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The only defense against Satan is really faith in Jesus Christ and his written revelation, in English, the King James Bible. Otherwise a person is really entirely defenseless and he has them wrapped around his finger.

Yes. Please do.

This article reveals how the monarchists league in Canada sent a strong letter to the GG criticizing her for her comments on the eve of the Coronation of King Charles III. "Canadian monarchists have sent a strongly worded letter to Gov. Gen. Mary Simon chastising her for suggesting recently that there may need to be "conversations" about a future without the royals — and taking note of King Charles's unpopularity. In a May 10 letter, Robert Finch, the dominion chairman of the Monarchist League of Canada, said it was "unbelievable" that Simon, the King's representative in Canada, would question the future of the institution and the likability of the sovereign on the eve of his coronation." Monarchist group blasts the Governor General for commenting on King Charles's unpopularity (msn.com) As I recall the last person Trudeau picked for the GG job left in disgrace. Is Trudeau capable of picking the right people for the job?

That is exactly the point I made in the articles I quoted last night. Satan wants people to believe he does not exist. How else could he operate and deceive people if they believed he existed? It serves his purpose perfectly when people claim they don't believe in God or Satan. Then they are open to believe anything that originates from man's fallen, corrupt mind such as the idea that everyone should be free to do their own thing no matter what. Or to believe as you said, that life is not sacred and humans are just a glob of chemicals. That kind of stuff comes from Darwinism or secular humanist thinking and Satan loves it. It is all part of his plan to take as many people to hell as he can.

Canada is basically a heathen nation. All this assisted dying (or killing) is an abomination is the sight of God. Could be partly a result of the deadly influence of Romanism although many Romanists would oppose euthanasia. Quebec is 95% Catholic; yet the high medical authorities in Quebec are calling for Euthanasia of babies born with defects. Also it was a Quebec judge who ruled MAID must be provided to people with mental illness and the federal government did not appeal it to the Supreme Court. The thing about Romanism is it does not place God's written revelation, the Bible, as the final authority. It makes the Roman church the final authority which creates a confused kind of moral vacuum. It is not really Biblical Christianity. Yet many of our leaders are part of that system. They are the ones promoting abortion and assisted suicide.

Wow! Here is an example of how the arch deceiver, Satan himself, has deceived you. That is exactly the kind of thing he would say. He opposes God and wants everyone to believe there is no God and that we are all just an accident of the chemicals. That is total nonsense of course. The universe and life is extremely complex and required an infinitely intelligent designer-Creator, we call God. Even the simplest cell is enormously complex with long strings of DNA information in it. Information like that doesn't just happen by chance. It required an intelligent designer Creator to produce it and put the information there. You need re-think all this and read the King James Bible. You would be far better off to listen to what God says in his written revelation than to listen to anything atheists or agnostics tell you. They are also deceived by the great deceiver, Satan. "All true Christians would agree that life is the most precious gift that human beings have been given. Just the chance to be alive on this earth and play a part in the grand scheme of God’s eternal plan is a privilege indeed. The Bible clearly teaches that all life is of infinite value, regardless of its duration or quality, because all human beings are made in the image of God. Yet, despite this, there are times when life becomes so difficult or unbearable that people have tried to deal with these problems without God’s guidance and leading. Seeing a loved one suffer, where a doctor has pronounced there is no hope for them to live, is one of those issues." Canada has started down this road. It is a slippery slope. We are already seeing the consequences as MAID is being expanded to include mentally ill or anyone who might be depressed one day and decide it is time to end their life. I believe a medical association or medical professional in Quebec is even calling for euthanasia of babies who are born with certain medical issues. This just demonstrates how slippery a slope this is. It is becoming more like the Nazis Third Reich or Stalin's Communist Russia. "We are not to murder each other, or ourselves. God created human beings in His image and each of us carries within us the potential to overcome the evil in this world. If we are Christians, we no longer belong to ourselves, but to God. We are overseers of our bodies and our lives (which belong to Him), and we are responsible to guard that which has been entrusted to us. Euthanasia is a grievous sin that seriously hurts both the heart of God and others as well. Jesus is the great Healer and Miracle Worker and when we take matters into our own hands, we deny the power of God." What the Bible Says About Euthanasia - Bible Resources

I have to disagree. Life is sacred. The Holy Scriptures make it clear that our bodies belong to God. He created us and is the only one who has the right to decide when it is time to die. Therefore mercy killing is contrary to God's commandment "thou shalt not kill". "The God of the Bible is a God of life, not death. All forms of euthanasia, also known as mercy killing and assisted suicide, are considered the same as acts of murder in the Bible. Saving someone from pain is not a reason to kill them, nor is it lawful to kill oneself to save oneself from pain. God has made a way for us to overcome sickness, suffering and pain by His death on the cross. He has promised deliverance and healing to all that come to Him in faith. When someone is a party to taking another’s life, it is a direct act of not only murder, but idolatry as well, for they assume the role of God. The Bible says in: I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. Deuteronomy 30:19-20 According to these scriptures, it is God who gives us life and sets the length of our days according to His plans for us, and our response to that plan. When any human being chooses death for another and does not try to preserve life, it is murder. That is also the reason that abortion is murder as well. When a woman chooses to destroy her own child, she chooses death for that baby and is guilty of breaking the sixth commandment found in Exodus 20:13: “Thou shalt not kill.” What the Bible Says About Euthanasia - Bible Resources

So you are saying government can control the media and speech on the basis of some kind of superior "information mechanics"? Why do you trust the government to be the mediator of what everyone and what media broadcasts? That is like trusting Orwell's 1984 Big Brother.

