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It hardly made a blip in our MSM, who are loathe to report a story that supports Jews or exposes anti-Semitism. Of course if it had been widely reported, this forum would have been full of doubting posts claiming a Jewish conspiracy to garner sympathy.

Pot really is the widespread drug, it is the drug of choice, the drug people use...there clearly is a demand for pot and no legal means to fullfill this demand. In a case like this it has allowed for gangs to pop and supply people with pot, not only is it the drug of choice, but I belive gangs with out pot to sell are like a government with out the ability to collect taxes. Keeping Pot illegal, keep sgangs running at full tilt, pot is their source of funding, I think you would find that you would severly hurt gangs if they lost this source of funding. Law Enforcement Agencies also spend alot of time and resources combating these gangs, and combating grow ops. As well Firemen and electrical workers are often brought in when gorw op's go bad. So I belive there is money to be saved there. Then there is money to be earned, unofficially Marijuana is one of B.C's biggest industries an industry the B.C government gets no money from, by legalising Marijuana the B.C government gets a piece of the pot. More money to fund more services. I don't know how to measure the health costs of pot, I really don't know what they are, but whatever they are under prohibition we are already covering the tab for whatever the health problems may be with out recieving any of the obvious monetary benifiets, or recieving the benifiets of being able to allocate police resources better to combat other crimes. I do belive that in the end there are a number of benifiets to be seen in legalising Pot. Not neccasarily because pot can cure every disease ont eh face of the earth, but because we invest so much loose so much, and forfiet so much in a war against a drug that is relatively speaking, harmless. This argument is missing one element: there is no deterent for growing or using it. In Canada the justice system(read: judges) nod and wink at grow op opertors, giving them rarely any jail time. Users get nothing. When the Tories get more prisons built and force manditory sentences for grow operators and dealers, then people will change their behaviour. Simple as that.

FTA lawyer, as someone who has occasionally scanned this thread, part of me can't help but wonder at why you bother to go to such lengths when it seems to be an exercise in futility. You could move the sun and moon for Argus and he still would want to defend child porn. I guess as a lawyer you have more stamina for this than I. I wish I hadn't read those descriptions of child porn in your last post. They are disgusting beyond words and have no place on this forum. I feel sick and would ask that you fellows not include such rubbish in your posts.

Of course, some lefties can't hide their contempt, but Sean Penn has again revealed that the Left is far more capable of unbalanced behavior: he has an Anne Coulter doll that he burns with his cigarettes. I am not making this up. What is it with Lefties and dolls? Remember Parish and her Bush stomping moment? LOL! http://contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mn...doll_27_03_2006

That's the best you could do Bubber? Weak argument and smiley faces? Pay them no mind Bestie. They obviously prefer the loose cannons of the old Liberal government, shooting their mouths off at the Americans. And Gerry, the media SHOULD be the vehicle for accountability, but when they saw little wrong with the Liberals all those years, something smells. When Belinda crossed over, they didn't breathlessly report every little strategy that the recall Belinda people were doing in her riding. In Vancouver, they have been doing that for an entire month now. And the first thing they did when a ferry sunk off the B.C. coast was blame the Liberal gov(actually a conservative gov that the media and unions here detest) . That and other ferries of its vintage have been sailing under all kinds of governments for 40 years, but they blame Gordon Campbell, never a word about over half a billion the NDP under Clark misspent on so called 'fast cat' ferries that had to be retired after 2 years or so. Anyway, with a media like this, it's no wonder Harper wants to be cautious. The media would love to report embarrassing things about the Tories. Love it.

That's the point KK, the November elections are nearing and the proverbial sh#t is poised in front of the proverbial fan. You're saying that because the AG hasn't drawn up an indictment that means Bush didn't act illegaly? Is that seriously your point? we're talking about impeachment. If those proceedings begin, the illegality will be established. The argument by the AG to protect his President thus far is that the Constitution allowed Bush to step outside of lesser laws. We'll see if that holds up. Yes indeed, election season is nearing and as usual, the Dems are trying to gain ground by any means possible. Truth has nothing to do with it when power is at stake.

Uh, this is kind of old news. There's been impeachment talk since before Christmas, mostly by bitter lefties who can't stand a conservative president or want tit for tat retribution on Clinton's attempted impeachment. Now only if they could get actual impeachable activities. Having a war isn't. Having a war based on data that later turns out to be inaccurate isn't.

Yah Jerry I read about this story as well. I'm getting tired of hearing MSM types claiming they are objective in their reporting when they can barely contain their disdain for conservatives. This is why ratings are down year after year. Your average citizen is tired of it too and we are getting our news and info from other sources.

