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Well that's sort of true, there's nothing to win. The facts are right there. A couple could buy a home with an average income and live in it in 2015 well within what the banks consider 'affordable'. That's a simple fact. Amazingly, however, you somehow managed to lose A grade 7 dropout walking me through calculations gives me little incentive to argue with an id1ot. The fact is that housing was also unaffordable in Metro Vancouver when your hero was PM in 2015. Go find another subject to show your lack of understanding 🤡 We already went over why that's a lie when it comes to affordability. The price of a nice starter home suitable for a family of 4 in vancouver at that time was just over 300 thosuand And i posted the average wage. I posted the proof. LOL - what impresses me about you is that despite your stupid being pointed out to you you are never afraid to double down on the stupid in 2015 and even 2016 you could buy a nice home in most parts of the GVRD for less than 33 percent of the average household income and it would be big enough to raise a family. Simple fact. LOLOL you're freaking hilarious This is what happens when you run your life on confirmation bias

I posted the data and went through it with you step by step. This isn't theoretical. In 2015 a young family could own a home comfortably well below the 33% of income level that is considered acceptable and also food and expenses were considerably cheaper as a percentage of their income Those are simple facts. Now you're making vague and unsupported statements because you know you have failed If you have to lie to make your point you don't have a good point. So is al so as always my question is why do you feel the need to lie like this? Life was quite affordable in 2015. Honestly wasn't that bad in 2016 and even 2017 was still borderline. Then it kept getting worse and by today it's pretty unaffordable to live in Canada Unless you are well above the average in You can't argue this, I walked you through the calculations. This is cut and dry and now you're crying and pooping yourself instead of dealing with it like a man.

They both hated jews, they both hated gays, they both wanted to steal land that wasn't theirs, they both slaughtered innocent civillians on purpose and both wanted to commit a genocide. Was it THAT much of a stretch?

why would that be the 'good thing'? You're just bleating out anything that pops into your head The facts are clear. IN 2015 people could afford to buy a home and live in it on modest incomes. Today they can't. Not relevant. ALL homes includes luxury homes and large estates that aren't a factor in 'affordability'. You don't need a 10 bedroom house on an acre to live "affordably". So, what would a 3 br home have cost? "In 2015, the benchmark price for a townhome in Metro Vancouver (specifically in the Fraser Valley board area) was approximately $302,600 in June 2015." So. 302k Not 760 k. That's the kind of cheezy lie you libs love isn't it A person in 2015 could get a good quality townhome with three bedrooms, small yard, decent amount of greenspace and frequently a play area for kids for somewhere around 300, 400 k depending on how nice and what part of town. The average household income was 65 k. So for a place that was worth 350k which is definitely towards the nicer end, you'd have a downpayment of about 17500. that wouldn't have been hard to save up. mortgage of about 1650. That's 30 percent of income, that's the literal definition of affordable. Plus food was cheaper as a percent of income and so were a lot of other things. SO, when we remove your lies we see that for a young couple starting out it was QUITE affordable to buy a home large enough to raise an above average sized family (the birth rate was already well below 2 kids per female). Average cost of a three-bedroom townhome Metro Vancouver 2015 - Google Search ANd that was the end of harpers term, all through his term things were even MORE affordable Sowwy kid, you just got your ass handed to you. But i love that you think if someone can't afford mansions in the british props life isn't "affordable' LOL nice try

Awww, i made you have another hissy fit Well that's certainly not hard is it.

Looks like he's going to do pretty well in the midterms. You're not going to be able to throw them out. So we'll see

Admit defeat and prove me right And you did! Sorry, i forgot spelling mistakes send you into a tail spin LOOOOZZER!!! LOZER LOZERLLLLOOOOOZER! LOL and you prove me right again I accept your admission of defeat Sure does, that's why you feel the need to reply and why it sends you into these little emotional is he fits you have Kid, as i've told you, everyone looks down on you. You can choose to be better than that if you wish just like I outlined for you. And you really should think about that

Be thankful you weren't around for the period he went through where he posted nothing but ass porn when he got angry Yikes Well there's not much to stop him now that he's got his majority. Why are they complaining? They got all those new trees didn't they!?!?!

It was three words, if they confused you I don't know what to say other than your English teacher owes you an apology It's pretty easy. I'm fabulous so I'm great company Well you're wrong, but you must be used to that by now. There's tons of people I talk to, I mostly come here for people like you. It's hard to find as many people even on other forums letter is daft as people like you and Robo and X flyer etc. I don't really come here to talk for the most part, I come here to laugh at the freaks. There are some good people and some good conversations to be had but for the most part your entertainment, you're not intellectually stimulating Response to the very legitimate issues I raised was a picture of a monkey banging symbols together posted 20 different times That's funny to watch, like a cat chasing a laser pointed

Once again you admit to feed improve me right with your reply You should actually think about what I said. It is the absolute truth. You don't have to reply or agree or anything along those lines, no one's looking for a mea culpa from you. But if you would realize the truth of what I'm saying and think about your behavior you could go from being a laughing stock here to being at least somewhat respected. That's going to be important to you as you move forward in life

