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Dion's "Liberal Green Shift" carbon tax Plan
SamStranger replied to madmax's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Well...if we are going to attack Stephen Harper's "approach to any policy challenge", then let's look at the facts. Fact: Liberals champion them selves as Environmentalists, and the ideal party to curb Global Warming. Fact: Under the Liberals Green House Gas Emissions rose by nearly 33% Fact: Stephane Dion has been "celebrated as a hero", or so he says Fact: The Left-Wing Liberals have no policy to lower Green House Gas Emissions...what they do have is a NEW TAX. The Left has always been about raising taxes, or introducing new taxes. If Dion really cared about the high taxation of Canada then why doesn't he lower income taxes without bringing in a new tax. The truth is he doesn't care about Canadians. He is a "Peterson" style Tax-and-Spend doctrine follower. All the Liberals know is how to tax us. Here a tax. There a tax. My God, as John Lennon said they would even try to "tax our feet". Liberals...is there anything they won't tax? -
Tories new attack ads on carbon tax
SamStranger replied to myata's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Well...if we are going to attack Stephen Harper's "approach to any policy challenge", then let's look at the facts. Fact: Liberals champion them selves as Environmentalists, and the ideal party to curb Global Warming. Fact: Under the Liberals Green House Gas Emissions rose by nearly 33% Fact: Stephane Dion has been "celebrated as a hero", or so he says Fact: The Left-Wing Liberals have no policy to lower Green House Gas Emissions...what they do have is a NEW TAX. The Left has always been about raising taxes, or introducing new taxes. If Dion really cared about the high taxation of Canada then why doesn't he lower income taxes without bringing in a new tax. The truth is he doesn't care about Canadians. He is a "Peterson" style Tax-and-Spend doctrine follower. All the Liberals know is how to tax us. Here a tax. There a tax. My God, as John Lennon said they would even try to "tax our feet". Liberals...is there anything they won't tax? -
Yes, they did raise the Lowest Income Tax bracket by .5%, but they lowered it back to 15% in their latest budget. Child Care is terrible policy? I suppose you support Socialist Day Care...where parents have their children raised by strangers. Canada has become such a welfare state, it's disgusting. ALL our money should NOT go to the damn government!!! If we had more money in our pockets, we could spend for ourselves- whether it be Health Care, or Day Care. I do not support this Socialist argument of the State raising our children. Before we know it there will be little Jack Layton's walking around!! (Scary thought)
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In my opinion, I see Tory policies as being more in line with traditional Canadian values. Cutting the GST by 2%...who's going to complain about that while there buying that brand new Hummer? The Left always follow policies that will benefit the Left, not Canadians as a whole. The Progressive Conservative Party was always about uniting. Joe Clark, Brian Mulroney, Stephen Harper all follow the principle of standing up for all Canadians, regardless of personal interest. This is why populism is great. If the majority of the populous clearly wants to be governed a certain way, they deserve to be governed rightfully. If I am casting my ballot for a Conservative candidate, and a Liberal Majority wins- that should not give them a free ride to bring in their narrow minded left wing/socialist agenda. Good governance should trump political interests. To prove my point, I find it suspicious how the NDP and Bloc are able to pass there private Members bill threw 3rd reading, with support of Liberals of course. Let's go back to the 90's, when the Reform Party had official opposition status. I cannot recall the NDP or Bloc, or the Liberals, helping them get their Private Members bills through. Why...??? The Left supports the left. They believe that political interest in better then good policy.
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Good policy is good policy. I don't understand why the Liberal party attacks the Conservatives as being, so called "Ideological" and "Right Wing", when they are simply proposing generally good policy. Lowering Taxes and reducing spending is good policy. Why does the Left resist the Progressive Tory policy's of the 21st century? The old Peterson days of the Tax-and-Spend doctrine proved to be disastrous. Why do Liberals stick to this narrow, 20th century mind frame!
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I don't think Governments have the right to bring in Massive Tax Hikes, period. They should learn to cut their spending or invest more strategically to come up with more money. The average tax payer is sick and tired of Governments increasing spending, and then crying when the well runs dry. Lower spending=no new taxes. LOW spending=cutting taxes NO spending=NO TAXES!