Hmm two wordy responses in a row, someone sounds a little defensive! Why is it whenever pot is brought up in a negative light, pot defenders come out with diatribes on alchohol, like that makes it right. If they're doing it, I get mine. If both users are damaging themselves, how is smoking pot justifiable? It's just a defence mechanism to make you feel better about the brain cells you are killing. Bubber, there's no way you can quantify your brain power before and after you started using, all I can say is you could have been a genius instead of an editor.

Argus, you have waaay too much knowledge of child porn. Just an observation. And on top of it, you've made yourself a defender of sorts of this wackjob cousin of the porn 'family'. Most child porn is 30 years old? On what basis can you make that claim? Do you study child porn? At any rate, this thread was about the child porn ring in Edmonton where the nutjob pervert was raping an 18 month old baby for web viewers. This disease needs to be surgically removed from our society. If a few toes have to be stepped on, so be it.

Wow, I'm surprised thelonius, that you read anything from Mark Steyn!! Yes we shouldn't copy another story, but Jerry used quotation marks, and referred to the story he was reading. Anyway, the point remains, if this guy was wearing a collar(priest) he would have been spashed all over the front pages, since it's another guy with Mohammad in his name, he gets the benefit of the doubt, even though he admits he wanted to hit as many bodies as he could.

Still waiting for gerryhatrick to weigh in on this bit of news with his usual love in attitude for Harper...

Yes it is that easy. We are talking about what the bible teaches on murder vs what the Koran teaches. You, nocrap, are not. However, to address your point, Bush is not promising a special reward in Heaven(like 72 virgins) for those who kill infidels. Muslim leaders are. Bush and the U.S. government are not in Iraq to kill non christians or force Christianity on the Iraqi population. They are there because they believe Iraq was a major base for terrorism in the world. If they are right or wrong, that is not the point here. Only that they are not over there promising U.S. citizens 72 vigins in Heaven if they kill infidels.

Four drinks a week for ten years will not damage your health. Four joints a week for ten years will. So, no, I don't think we should make booze illegal.

The main reason the MSM is pretty much silent on this is they are still busy digging and researching to discredit as much of this stuff as they can. Since these documents support Bush, the MSM will move heaven and earth to put a negative spin on it. Have patience Monty, they will soon finish their work and the propaganda machine will swing into action.

No, you should simply compare the actions of followers of the Muslim faith regarding murder in comparison with actions of Christians in regards to murder. Apparently you are unable to do that. Why don't you bring up Sampson, Saul, Jacob, Isau, and dozens of others. The bible is full of people who made mistakes and screwed up. It still doesn't change the bible's teaching on murder vs the Koran, whether you know it or not.

The really blatent anti-Americanism started when the US invaded Iraq - I noticed a disturbing change in the public discourse around that time. The same thing happened in almost every democratic country in the world which suggests the change was not caused by something unique to Canada. This is exactly the change I noticed around the time the Iraq war started. I agree that being hostile towards an entire country because of the actions of a near lunatic chief executive is not called for. However, Americans should ask themselves, if their foriegn policy can provoke such a reaction in a culturally similar country like Canada then it is should not be surpising how people react in the Islamic world. I noticed blatant anti-Americanism when 9/11 happened. Plenty of Canadians and others were saying the U.S. had it coming instead of being sympathetic to a friend in a time of need.

I live and work in B.C. and in the last 2 months I've had 3 companies contact me wondering if I'd like to work for them. The economy in B.C. is humming, I don't need the Fraser Institute to tell me that. Look up any stats from Stats Canada or elsewhere, western Canada is outpacing the east. I know it's good news, but you don't have to choke on it just because it's from the Fraser Institute.

They just permanently cripple them by shooting off their kneecaps (a common practice in northern Ireland) or just shoot them with a rifle. Is rather hypocritical to think that all Muslims should be blamed for the actions of zealots yet you insist that every 'Christian' radical that uses violance is not really a Christian. Sparhawk, you can't get around the main point, that the Koran teaches its okay to kill infidels and get a heavenly reward, while the Bible teaches that murder is wrong. The Irish were not fighting for eternal reward, but for independence from Great Britian. They did not expect to get 72 virgins for every English soldier they killed. Muslims expect to get rewarded in Heaven for killing infidels. And this is their current belief, not as the Bible with laws from the old testament that no longer are followed. And you have no answer for how Muslims treat gays, abortionists and pornographers compared to other countries.

I heard about this study on a radio news broadcast this morning and thought it would make a good topic, although I can hear the dissenters already! This study examined three groups of people: those who had smoked at least 4 joints a week for ten years, for five to ten years, and those who had only smoked 20 joints, and not in the last 2 years. The results are alarming. The group that had used for over ten years did quite poorly on memory tests as well as decision making tests and learning new information. The 5 to 10 year group were in the middle but were both out performed by the non users. Here's the link: http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/06..._pot_brain.html I think the best course of action is just to avoid substances that damage your brain function. Legalizing this stuff is not a good idea.

