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We saw it happen live on television. We saw the footage from the security cameras. The crowd was not peaceful. Police officers were murdered that day. And, by the way, if you beat a person in the head and they die the NEXT day as a result, you’re still charged with murder. That’s the definition of murder, so just because those officers lived another few days is irrelevant. You’re spreading ridiculous lies and you ought to be in prison with the rest of the insurrectionists.

I quoted your own words. Trump literally incited a murderous riot, then told the rioters he loved them. Abortion clinics have been bombed and abortion doctors murdered. But Fox reports none of that when writing a “news” story claiming that it is the extremism of Democrats that are the cause of political violence in America. That’s a lie. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-pro-lifers-victimized-political-violence-since-biden-called-trump-supporters-threat-u-s

Correct. Life is meaningless. So we can assign our own meaning. I celebrate existence by making the world better and enriching the lives of the people I know. You do it by pretending there’s a supernatural great pumpkin who will reward you for all of eternity if you correctly decode the rules he wrote in a book 4,000 years ago, as amended by the opinions of some men who showed up later on. I’d say you’re the one with the meaningless life. The history of Christianity is sadly the history of brutality. It’s been used for nearly 2,000 years as a justification for dictators to stay in power and start wars against innocent people. So I think it’s quite important that people who choose to follow the Bible do so within the context of the historical nature of that book.

You don’t know the difference between fact and faith.

Fool bullshit lying hell as fool… You don’t have anything intelligent to say at all.

Of course. The existence of a supernatural being cannot be proven through scientific experiments. That doesn’t mean science is wrong and it doesn’t mean there is no God. You just make up your own stupid nonsense on the subject.

Let's assess the article. First, the article says gas prices rose because of inflation. It goes on to say, "if we’re going to blame the entities that caused inflation, they are, in order, the Federal Reserve, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden." However, the article does not address that there are two components of inflation, not one: It is too much money chasing too few goods. We have a major problem with "too few goods" right now, but the article ignores that. Second, the article ignores that inflation is a worldwide phenomenon right now. The US Dollar, in fact, is at its strongest that I ever remember. Both the British Pound and the Euro are worth $1.00. That's the strongest dollar I ever remember, at least against those two currencies. The US Dollar is also strong against the Chinese RMB, trading at $1 to 7.2 RMB. It was about 1 to 6.5 before. So by those accounts, inflation is weaker in the US than in Europe, the UK and China, correct? So inflation doesn't make much sense as the reason for oil prices increasing, and your article says that! "The major cause of gasoline price increases, as the earlier data show, has not been inflation." "Between the first quarter of 2021 and the fourth quarter of 2021, worldwide consumption rose from 93.9 million barrels per day (mbd) to 99.2 mbd." Also, they add, "One factor is Biden’s and many European governments’ response in the oil market to Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. They have colluded to keep Russian oil off the market." Personally, I agree with this policy. Paying more for gasoline as my part in checking Russian expansion is a positive thing. FINALLY, the article addresses Biden's executive policies: "Longer term, Biden will contribute to higher oil prices." SO there we are: All your bullshit, all your lies, all your stupid YouTube links, your childish insults, and what's the result: YOU PROVED THAT YOU ARE WRONG. Yes, maybe in two or three years, oil prices will be higher because of the Keystone pipeline. I doubt it; I think it's more likely the drilling moratoriums. But that's only if the alternative energy plants aren't launched. And the US has been held hostage by oil companies long enough. Remember this one simple fact: America has petroleum energy independence. And that means, the higher oil prices we pay right now is nothing but pure profit in oil companies' pockets.

You didn’t answer the question. All you did was change the subject and insult me. Petroleum prices increased worldwide. Then they fell. Joe Biden did not increase nor decrease worldwide petroleum prices by cancelling a pipeline which will not be operational for ten years. One reason prices went up was the war in Ukraine. Ted Cruz claims he could have prevented that war by… wait for it... wait for it… by cancelling a non-operational petroleum pipeline. So I think you need to have a seance with Rush Limbaugh or call Steve Bannon and get your bullshit straightened out.

Explain what the Keystone Pipeline has to do with the cost of energy TODAY. 1) It would take years to complete 2) Its purpose is to enable petroleum exports

I can’t get past their paywall. It’s not an article by AOC. I think that article has more to do with, “the rise of fracking, which extracts oil and gas from shale rock, unlocked cheap domestic supplies,” has had unintended consequences. What you seem to be doing here is suggesting that a current, unanticipated production constraint has been created by strategy. Maybe you can share some insights from that article, so that I don’t have to pay.

Does DNA exist? Yes, it does. Why doesn’t the Bible tell us about physics, chemistry, atomic theory and DNA? Didn’t God create those things? Science is based upon observation. It does not have an agenda beyond discovering the truth as revealed by observation and experimentation. You choose to feel threatened by that, but that’s your problem. Your answer is that it’s all magic, as described in a book. And that’s fine, unless you’re using it to promote a policy which happens to be in concert with supporting the petroleum and coal industries… which becomes pretty suspicious.

Go read AIC’s Green New Deal, which is pretty much the most radical of the plans, and tell us where it says we all need to get by with less electricity. Or go find where Iowa is NOT generating half its electricity from Wind. Or where Trump did NOT say that windmills cause cancer. I’m not lying, I’m just presenting you with facts that don’t fit your narrative.