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Borg, I appreciate your comments, and it is very refreshing to hear some wisdom on this board for once. Thanks for the heads up on "GC", he/she is clearly a Liberal and will support Dion's policies no matter what they are.
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You avoiding my argument simply shows your lack of knowledge on this issue. Most experts agree there is no such thing as Revenue Neutral tax shifting. But there is something called a TAX HIKE! This is clearly a tax hike and Canadians will pass their judgment in the upcoming election.
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Wow...u are either naive or stupid. Liberals. Were talking Liberals. Liberals have never met a tax they don't like. You believe Stephane will give an Income Tax cut of $100 a month... simply absurd. Even if they gave Income Tax rebates it would never amount to that much. A Carbon tax, on the other hand, could easily cost $100 a month on your heating/hydro and gasoline.
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Wow...I can laugh at this one. I suppose you would like to defend the "tax shifting" that went on in the 1994 budget...when the GST was NOT abolished as was promised? Conservatives have dismissed Tax shifting as a complete hoax. How does it make sense to pay $100 more a month on fuel and heating, but save $15 on income tax. What a sham.
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Interview with Honourable Stéphane Dion
SamStranger replied to Greg's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Mr. Dion: It's been nearly 90 years since the "War Measures Act", and since Prime Minister Borden introduced Income Tax in Canada. Will a Liberal Government ever move in the direction of repealing/abolishing Income Tax altogether, and if not why? -
As the Liberal Leadership convention drew to a close, the remaining three candidates clearly came from each point of the political triangle. On the left was Bob Rae. A former socialist democrat who followed the 'tax and spend' doctrine which nearly crippled Ontario's economy. On the right was Michael Ignatieff. This former Harvard professor supported George Bush's invasion of Iraq, and apparently didn't "lose any sleep" over Israel's war with Hezbollah. And in the middle was Stephane Dion. Clearly a moderate Liberal who voted against Same-Sex Marriage twice. The Liberal delegates made their choice: Mr. Centre, Stephane Dion. Since becoming leader, Mr. Dion was clearly shifted him self more to the left, aligning him self with most of his caucus. A self proclaimed "hero", Stephane champions the environment and his record as environment minister. The left has always been more environmentally friendly. Though...it is note worthy to mention that Green House Gases rose by nearly 33% under the Liberals in the '90s. Carbon Tax...? Mr. "Hero" now believes the best way to save the environment is to impose a new tax on all Canadians, including business and industry. Already hard hit is the manufacturing sector with thousands of job loses. Could Stephane possibly believe that a new tax will help solve this crisis? And what about Seniors on fixed incomes? Surely they cannot afford another regressive tax. Then there is the lowest earners and the middle class. Already hard hit by the highest Income Tax rates in the developed world, the poor and the middle class do not need another tax forced upon them. With gasoline prices at record levels, could Canadians possibly support a new tax that will drive their heating bills through the roof? Not a chance... This is a stunt. This is a sham. The Liberals are planning on losing the next election. They pray that the Tories will only win another Minority Government, giving the Liberals time to head into another leadership race, where Mr. Left and Mr. Right will duke it out for the top job. The Carbon Tax will fall off the table and Stephane will be forgotten. He will grace history's pages as being one of the few Liberal leaders who did not become Prime Minister. It's a shame when a National party which dates back nearly 150 years has to resort to these games. I thank God every day I am not a Liberal.
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Wow...I'm back! If any one remembers me Im the super Conservative dude that used to always put down Layton and praise Harper. Man I haven't been on in a year or so! Anyways...back to business. Does any one know the history of the PST in Ontario? Which government brought it in...what year, what party ect. And why is it at a whopping 8%??? Was it always that high?? And how come it is never a campaign issue...such as the GST in 2006?? You would think the PC party would be in favor of lowering it...unless they brought it in originally?? Anyways, your help would be great! Thanks guys! I'm Back!
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Wow...I'm back! If any one remembers me Im the super Conservative dude that used to always put down Layton and praise Harper. Man I haven't been on in a year or so! Anyways...back to business. Does any one know the history of the PST in Ontario? Which government brought it in...what year, what party ect. And why is it at a whopping 8%??? Was it always that high?? And how come it is never a campaign issue...such as the GST in 2006?? You would think the PC party would be in favor of lowering it...unless they brought it in originally?? Anyways, your help would be great! Thanks guys! I'm Back!