Well he does so he should probably get used to it and make peace with it somehow but I would argue that pointing out a failure of policy doesn't automatically mean that your party is useless. You can admit to a failure and look at how they could do things differently without somehow having your entire belief in the party collapse if your belief is healthy to begin with I have heard you criticize conservative positions, I myself have criticized many and even said what I think poilievre has done right and wrong, Not to mention what harper did write him wrong, and I don't feel that that undermines my support for both harper and the CPC and Poilievre So I'm not sure why his brain collapses at the mere thought of finding any fault whatsoever when it's so obvious that it exists Yeah honestly just don't get it. I have in the past scoffed at west can man and others when they have suggested that the liberals are a cult but there are definitely days when it's hard to think of them as anything but

I guess that's your way of saying you don't have a rebuttal GOSH @Goddess, I CAN"T DISAGREE WITH YOU SO I'M GOING TO PLAY WITH MY CLUB AND BALLS!" Yeah, hell of a 'flex' there kiddo

He's not in power. Why would you think he would be able to do anything if he's not in power This job is literally to say what the liberals have done wrong. That's what opposition does "STOOOPID PP KEEPS DOING HIS OWN JOB INSTEAD OF THE LIBERALS JOB!! WHAT A JERK! DERP!" Yeash guy. At least he forced the liberals to give a break on gas tax right now

For investment didn't have anything to do with it and as a matter of fact provincial governments absolutely do have the authority to block foreign investors and in fact British Columbia did that for a time. So you are 100% wrong, the provinces absolutely can both tax and shut down for an investment if they wish But our problem wasn't for an investment. For a. Of time our problem was money laundering which added at least 5 to 10% to the value of our market every year and then it was the other problems that have affected everywhere. Too much immigration, not enough building, too much municipal rape and pillage of Developers, downward pressure on the economy and upward pressure on other inflationary forces None of this is terribly complicated but there's no doubt with the Gregory Robertson played a role

Nothing. That's the problem for you. I actually understand what it's saying and you don't In addition as I pointed out the numbers are wrong and I posted correct ones with an actual link to the source. It's extremely clear that a family of four could find a place to live in Metro Vancouver that was within the budget of the people of the time and raise a family. And in fact they did. There was upper pressure on affordability but it was certainly not a crisis or unaffordable at that point at all Fast forward and since about 2019 it has become truly unaffordable. And a higher and higher percentage of people are no longer able to afford to live as people did in 2015 or 2000 or earlier. And we can point to the policies that actually made it worse and started to cripple affordability. It's not like I'm just pointing at the liberals and saying that because their flag was flying at the time magically they're at fault. We know why affordability began to suffer . I get that this upsets your narrative but I'm afraid that most of our serious affordability problems have happened more recently than you think, probably starting around 2017 and 2018 that things started to become actually unaffordable and certainly by 2019 it was a crisis. Covid made things worse and the liberals never recovered from covid, they just overspent and refuse to address the issues that needed to be addressed and affordability became the absolute crisis we see today Why do you feel the need to lie about this?

Kid there are maybe three posts a year that you make where I and anyone else looks at them and says well at least it was a valid comment or argument. And I'm being a little generous with that number. There are many many thousands of posts where everybody looks at them and says what a waste of time and space this guy is. LUUUZER LUUUUUUUUZER BLAH BLAH!!! That sums up about 90 percent of your posts in their entirety. And literally all you do is argue for the sake of arguing. And I don't even mean debating, all you do is freak out against anyone who disagrees with you and demand that they are losers and so on and so forth like a child having a hissy fit I would love to see you and quite frankly more people on the left actually making intelligent arguments on this forum. As it is it's more like a petting zoo for those of us who have a brain to come and have a laugh at the monkeys jumping around and flinging their feces at themselves. They used to be one or two people that could put up a decent argument from the left but honestly even they are calling it in these days Why don't you try to live up to what you claim. Why don't you try and actually make intelligent well thought out arguments and when somebody comes back with a counter argument don't freak out and poop your pants. Deal with the counter argument, concede valid points and contest points where you feel you can make a rational rebuttal. Is that really so much to ask? It's another example of one of your valid and thought out comments that demonstrates how you don't argue just for the sake of arguing? LLLOOOZER!!!! I WIN!! that's your entire argument in most of your posts

Proof i'm wrong?

LOL kiddo making a post that is time wasting and stupid and then trying to blame your time wasting and stupid post on me somehow is both stupid and a waste of time. Fact is the stoopid usually comes from your side. People on the right here tend to make solid and reasoned arguments, and people like you tend to make.. well.. posts exactly like you did. Then the rest of us stop to laugh at you and the thread is off the rails. So, the answer to your question of why there's so much stoopid is staring at you in your mirror. Be smarter, the rest of us already are. That's not actually what a pivot is That's actually mockery. I'm mocking your reply because it is obviously not intended in good faith or as an honest actor, it's this weirdly dramatic senseless post with bizarre punctuation and spacing that I guess is supposed to make it more meaningful because the words don't You shouldn't use words you don't understand Whenever you make an actual point or try and make at least a decently formed argument even if it's wrong I usually reply to you with an intelligent response addressing your points but when you act like the 3-year-old you get treated like a 3 year old.