You're welcome. We kind of wandered around talking about a number of things such as history of the evil things done in the world and by religions. Then I tried to explain, especially with websites that know much more than me, about who the Devil is and what part he plays in the evil in the world. I believe the bottom line is what the Bible tells us particularly the King James Bible because it was written by eye witnesses to the power of God. I am just reading that book, The Biblical Doctrine of Satan, from Amazon Kindle I downloaded. Read the first few pages. It is quite interesting. Looks like God for whatever reason allows Satan to have a certain amount of control and presence on earth until Christ returns. He has deceived millions of people into believing he does not exist. But you are correct, religious and atheist rarely agree. But that is what debate and discussion is for. We share each other's views and that's all we can do. What people do with it is their business. Looks like it will be getting hot the next number of days. Keep cool.

Good question. "How Did Lucifer Fall and Become Satan? Lucifer became so impressed with his own beauty, intelligence, power, and position that he began to desire for himself the honor and glory that belonged to God alone. This pride represents the actual beginning of sin in the universe—preceding the fall of the human Adam by an indeterminate time." The story of Lucifer's fall is described in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14. I should mention to use only the King James Bible (1611). Modern versions have corrupted the history of Lucifer/Satan. He has even had a hand in the production of modern versions of the Bible. I am not an expert on it, but had a recollection that he rebelled against God and was kicked out of heaven. So his name was changed to Satan but his goal is still the same. He seeks the honor and glory that belongs to God. The Story of Lucifer - How Did He Fall and Become Satan? (christianity.com) That is true. Again this comes back to doctrine on the fall of man and as a result man has a fallen, corrupt nature. That is the basic reason for all the wars, crime, and suffering in the world. Most religions in the world are false in the sense they are not worshiping the true God of the Bible. Also, because of man's corrupt nature, we have even within nominal Christianity cults, and large numbers of people who are not really following the Bible. There are many shades of churches. Some that are fairly close to the truth in what they believe, some in more error than others, and some that are false. Even within any particular church, there are many different kinds of people. A church is not a place where everyone is suddenly perfect humans. Churches have been likened to hospitals where people that are suffering spiritually or searching for truth go to hear sound preaching that will help them. Many evil things have happened through the centuries by people in various religions and also apart from religion. Atheists and communist, fascists have also done many evil things in history. Quite true. He is in opposition to God to begin with. From what I know the Bible says he is a liar and the father of it. He is a deceiver. He tempted Eve to rebel against God in the beginning. "As a result of this heinous sin against God, Lucifer was banished from living in heaven (Isaiah 14:12). He became corrupt, and his name changed from Lucifer (“morning star”) to Satan (“adversary”). His power became completely perverted (Isaiah 14:12,16,17). And his destiny, following the second coming of Christ, is to be bound in a pit during the 1000-year millennial kingdom over which Christ will rule (Revelation 20:3), and eventually will be thrown into the lake of fire (Matthew 25:41). " The Story of Lucifer - How Did He Fall and Become Satan? (christianity.com) "Deceiver and Accuser Even though this supernatural being, this fallen angel and archenemy of God, has a remarkable power in the material or physical realm —he can make people sick, he can throw them in prison, and he can even kill them — nevertheless, his main way of opposing God and destroying God’s people is not in the physical or material realm, but in the mental or intellectual or moral realm. In other words, the best way to think about his power is not in terms of physical strength, but moral deception. Let me try to illustrate this from the Bible. Here’s the passage that piles up more designations of Satan than any other passage in the Bible. If I had only one or two verses to put the identity and work of Satan before you, it would be Revelation 12:9–10. Here it says, “And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent.” And remember what the Bible said in Genesis 3 about him: he’s subtle. He’s subtler than every beast. So it’s his subtlety that’s being focused on here, his serpent-like reality. “And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil [διάβολος: slanderer, liar, cheat] and Satan [adversary], the deceiver of the whole world.” I don’t think you can say anything more sweeping or more basic than the end of Revelation 12:9: “He is the deceiver of the whole world.” Verse 10: “The accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God.” So at the center of Satan’s purpose is to deceive on earth and to accuse in heaven. If he can deceive you about God and Christ, you will perish. If he can successfully accuse you of unforgiven sin in heaven, you will perish. Jesus calls him “a murderer from the beginning” (John 8:44). The deception and the accusation and the eternal death that results from unforgiven sin is a way of destroying people and opposing God. Worldwide Battleground Josh asks me, “To what extent and by what means specifically does Satan influence the world?” My answer, therefore, is that the extent is worldwide and the means is deception." For the full article: Where Is Satan Most Visibly Active Today? | Desiring God “He destroys not mainly by the sword or disease or killing, but mainly by lying.”

