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I'm sure they can be screened to prevent that. China has a million ways of spying. They don't need EVs to spy. What exactly is so useful about an EV spyimg? Probably more fictional claims. Ford and the auto industry might make that claim too.

Clever way to avoid answering the questions. What you keep saying is irrelevant. I simply did a search and posted a short article answering the question about health care in China. I didn't research what Forbes is and if you disagreed with the post, you are free to post any rebuttal you wish. But you don't refute things on a rational basis. You prefer to throw BS accusations of dishonesty all the time. This is why it is necessary to put you on IGNORE. You are not a serious poster on this forum. If you expect others to take you seriously, you have to change your approach and respect people that you disagree with and stop accusing them of dishonesty. That is not how to have a rational discussion with anyone. It is a total waste of time. I get the feeling that you believe in Trump's insulting approach to the world is the way to act. It is certainly NOT. It is not Christian or Biblical at all. He spent the past year insulting the sovereignty of Greenland and making life miserable for the citizens of Greenland. They don't deserve that kind of treatment. Maybe you think you are superior to everyone else just as Trump seems to believe. That doesn't work on a political forum like this.

Most people working in the health care system are strongly protected by their associations and political apparatus. I doubt anyone ever gets fired no matter how bad the decisions they make. I have a question for the health authorities and the minister of health as well as the Premier. If an emergency room says it is going to close in the coming weekend, why do the authorities not order one or more doctors from a nearby town or city, maybe a hundred or several hundred kilometers away, to get packed and go to that town to fill in the short-staffed ER department? Why are doctors not required to fill in urgent needs on a temporary basis? In many other occupations, employees are required to travel to fill in for urgent positions. What is so special about doctors that they do not? Who is in control, the health care authorities or the doctors? I think we know the answer.

What is fact and what is propaganda? Anything good said about China's health care system must be propaganda of course. What about Chinese EVs? Are they any good?

Don't expect politicians or voters to know how to run an efficient health care system. They have long proven they simply can't do it. For starters, voters have no real control over health care through the ballot box. That's not how health care can be run. It never has worked and never will. Our health care system is run on the principle that the elected government contributes X amount of dollars to it and it theoretically gives equal access or care to everyone regardless of income or wealth. However, that has never worked out in practice for many reasons. Politicians believe they have done all they can do, and whatever happens in the system is beyond their control and responsibility. As long as it says on paper somewhere, that healthcare is available to everyone equally, they wash their hands of it. The thousands that are dying on waiting lists every year and millions that don't have a family doctor is not their fault as far as they're concerned. They have obeyed the decree that as long as a public system exists, everyone has equal access to it regardless of income. Even if the system is a farce, they believe they have done their duty. That's Canada.

A lot that is written in Canada may be suspect as well. You have to learn how to discern good and bad articles. A journalist once told me that everything is biased one way or another.

ER physicians say recent string of deaths indicative of decades of provincial neglect | Watch

There are websites with detailed reports on it.

You believe the existing system can somehow be fixed. Canada and the provinces have had decades to "fix" the health care system and have not done so. That should be enough proof that the system does not allow it be fixed. On my above post I explained why I see the existing health care system as unrepairable. I believe the democratic system we have does not allow a public health care system to succeed. There are many competing interests and the people in charge are under pressure to do everything, not just provide health care. So it is an impossible situation. Maybe you came from a background of being a public servant and somehow believe that government can do anything. I don't believe it can. We have had decades of seeing the public health care system go downhill. I do not see any solution to save the public health care system. We are already at the point where it is costing thousands of Canadians their lives. It is an enemy within.

Here's the way I see it. A democratic system such as ours is not the proper system to deliver a socialized or public health care system. Trying to mix western democracy and Socialism is like trying to mix oil and water. It just doesn't work. The proof is there. A Socialized health care system requires a government that is not pulled in every direction on spending. It is incapable of delivering adequate health care with that system. Politicians who gain power in our system are under tremendous pressure to spend where the biggest demands are or a variety of demands. That means health care will not be the top priority. It is just the result of the structure. Elections are always a popularity contest and not on delivering an excellent health care system which might require a large percentage of the budget. That is the sad truth. That is why a totally Socialized or total public system will never work.

You have a serious mental problem. I am not getting into your game of name calling and accusations.