LOL well considering you're wrong and i'm right that's not a bad idea for you But the truth remains, and it is something that should be discussed and considered. Not even for partisan reasons but to look at how we got here. You're obviously always going to be liberal, no matter what. But looking at what liberals have done wrong in the past might at least give you a chance to help guide future liberal policy to avoid the worst pitfalls. It was quite affordable. Sorry but i posted the facts that prove that. People could buy a nice place to live in one of the major parts of greater vancouver for a modest price and keep within 33 percent of their income and raise kids. They could do that. Today they can't. ROFLMAO!!!!!!! Sure kid, this board is FULL of posts about me going on about how great inflation is LOLOLOL You get so weird when you think you've 'lost'. Honestly. The seeds for future problems existed in harper's day and harper himself was concerned about it. But they had not yet come to flower. Justin ran on a platform of making sure they were taken back under control and housing remained affordable in 2015. look how that turned out.

Not to mention these days the anti facists are all fascists.

A tiny bit gloomy perhaps but certainly within the Realms of possibility I'll offer another possible alternative, not saying this is guaranteed but just as a thought experiment I think he knows in order to get anything in the slightest from the united states he's going to have to give up supply management and possibly one or two other sacred cows. I think he knows that is going to be death in quebec for a while So I think he deliberately avoided any negotiations until he either had a majority or if necessary called an election and scooped a majority that way. Now that he's got his majority if he does have to give up some sacred cows and take a bad deal Quebec and others will have 3 years to calm down and forget he completely trashed their economies. The auto sector workers will all find new jobs or starve to death or accept maid as an option in accordance with the liberal health policy, and all he has to worry about is doing something flashy in the last year and point out that no matter how bad it is everything would have been EVEN WORSE under the CPC to try and win back the support of the people. That's why he hasn't been negotiating. He knows it's going to be a bad deal and he just wanted to find a way to get a majority before he had to face that and tell canadians he screwed them.

Not really and in fact again you have provided the proof that your arguments isn't correct strangely As you can see from your chart detached houses, a house with a big yard, traditional sort of thing, went up significantly but that's because manufacturing and the market switched more to Townhomes and apartment buildings especially in the large metros. This drove the price of the holdouts who still had homes and houses in those areas considerably higher but it was still very easy for a family of four to purchase a nice townhome with nice facilities and room for all at an affordable price By the way your church is wrong. Townhomes and apartments were actually less than that by a fair margin. Here's an example Average price of a townhome in Canada in 2015 - Google Search In 2015, the average price of a townhouse in Canada varied significantly by region, but in high-demand areas like the Fraser Valley , the benchmark price for a townhouse was approximately $321,800 in December 2015. In Metro Vancouver , the benchmark for an attached unit was slightly higher, reaching $506,900 by June Vancouver was one of the most expensive markets there was at the time. So to suggest that the average price was $600,000 or more is simply incorrect.. In 2015 500,000 bought you a very nice modern well-maintained townhome suitable for raising a family That same town home today, just 10 years later, is Closer to a million and a half. That's seriously hard for people to afford. The average including smaller towns and suburbs rose to 650,000 by 2025 So back in 2015 if you were earning a modest income you could afford to buy a very nice townhouse which would be easily suitable for raising two children even within a major metro like vancouver. And even back then people weren't having many more than two children. Nowadays A young couple would not be able to afford that townhouse at all even with both of them working in most cases unless they have above average incomes. Even in the sticks it would be hard. And that really does highlight the affordability issue. In 2015, it wasn't hard for a family just starting out to find a place that was relatively centrally located, that was perfect for raising a kid at an affordable price, and live happily. Now even with both partners working at good jobs it's barely affordable. Now, on top of that you add the food price challenges. Back in 2015 it was nothing to go into the store and grab a pack of steaks for dinner. Now you need to fill out a loan application There was pressure on affordability in 2015 but it really wasn't that bad. It would have been hard for some to have the great big four bedroom detached house that they may have grown up in but they could certainly live well and affordably in most areas. Now that's just not true and even managing to afford a small cramped one bedroom is a chore Smartest thing you've said on the forum in weeks

You upset does not require intelligence, it only requires a single fact or intelligent comment to send you spiraling off the deep end And a guy who just repetatively posts "LLUUUUUUZER LUUZER LUZERLUZERLUZER" for a half dozen pages is not qualified to say if someone's intelligent or not Kid everyone on this form laughs at you when you're like this. I'm trying to defend it just makes you look worse LOL

And you're Spacing Your comments..... like a person with serious mental health Issues.