Unfortunately, we have a government that seems bent on social engineering the country to fit it's own image of what it thinks Canada should be. That should not be the purpose of government. Perhaps it is the way a government goes when it has been in power too long.

Simply being a Canadian is being a loyalist because we are a Constitutional Monarchy. If you are a Canadian, you are a loyalist. There is no choice.

I have clearly said I am willing to discuss the subject rationally and peacefully. I think the only reason you came in here with BCSapper is to throw insults around. You knew I was talking about God or Satan with him and just couldn't resist.

You just described your modus operandi: name calling and insults. That's your choice but it really discredits everything you said. I never had a "hissy fit" as you claimed. I simply replied and you throw insults and name calling back. If you want to have a serious discussion, I am always willing.

What is the specific question? If you have a clear question, I would try to answer it.

The Bible describes Satan's history. In Isaiah in the Old Testament, there was once in the distant past before creation a chief angel in heaven called Lucifer. He reportedly rebelled against God and was kicked out of heaven. He took a third of the angels with him. After he was kicked out, he was given a new name, Satan. You see he thought he could replace God and this I believe is what his objective has been. He is the prince of this world. Many follow him and yet don't believe he exists. That is the way he likes it because he can then easily manipulate or influence the world.

Fair question. The introduction to the book I just mentioned on Kindle , Amazon says: "The world has been willing to comply with the wishes and projects of Satan to the extent of ceasing to believe that he really exists; this unbelief being most advantageous to his present undertakings. Yet the opinions of men have never changed the facts of revelation, and, according to Scripture, Satan exists; still possessed with great power and influence over the affairs of men--" Chafer, Lewis Sperry. The Biblical Doctrine of Satan (Annotated) . Exegetica Publishing. Kindle Edition.

I don't really care what your interests are. I simply point out what I believe. What you do with it is your business. Don't ever become a lawyer in a court. You will lose every time. You are asking a kind of question but I am not sure you are seriously asking. Are you being serious are sarcastic? You don't understand who God is and don't understand who Satan is. So how can we get past the starting point. You gave the impression you automatically dismiss anything to do with God. You modus operandi is to insult or mock. You would be wise to at least have a bare minimum of knowledge of what we are talking about. Without even a basic idea, how can anyone discuss anything about it or get past the starting point. You seem to very quick to reply with the answers, but not to interested in listening to anyone else.

Another fake claim. No proof, no evidence. Just dream up a phony claim and throw it out there. If you really want to know something about the Devil, go to Amazon and download the kindle book called "Satan" by Chafer. It is an interesting read and quite informative. Kindle price $0.99 . That's 99 cents. You can't lose and might learn a lot. The Biblical Doctrine of Satan (Annotated) eBook : Chafer, Lewis Sperry, Cone, Christopher, Scofield, C.I.: Amazon.ca: Kindle Store

You are an expert with obfuscation and making claims that nobody can prove one way or another. Frivolous allegations. Trying to debate that way is like a dog chasing his tail. Waste of time.

So you blame it on the Devil and don't accept any responsibility yourself? "The Devil made me do it". Pretty common saying.

Yes, I am sure many of them were not doing major evil things. But the Bible tells us everyone is a fallen sinner and needs to be born again. That's a central message of the Bible. Be born again and avoid going to hell. Even anyone who has not done vile serious sins or crimes, is still a sinner on the way to hell unless he is born again and receives forgiveness.

Most of the people in the western world nominally belonged to one of those three religions, either Jews, nominal Christians (Romanism) or Muslims. We are talking about hundreds of millions of people in the world.

History is not that simple. You can't just generalize about large segments of the population like that. Many things happened throughout history. I am sure there were a lot of people that did good things down through the ages. But there were a lot of bad things that happened even in the 20th century. Like the Third Riech, Nazis, Communist revolutions, and many genocides in parts of the world too. Man has after all a fallen, corrupt heart. The Bible tells us that when Adam and Eve rebelled against God, they and all their descendants received a fallen corrupt nature, including us.

It should also be mentioned that before the Reformation, ordinary people did not have a Bible. Bibles simply were only in the hands of church clergy and were written in Latin until after the 16th or 17th century. Rome even forbade its people from owning or reading Bibles until recent times. The Reformation in the 16th century and the invention of printing presses changed that for some people in Britain the northern Europe and parts of Germany, but that was a slow process over centuries. Not everyone escape the control of Rome either. Lots of bad things happened in the 16 to 19th centuries in parts of Europe; wars and brutality. People were just not as civilized and did not recognize human rights until relatively recently in the west.