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Considering your track record so far of the parties you support you're not really qualified to talk about other parties like the CPC The CPC did amazing when they were in power and we had one of the world's best economies given the world economic downturn caused by the democrats in the states and their housing bubble. Your gov't has driven Canada into the ground and the damage is generational. Kid, you don't get to say who's a useless loser, you're the poster boy.

Dude in my post right around the same time i put in FIVE links to stats proving my point precisey. And despite YOUR data as well as mine and all the links involved he's still here demanding there's no links. This isn't a rational person.

Which is exactly why carney isn't moving quickly. He knows if he waits a bit then the market conditions won't be right and then he can throw the doors open and nobody will come anyway. He doesn't want anything built he just wants people to think he wanted something built

That was amazing

LOL ahh starting off with an insult that's actually an admission of your own failings, That's your signature way of admitting you know you're wrong Love to see it I gave you dozens and did the math for you. More than once. I even gave you proof looking at it from different ways. On top of it west can gave you some proof and a couple of other people. Not to mention the fact that I drew proofs from your own links And in fact I'll do so again right now from your own link: The two main exceptions are Vancouver and Toronto where high and rising prices make it a stretch for a typical household to own a home at today’s market values,especially in the single-detached segments (the bar on condo ownership is comparatively much less of a hurdle My claim was that Vancouver was expensive but affordable. Your own link says that it was a stretch to afford a detached home but a nice townhouse or condo was much less of a hurdle. He stretch is not unaffordable. It just means it's expensive. And Townhomes, which is what I specifically mentioned. We're much more affordable You literally just proved me right. Vancouver was expensive but affordable I provided you with actual hard numbers and actual definitions and many many links, you provide one and it still proves me right Kid, you and Robo Smith are in an absolute race to see who's the dumbest person on this board and you've got everyone else lapped.

If only. There's nothing conservative about carney other than what he says. But i love that you, who support the ndp who kept these guys in power for no reason as it turns out, and you who support the liberals constantly, want to pretend that the problem is 'conservatives' LOLOL

Very true. And the problem is they will defend that position even though they had no logic or facts to derive it in the first place against all comers. If I say something and someone challenges it I generally go do a bit of reading and make sure that I'm on the right side of the facts before I continue. But they are not burdened by that kind of thinking. They just continued defending their point even in the face of facts and reason that proves that they were wrong to begin with. And I see you upset poor Exflyer, he's making his rounds doing his little "I'm really mad" downarrow thing

And the good times keep on coming Canada's economy dropped 18,000 jobs in April as unemployment rose to 6-month high | CBC News So we lost a tonne of jobs in January, a CRAP tonne of jobs in February, gained a small amount back in march and just lost ALL of those and then some. And they're predicting things will get worse. This is just Justin Trudeau 2.0. Things are no better under carney than they were under Justin

I think it's cute. Like those little kits we used to buy the kids where they could dress up and run around pretending they were a real doctor and the like Well of course I'm not one to speak about the first part being mildly dyslexic and having my voice dictation actively fight me half the time But the second part is certainly a something I would agree with 100%. It's disappointing to see how low the reasoning is. Not to pick on him but as an example linksoul was arguing the other day that life in vancouver was unaffordable in 2015. And as "proof" he made a claim about the cost of a house (turned out to be wrong but that's not the point. ) Now, a person trained to think AT ALL would realize that the cost of a house is meaningless UNLESS you also look at the wages people were earning. If people in vancouver were earning an average of 200k a year that's quite affordable if they were earning 10 k a year that's not. But it never even occurred to him that you need BOTH figures to work out what's affordable. That's SO basic, like 1st year university basic. How can you say if something's affordable without looking at how much people can afford? And we see that kind of sloppy thinking constantly. It really actually bothers me that there's such a lack of basic reasoning and logic skills

Oh I love this part! This is the part where you know I'm right and you're going to try and change the argument in the most ridiculous possible fashion so you look less stupid LOLOL Nice try kid but you just embarrassing yourself. Many of our elected officials have commented on american elections and met with members of a proposition parties and such and will likely continue to do so. In no universe is that anything remotely close to election interference and you are absolutely stupid for trying to defend it as such. Grow up, you may not be the smartest person on the board but you're certainly smarter than that. If a government starts putting money into one of the organizations then that's interference. If they send people to infiltrate those organizations or the like then that's interference. Commentary is not interference and in fact this issue was examined in depth when john Oliver claimed to be flouting a Canadian law which forbids foreign interference by demanding everyone vote for the liberals during an election and demanding that Canada come arrest him. It was explained at the time but this isn't actually what is considered to be interference. You get these ideas in your head and you defend them to the death even though they are not supportable by the facts and you really need to stop doing that. When you apply yourself you're not a bad thinker and it's disappointing to see you behaving in this fashion. You're not Robo Smith for God's sake

No deal was necessary to begin with. You're actually beginning to realize the truth. And actually the feds would have done vastly more good with vastly less money by just augmenting funding to the existing programs This was about optics. This was about the appearance of the trudeau government making things better for Canadians when it wasn't for the NDP to look like they were getting something for their blind subservience to the liberal cause which they didn't This was never about benefiting Canadians and was completely unnecessary. Now Carney's looking at the books and realizing that he can't afford to expand programs that won't actually produce results. The whole thing was in a massive waste. The funny thing is for the money they were looking at setting aside for it they could have bought private insurance like people have with their work for literally every single Canadian who didn't have work coverage currently and it would have included medical and dental. This is why we're broke in our country is in ruin