You did not prove Jack. You posted a link to a video. You did not explain at all what your point is. If all we do here is post links to videos without any commentary, then we’re just talking past each other. If you want to keep this discussion moving, you need to explain what sanction Ted Cruz put in place. It still makes no sense that the Congress can pass a law that the President can overturn, so I’d like to see some facts, not a link to a video, unless it supports your statement.

Well… DUH! Seriously, where do you get your bizarre ideas? NOBODY is saying we should shut off coal plants without providing alternative generation. The push is to find development and deployment of alternatives. We did a lot of that under Obama, then elected a knuckle-dragging primate who claims that the noise from windmills causes cancer. I’ve pointed out facts: For example, half of all electricity generated in Iowa is from wind. So for sure it works, on a large scale. My view is we can generate far more power with alternative energy than with conventional sources, and for less money. And that means prosperity, worldwide. People need power everywhere, and having abundant, clean air electric power allows far more industrial development than ever before. All energy production is government subsidized. Oil, coal, wind, nuclear, hydro… all of it. Pull your head into the sunshine and figure out that the entirety of the opposition to alternative energy is the coal and petroleum industry. Now they’ve even spun it into a religious argument. Seriously? Like people thinks the Bible somehow commands us to burn coal and not use windmills. That’s the very definition of insanity.

Riiiiight… so you found a video of Ted Cruz blowing smoke. Wowee. What were those sanctions? Because I looked all over the internet, and could only find Obama era sanctions from 2014/15. What was newly imposed in 2017 and revoked in 2021? My bs meter doesn’t believe sanctions were imposed by an act of Congress and eliminated via executive action.

It is easy to accept both Genesis and evolution. You ignore an important fact about the Bible: It was not written for modern man, it was written for very ancient man. And if we take all we know of how science describes the creation of the world, and explain it to ancient man, we get a story like Genesis. So we can easily accept both together.

You do not understand the lesson of Babel. Building the tower was not the sin, it was thinking they could be with god that was the sin. We have built vastly bigger towers. We have flown to space. We have peered billions of light years into the past, and god stopped none of that. Scientists are not trying to change the weather, they are trying to preserve it.

Carefully consider this: In the 1970’s, scientists realized that Earth’s ozone layer was being destroyed by CFC’s… the refrigerant used in air conditioners and the propellant used in make aerosols. We didn’t have a bunch of jerks claiming that scientists were getting rich off of this or making up “fake science.” We just solved the problem. You can no longer buy aerosols with CFC’s and refrigerators use different chemicals and AC systems need to have recovery systems. And it’s worked. So why the opposition to reducing carbon emissions? One thing only: Petroleum Companies. And they funded GOP-related groups so much that the GOP decided their “team” would fight science. The science itself is overwhelming. The petroleum industry offered cash bounties to scientists to publish papers questioning MMGW. That is NOT science, it is politics. You fund research, not conclusions. The conclusions are very easy to see: We’ve been accurately tracking temperature for well over 100 years. We can measure the age of glacier and polar ice. We have measured the ebb and flow of arctic and Antarctic ice for a long time. The evidence is very consistent. However, you are ignoring the point of this thread: The folly is in letting foreign nations take the lead in developing the energy technologies of the future. We will not rely on petroleum forever. Iowa already generates half its electricity from wind. The national average is 9% wind power already. The technology works.

Which specific Trump policy prevented this invasion? Please be specific and explain the mechanism.

No, Wikipedia does not disagree with my narrative at all. The Wikipedia article says “German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who had been in favour of the project,[2] suspended its certification on 22 February 2022,[3] following official recognition of the Donetsk People's Republic and Luhansk People's Republic by the Russian State Duma and President Putin during the prelude to the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine.” But Wikipedia is not permitted as a source in academic papers because ANYBODY can change a Wikipedia article. There’s an edit button. Try it.

The only honest truth is this: Both Jared Kushner and Hunter Biden took advantage of their political connections to secure massive overseas business deals. Whether legal, I cannot say, but they are clearly unethical, and condemning one while excusing the other is partisan blindness, no matter which you excuse.

For sure, Ukraine will not gain NATO membership while they are at war with Russia. I don’t think you understand that NATO membership requires unanimous NATO member support AND it obligated all NATO members to come to the military aid of any other member who is attacked… meaning that bringing Ukraine into NATO would immediately put the US and Western Europe into war with Russia. That simply will not happen unless another NATO member is attacked. Putin is trying to make the West culpable by annexing eastern Ukraine. Doing this means that when Ukrainian forces use American weapons, Putin will claim that US weapons are attacking Russian soil and Russian citizens.

Well excuuuuuse me! You proclaim absolute faith in the Almighty and certainty that He created the Universe, but then get offended when any of society’s descriptions of Him are used. You seem to be fairly honest about the whole charade. I mean, you aren’t telling me how there’s a 2,000 year-old book which is 100% word-for-word holy, and we must obey every word of the book except for certain inconvenient ones because the words of a guy named Paul are more important than God’s own words. So I give you props there. You just honestly say that you made it all up and you don’t care what anyone else thinks, which is cool, but maybe using it as a guideline to decide what we should do to avoid environmental destruction is a bad idea.

“Gawd”? Doesn’t seem very respectful use of His name.

“The German government shelved the Nord Stream 2 project in February, just as Russia began to invade Ukraine.” https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/03/world/russia-ukraine-war-news?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Wikipedia is not a source, because anyone can edit its contents. But they report that, “German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who had been in favour of the project,[2] suspended its certification on 22 February 2022”