Really? Please explain these quotes from Exodus 21: Seems to me that killing someone for swearing at his parents is pretty excessive. Of course, you will probably respond with something about how good Christians ignore the parts of the bible that don't make any sense. If you are honest with yourself you will acknowledge that the Christian bible can be perverted to justify evil things just like the Quran can. The same passage goes on to talk about an eye for a eye and a tooth for tooth - the wonderful phrase that can be used to justify almost anything if you believe you have been wronged in some way. When Christian groups feel they have no other choice to achieve their ends they will kill and justify it with Christian teachings. In the last generation or so those killings have been limited to abortion doctors and about anyone in Northern Ireland. However, the relatively low numbers of religious murders in Christian societies compared to Muslim societies does not make Christianity any better than Islam - 2000 years of bloody history prove otherwise. If you want to explain why so many Muslims today seem to be willing to resort to violence today then you must look for explanations other than religion. The primary cause of the violence is a deep seated resentment towards the wealth and power of the 'western' societies. This resentment would likely be there no matter what the 'west' did because the backward nature of Muslim societies is not the fault of the west, Rather, it has been largely caused by Muslims refusing to learn from their neighbors like many other cultures (e.g. the Japanese) have done/are doing. That said, American foreign policy during the last 50 years has certainly made a bad situation worse. I'd be happy to explain those verses from Exodus. Those were the laws the Jews lived by in somewhere around 2000 B.C. Those laws were replaced a long time ago. They don't sacrifice animals anymore either. In the New Testament, Jesus refers to the eye for an eye teaching and responds that his followers should offer the other cheek when one side of their face gets slapped instead. Even then, however, those old teachings did not promise 72 virgins in heaven for killing. They were capital punishment laws, which are still in place in many parts of the world, including Muslim ones, which also have current laws that order the cutting off the hand of a thief. As for Ireland, again, they were not killing in obedience to biblical teaching that promised rewards in heaven. Just more garden variety hatred and racism. Muslims are free to kill infidels because their religion teaches it. Resenment of Western countries or refusing to learn from their neighbors is a direct result of their religion! On other threads we talk about abortion, gay issues and porn. Any guess what their governments do to abortion docs, gays and pornographers in Muslim countries? In Canada and the U.S., which you seem to think is Christian, the government does nothing.

There is an element here who are getting defensive about porn. There are very CLEAR laws about porn in Canada and you have no need to worry. But it appears some of you are almost reluctant to condemn child porn out of fear one day adult porn may be taken off the menu. Why are you worrying about this when our porn laws have been going the opposite way since porn has been allowed? It's okay to condemn kiddie porn and hope the guilty get sentences!! But this case is not about child porn so much is it is about child RAPE. Anyone who rapes an 18 month old baby needs to be punished severely as a deterent to others who would grab a kid off the street. I can't understand why there is so much concern about the criminal and so little about the victims.

Uh, show me what christian org has access to smart bombs. The U.S. gov is not a Christian organizaiton, Focus on the Family is. I hope you are not so niave to think that just because Bush, a Christian, is president that it makes the entire government somehow 'Christian'. There are no nations that have God as the deity leader. Again, the Muslim religion teaches to kill infidels for heavenly reward. Christianity teaches its wrong to murder for any reason. If you won't admit this is true, Sparhawk, it doesn't lessen the truth of it.

"Jeezus H". You can't be serious, you discredit yourself further. Do you have any examples of such arguments from Harper, or are you expecting us to just take your word for it? No, no Geoffrey, you don't get it. It was in the MEDIA, see? That means it has to be true. And since they keep musing in the MEDIA that Harper is as far right as that wing nut Bush, then logic would dictate that Harper does pretty much the same things as Bush. It's sooo cleeaarrrr. Hey hatrick, here's a challenge for you: find a story in the media that says Bush likes to bark like a dog, then start several threads with slightly varying titles to give the impression of differing topics. Extra marks for pictures.

People sure have short memories. The U.S. is not 'suffering' from out spending the Soviets in the cold war, the U.S. deficit is a direct result of 9/11 when they were going through a recession and then got clobbered with the planes. There was wide spread fear and their economy almost went into a depression. That is why they lowered the interest rate again and again to the point of 40 and 50 year record lows. The only thing they could do was spend their way out of it. The sliding U.S. dollar is also a result of it and their economy may never eclipse its former highs. As to the U.S. being world cops, they are fading in impact. North Korea taunts them. Iran rattles sabres. China ignores them and damages the U.S. economy by pirating consumer products and reverse engineering technology. The U.S. is on the wane and the barbarians are at the gates just like in Roman times. And the barbarians will not give a rip about human rights or silly things like free speech.