Goodness, fixing the failing health care system would be terrible according to you, right? Only more money, a lot more, might fix it. Would have to fire some people though.

I understand we must greatly increase our trade with other countries because of U.S. tariffs. China always has been our second largest trading partner. They are a very large market with a huge population. We must take advantage of that market. The Board of Peace has nothing to do with trade.

Trump is creating a so-called board of peace to deal with the Gaza. Carney is apparently considering joining it. He should forget it. It will be run by Trump, which is something Canada should avoid like the plague. Trump is also inviting Putin to be part of it. It could also cost Canada billions of dollars. Canada already spends around 12 billion dollars a year on foreign aid and various foreign liberal projects. We can't afford to do that. Taking on rebuilding the Gaza could cost every member of the board of peace billions of dollars. Also, Trump is threatening to take ownership of Greenland. He calls for Canada to become the 51st state. Carney needs to wake up. He should have nothing to do with it. We should not forget Hamas has still refused to lay down its weapons. They have no intention of maintaining a peace agreement with Israel. Canada should stay well away from that situation or could be dragged into a costly and useless effort. Carney still mulling 'Board of Peace' seat despite Trump's invitation to Putin

Is accusing people of deception all the time a MAGA trait? Sounds like it.

Nothing deceptive about it. I simply quoted a short article that said Forbes on the bottom. When you asked to see the link, I looked for it and couldn't find the article again. What deceptive about that? You win first prize for accusing people of deception and dishonesty all the time.

Was not talking about living standards or quality of life. This was only about the efficient services a Canadian man working in China said he receives.

No it was no mistake. I quoted you the short AI article with the Forbes signature at the bottom. I never added it myself. It was on the bottom of the article. You are way too fast at making accusations of deception. Nothing deceptive about it.

Here is one response I received, but it is not the original one I posted. Don't know why I don't see it now. I guess you can search the same thing. "China's health care system has transformed alongside its society and economy since the Mao era. Chinese citizens can access universal health care through government-supported or mandated health insurance plans. Private healthcare options are also available, and supplementing public health insurance with private cover is possible. China has made efforts to close the gap in health disparities between rural and urban areas, aiming for nearly universal healthcare where essential health services are provided without financial hardship. Stanford University+2

I tried to find it again through the History option but couldn't find it. I believe it was an AI posting in response to my question "Is China's health system better than Canada's?" I tried a search again but it does not come up. Will give it another try anyway. The other link I just sent you gives a lot of detail of China's health care system. I don't think you read it yet.

This does not appear to be from the China Daily. I read this article and it doesn't sound like any kind of China bias. It sounds like a complex issue and there are good and not so good things about China's health care system. It is better for urban areas and not so good for rural areas for one thing. It also requires money for some services. Is China’s Healthcare System Better Than Ours? You Decide

I quoted a man that worked in China several years and quoted his first hand experience in a number of services. What little experience he had with health care was very good. He got to see a specialist the next day. You probably have much faster service in the U.S. but you need good insurance and / or pay lots of cash. We can't easily compare Canadian or China's health care with U.S. because yours is probably good if you have good insurance or lots of money. Canada's system is public, more like China's which is public. But Canada's is poorly run or doesn't have the money in it.

I'm out right now, but will look for a link later today. Don't think I can copy and paste with this phone. It is possible for a country to have a better health care system than Canada's and still have a lower standard of living. Some European countries have better health care than Canada. Canada's is become a disaster by many reports. Are you an American or Canadian?

In British Columbia, what strong actions has Premier Eby or the Minister of Health taken to alleviate the huge shortage of doctors and eliminate the waiting lists in the past five years for example? What have they done to stop the ER closures in various communities across the province? Nothing obviously. They should be fired.

quote Highly efficient China's healthcare system is highly efficient, with the country achieving a remarkable level of healthcare efficiency. In 2022, China was the only country to reach zero inefficiency, meaning it maximized its healthcare spending to deliver the best possible health outcomes based on its level of investment. This efficiency is a result of several factors, including high vaccination rates, widespread use of prenatal care, low government corruption, and a larger share of health spending coming from public sources rather than private. The system's efficiency is a testament to China's commitment to improving health outcomes while controlling costs, offering an example for other countries seeking to enhance their health systems. Forbes unquote How is it possible? Canada is a relatively rich country, yet China can provide a far more efficient health care system for its people.