You have to read between the lines there. He means he dropped out in grade 9

It's a pretty complicated issue so good luck with that. Not that people are incapable of understanding complex issues but the reality is is the more complex the issue the easier it is to muddle it and get people who aren't expert confused. the average person who doesn't have hours to examine all of this stuff we'll have a difficult time sorting wheat from the chaff. You should becomes how far they want to push it. We do have a thing called The Clarity Act which allows for a province that is substantially unhappy with confederation to negotiate in good faith to basically become more sovereign within Canada. But it doesn't allow for them to leave Canada. That would require essentially armed rebellion. And the question becomes would that be worth it if they've already got 90% of what they want? There are benefits to remaining in Canada. Being your own country has a lot of risks and problems associated with it. I'm becoming part of America means basically becoming like maine, with zero power and 0 influence and you're fighting with all the other states for the same things that you're fighting for in Canada. You still going to run into states aren't going to want a pipeline between your province and the ocean. And if they support a pipeline to Texas you're only going to be able to sell to one customer, same as now So if somebody says alberta can make its own laws, collect its own taxes, have sovereignty over 80% of what it wants to, and can opt out of a number of things but it doesn't want to participate in but still has some connection to Canada and some obligation, it's most likely people may say close enough. It is severely unlikely that alberta would actually separate as a sovereign nation entire. Severely unlikely. But a more interesting thing would be what happens in the future after that. Other western provinces me very well demand the same rights. And after a. Of time those western nations may look at each other and say maybe it is time to split completely. Or if not completely to form something closer to an European economic union with each other or with the rest of Canada and further reduce the federal sovereignty Canada really should never have been this big. The western provinces have been exploited since day one and the country just does not function well as one big huge massive sovereign nation. We only did it to protect ourselves from The Americans. We can still achieve that without having a strong a federal government as we do now

I just want to pause here for a moment and point out that the fact that we cut trees down with axes primarily made of wood is kind of a dick move. "Oh hey, did you two know each other? BWAAAAAHAHAHAH (chop chop chop!!"

At the end of the day a democracy survives only because people believe that the system is a fair representation of the will of the public. Currently that is not the case and despite the whining from the democrats it is not the case for either side. Polling is clear that whichever side wins the other side has no faith in the process The Americans desperately need to pass anything they can that restores faith that the process is substantially fair and free of fraud. Both sides should be engaged in creating that impression whether they genuinely feel there has been significant fraud or not

There's nothing false about that! How is that a false equivalency in the slightest? We had tons of partisan actors openly promoting and even meeting with americans and doing interviews on there talk shows and such, it's exactly the same thing To me precisely how it's different. Trump even made the accusation recently that rob ford's commercials were interference in the elections that were being held at the state level at that time. It's interference if the US government gives money to a separatist group or a non separatist group for that matter. The commentary is absolutely common on both sides of the border and always has been and is not a false equivalency in the slightest. You don't get to call something a false equivalency just because it blows your little complaint out of the water

Yeah, and this isn't one of those threads where it's kind of a fake situation or a particular article hammering home a particular political point of view or anything, there were plenty of those out there and I deliberately chose a neutral one They are backing away from the deal they made with the NDP and I expect that soon it'll be in the trash heap. The fact is the provinces already had these programs in place for the most part. BC for example already covered diabetic medicine and birth control before the program the liberals came up with came out. So the liberals know if they back off nobody's going to really notice in British Columbia But I bet all of those dippers who try to defend to jag meet because of pharmacare are feeling pretty stupid right now

It does, in fact, require special training and occasionally a concussion

Looks to me like he's writing for his audience There are like 10 people old enough on this board to get the breakfast club reference there but I got it

@User answered before, you just chose to ignore it because you know he's right and as predicted you're trying to drag the argument down to a semantics game. Kid. You're fooling no one. Everyone here is laughing at you,

Really? I woudn't have thought the first nations would agree to that

Give me a break. Was canada "interfering" when canadian personalities and people on the web commented during trump's election? give me a break We comment on their political processes, they comment on ours, that's not interference. If their give $100,000 to a separatist group, that's interference, or if they pay a bot farm to flood canada's social media etc.

But life was still affordable. You claimed it wasn't. It was expensive but affordable and 2015. You claimed it wasn't .It is now no longer affordable. A concern and an issue to keep an eye on suddenly became a disaster under the liberals. And every election Justin promised he was going to fix the problem, and after every election it got worse. This is a liberal made crisis. Immigration played a large role of it because immigration was not indexed to capacity of medicine homes and other infrastructure. The excessive taxes have played a role in it, the flight of business investment from Canada has played a large role in it, so on and so forth You want to pretend but it's not a liberal issue but this is 100% a liberal issue I'm the one that had to tell you that Also all those facts I mentioned and links to, and the facts that other people gave you as well all of which that prove this is the case. Yes really. And that's the liberals fault. Life has become less affordable under the libs. A LOT less affordable, not just a little. To the point where the current up and coming generations will have a substantially worse quality of life. That's what you've done to this country

It is severely unlikely that Alberta would actually leave per se. What would happen is they would be able to negotiate a species of sovereignty association where they have a considerably larger amount of autonomy within Canada. This has been talked about at length when Quebec was thinking about leaving. There's really no provision in the constitution that allows for a province to actually leave and that presents problems That isn't to say that other provinces may not demand the same sort of autonomy if it's granted to alberta and we may see a radical change in Canada that severely de-emphasizes federation and moves closer to something like the European Union where each province basically makes its own rules but there's certain common trading agreements etc

I suspect that the feds may make all kinds of announcements designed to appease the separatists but I suspect they're going to miss judge things a bit. And they certainly won't intend on following through very much of it I doubt the Americans care enough to participate. The realities were not actually talking about true separation here. He is unlikely that Alberta would actually become its own independent nation or break off to join the Americans. At best they would Negotiate some sort of sovereignty association agreement where they had much more independence in autonomy while still remaining part of Canada