge: to return to the principles of democracy and the Constitution; or to convert into an authoritarian personality cult. Nobody is responsible for this condition but them; and no one can find the way out, for them and instead of them. There are no distractions, diversions and procrastination. One can say firm no to lawlessness and authoritarianism. And one can put up with it, give in to it and cower to it. No other ways, absolutely. History showed and taught as much, for those who has a working mind and memory. The decision of the free people to stand up to brutal aggressive dictators three generations back bought no assurances and guarantees that last forever. Only a lease on relatively normal life, for a few generations. The challenge and the choice will return, and has returned. Our choices and actions these days will determine the course of history. And all choices all words and rhetoric will remain in it, for generations to observe and judge.

One Republican: how can you say Putin and Hamas in one sentence? They are so different. A crime, crime! Anathema! A rational individual: OK, how they are different? In what essential way? Both aggressively attacked neighboring country, in violation of all rules, conventions, charters and principles Both have zero respect for human life, rights, and basic morality. Both committed multiple horrific crimes, war crimes and crimes against humanity. Both destroy and kill for no other reason than to create chaos and install their power. How is that different? R.: Well, Hamas is "very smart" and Putin, "genius". There, see! Our great non-stop-lying mob Idol said so! All will be recorded in history - if there will be history; and that's how you will remain in it for generations. Make no mistake. It's well past the time for naive stupidite.

Insanity of the extreme left equals that of the right. Visible and obvious, right here. Be careful: nothing in history and evolution is guaranteed, ever. Three generations back free peoples made the right, obvious choice: to stand up to a horrific, inhuman evil. You can change that by giving them your ear and your mind, instead of using your own values and reason. Easily, as a snap of the fingers. Hamas: "very smart" Putin: "genius" Jong Un: "very honorable" Biden: "under pills bank account" They are the same: identical twins. Just happen to look in the opposite directions.

Not a lie, only the true and only reality: anyone living next door to this kind of a neighbor wouldn't be in their right mind to not join it. Anyone with a grain of sanity can see that in the plain view, unfolding. People have the right to safety and security, protection from aggression and intimidation. Independent people cannot be dictated by criminal psychos what they can and cannot do. Criminal psychos do not get to draw lines and make rules. Their place is in high security prison cells. That's what happens in the normal world that yours is not, quite obviously. According to what you're saying, only the diagnosis.

In my view, in general terms the political situation quite a few parallels. Apart from general social background that is a longer discussion, we have: the conventional political system in a deep limbo: check; no obvious way out or / and forward: looks very much like; populist and increasingly authoritarian sect with no commitment to any principles or truth: yes; with each revolution, the mob raises the degree of the rhetoric and expels moderates converting others into voiceless adepts: in progress as we speak; From here, the current status quo where moderates and dissenters are ostracized and expelled, GOP has exactly two steps left to a fully authoritarian personality cult sect: 1. Dissent is absolutely not tolerated (can't say a word against the leader or be expelled) reality check: only 10% of the GOP caucus aren't voting for the Idol's candidate. 2. Dissent made criminal and persecuted. Is this not an objective view? Worrying.

And now comes the real test. Will Democrats support the interim speaker option if it's put forward?