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Please watch the first 60 seconds of this view for an unfiltered view of the ceremony where 4 dead bodies were returned to Israel. Two of the bodies were of Ariel and Kfir, ages 4 and nine months at the time of their capture. Autopsies revealed that the boys were strangled to death then their bodies were mutilated to make it appear that they died in an air strike. One body was supposed to be of their mother but it was not, it was an unknown person. The fourth body was an 83 year old peace activist. If you are pro-Israel, chances are you already know this and it will not come a much of a surprise. To the anti-Israel people, to the apathetic, and especially to the moderates: does this news surprise you? Does it affect the way that you see this war?

Until they were attacked in 1948, Jews did displace any Arabs. There was and still is plenty of land that can be peacefully shared. Consider the total population of Palestine (Israel + Gaza + West Bank): 1922: 750,000 1947: 1,800,000 today: 15,000,000 Also, Jews, the closest people that are indigenous to the land, for the most part voluntarily. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliyah There were times of relative peace many times in the last 100 years and peace agreements such as the 2000 Camp David Summit were very close to establishing permanent peace. If the Irish can make peace, so can Palestinians.

You implied that one of the causes of the conflict was the growing israeli settlements. Many poeple agree with you, and at one time I did as well. History is clear the root of the conflict is Arab violence (as eloquently stated by your hero Albert Einstein). It is Arab violence and the desire to kill or ethnically cleanse of all Jews from the entire region that is constant throughout history and continues today. This is constant in their words and their deeds. This is constant regardless of settlements, pre-settlements, post-settlements. It does not matter if the left wing labour party rules or not. It would not matter if Israel was ruled by the Dalai Lama, the Arabs would slaughter him and as many Jews as possible.

Lol. When you bring up history it is of great significance, but when history does not fit your narrative "who cares". LOL!

How did that map look from 1948-1967? I wonder why no Palestinian state was created then?

Firstly, Palestinians 100 years ago included jews and others as part of the British empire. Secondly, no one living in that area for centuries ever had the privilege of ruling themselves. Finally, it was a choice to fight and try to rule the whole area, or accept peace and divide the land. Fake news.

Agreed. They should have accepted one of the many peace deals instead of continually trying to drive jews into the sea.

I find that Israeli critics like you are very good at pointing out flaws about Israel, past and present. Consider however the fact that there are 2 million Arabs in Israel, living very peacefully and well overall. Meanwhile there are hundreds of millions of Arabs in surrounding countries that have ethically cleansed the jews from their countries and are aiming to destry israel to rid the ME of jews.

Einstein was critical of fascist elements of Israeli society on 1948, as I'm sure he would oppose thise same elements today. Luckily most israelis also opposed and still oppose those facist elements that are kept on the fringes. Einstein was a Zionist that supported the state of Israel: [Einstein] speaks about the dangers facing Israel and says “It is anomalous that world opinion should only criticize Israel’s response to hostility and should not actively seek to bring an end to the Arab hostility which is the root cause of the tension. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Albert_Einstein#:~:text=Einstein was a prominent supporter,Jews the sense of community. After reading this , I think that both Einstein and MLK would agree about their support for Israel.

I have been to Israel, the West Bank and Egypt. I have spoken to many Arabs and heard their views clearly. It is not fiction that Arabic society kills dissidents, kills homosexuals, and performs FGM. Their desire to kill all Jews is not a fiction either. Well he was as wrong about the Arabs as he was quantum mechanics. I'll go with Martin Luther King.

Millions of people get fooled all the time.

You have been tricked into beleiving that such a Palestinian cause exists.

I have no idea what you mean. I imagine that you are a person that cares about justice and human rights for all. I cannot understand how you can support the Palestinian cause that openly calls for the elimination of Israel. A lot has changed. From 1948 to about 1973 the nation of Israel changed from one of perilous existence to a regional power. Palestinians could have had their own state but they want it all.

If Chad can take in a million refugees, Egypt can too. Although it seems like Trumps "proposal" is having it's desired effect of forcing other countries to help solve the problem https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-countries-scramble-to-offer-trump-an-alternate-proposal-for-post-war-gaza/

Ah, I see, it was reverse psychology, the forcible evacuation of all Jewish settlers from Gaza in 2005 was their way of annexing the territory. Oh, those crafty Jews...

War refugees are a sad reality. My understanding is that Egypt is legally and morally obligated to take in Gazan refugees. They could then apply for residency like the >20 million refugees from wars around the world. https://www.statista.com/statistics/272999/refugees-by-source-country/ Why is this war any different than all the other wars?

🤔 Stange type of apartheid where the minority group (Arabs) are elected, achieve success in any field and there is a complete lack of any israeli-arabs decrying any apartheid. Very different than South Africa, don't you think? Also vert strange that the Palestinian leadership is committing apartheid against Palestinian people. It defies logic, no?

So let me get this straight. First, you confirmed above that there is no apartheid in the country of Israel, right? In the West Bank, you are saying that Israel is working with the Palestinian Authority, and together they are committing the crime of apartheid against Palestinian people, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank The Palestinian Authority controls 55% of the West Bank residents and jointly controls another 41% with the cooperation of Israel. Is the PA complicit in this so-called "Apartheid"?

I looked for the source of that poll but cannot find it. Israeli's want peace.

What is your point?

No, it only takes one aggressor, the the aggressed have a choice to fight back or submit. There are many examples of this type of war, such as Russia-Ukraine, Germany's invasion of Poland, Iraq invading Kuwait. cite, please

What are you talking about? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Europe The Jews were not replacing anyone, they were living alongside, there is plenty of room for the the 14,000,000 inhabitants. There was no expulsion of Arabs until the Arab-Israeli war of 1947-48 when Arabs attacked. Some Arabs yes. And some Arabs came from Arabia after the conquest, and some Arabs are "recent" immigrants from Egypt and other surrounding countries. What's your point?

Israel has consistently wanted peace and would love a feasible two-state solution. The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin 30 years ago is now irrelevant, there have been several peace offers rejected by Palestinians. The majority of Palestinians want a one-state solution where Palestinians rule.

As with quantum mechanics, Einstein was wrong. In 1979 Begin and Sadat signed a peace treaty and for this they were awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.