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He lied. After getting elected he went right back to all the vapid stupidity. Carbon credits, carbon taxes, EV mandates, hired all his cronies at $600-700,000 per year, started a bunch of new bureaucracies that have accomplished nothing so far (there's still 72 real projects, with real investors, stuck in limbo), continued giving away billions of dollars to other countries, same old, same old. The center voters will soon realize they were duped. They thought they were getting Conservative platform with Liberal fancy socks. Hahahhaa, id10ts.

Ya, that's what I thought. You have no reasons for why Alberta should continue to be part of this sh!tshow.

It's not just our oil & gas and minerals sectors. Liberals want ZERO industry in Canada. Carney has just closed 7 agricultural research centers that deliver leading innovations to farmers. 650 jobs lost in agricultural research. But he's giving $19 Billion to his consultant cronies. $8 million for gender-sensitive rice in Viet Nam. $22 million for to empower women bean farmers in the Congo. Farmers are pi$$ed. This is a huge blow to the agricultural sector.

Could be. But I think Jeneroux knew BEFORE he crossed the floor that it came with a new made-up special position that involved world travel for him and his family, unlimited expense account and ability to funnel taxpayer money into his personal businesses with no questions asked.

Well, it doesn't matter to Liberal supporters what the platform is. Then, pretty much anything the government says is OK. Expect nothing and you're happy with crumbs.

I've actually awoken quite a while ago to how Liberal voters vote. I suspected it had nothing to do with policy or platform, but I had no idea how much appearance has to do with it. It's so much easier when you don't care about platform or follow what's happening in actual committee meetings. then when the CBC says "The economy is great! We're doing better than we have before!" VOILA! there's both your talking point AND your proof - because the CBC is THE BIBLE. If you just ignore committee meeting, you miss out on things like Patty Hadju saying, "Ummmmm, what is Bill C-15 again, can someone remind me?" and Marc Miller saying "We don't NEED the power to exempt our friends from laws in Canada, we just think it would be a great thing to HAVE." or Sean Fraser being offended "We would NEVER use this power to lock up people for mean tweets." or Melanie Joly "This would not be for specific people." "But the legislation specifically says it would apply to 'individuals'". "Well it wouldn't." "But that's what it SAYS."

This convo has been the most informative one yet as a glimpse into the Liberal mind and how they vote.

Well, I know some things more than they do. Remember during the Liberal party leadership debate when none of them could answer what a cart of groceries costs? That was so hilarious. And remember when Carney said he doesn't know what strawberries cost because he doesn't buy his own groceries? I'm guessing your next argument will be that it's not important for them to know what things cost.

Except nothing has been done about those things. And anyways, as you said - platform doesn't mean a thing. We should vote by APPEARANCE. I'm just unclear on what that's about...... It's socks, isn't it? I mean that's how we kept Trudeau for so long. The socks. And that worked out beautifully for Canada.

You're right. We should just trust our overlords to know what's best for us. I mean, we're just peons who don't know anything and are so utterly stupid that we need handouts from the government just to be able to eat. What the hell do we know, amiright? It's always important to let the rich people decide what's best for us.

Boy, all those stupid voters in Edmonton-Riverbend. They thought they were voting for the Conservative PLATFORM. I bet they never even looked at Jeneroux's socks or paid much attention to his haircut. That's what the real criteria is.

Amazing. So, basically - policies and platforms mean nothing. If I like one guy's socks and don't like the dress the other lady wears, that's how I should be voting? Because I'm supposed to be voting for the PERSON and NOT the platform or the party. If I vote for the candidate who says "We need to bring down immigration. We need to stop government waste. " and they get voted in, they can just say to the constituents, "Bwaahhhahhaaha, fooled you all! I'm actually FOR all those things!" Honestly, I never, ever knew this. So, if candidates can just lie to voters about what their platform is and switch over after they're elected, again......what is the point of voting? I'm glad you're so knowledgeable about all this. Maybe you can help me out: since party platform doesn't mean anything, Which do you think it's better to vote for - a candidate's socks or a candidate's hairdo?

Wow. Thank you, Treebeard and MoonFace. I never, ever, ever knew that's how voting in Canada worked. I never knew that the person who is elected gets to flip-flop around between whatever party makes them a better offer and who gives a sh!t about what the voters in their area want. That is great information. And another good reason for Alberta to separate.

So.....what is the point of voting then, if the person you vote for gets to choose which party he/she is going to work for and constituents have no say in that?

Nothing says "I totally consulted with my constituents and they all want me to join the Liberal party" like locking down your account so you can't hear from your constituents.

I notice you can't answer the question. Why are you against Alberta leaving? You hate our resources, you hate our way of life (all those farting cows, OMFG!!!), you hate the way we vote, you hate everything about Alberta. You should be thrilled! You can have Liberal governments forever! No one can answer that question because there are no good reasons for Alberta to stay. None.

I think ALL of our politicians know Canada is toast. These floor-crossers are just trying to get closer to the trough before there's nothing left.

The Liberals poor policies and decision making is the cause of this inflation. Not all of our problems can be blamed on Trump. The budget is being discussed in Senate hearing right now and the PBO has just said that the tax cuts will only benefit Canadians who are already doing well enough. Those barely getting by will fall further behind and that is 25% of Canadians right now. FFS, the grocery rebate is supposed to go to 12 million Canadians! 12 million people can no longer afford to eat. How the F do you view that as a win for Liberal policies? You know, the real job of government happens in the committees, not in CBC headlines. If you guys watched more of those, you'd see how badly the CBC is misleading and lying to the public.

If voters no longer know who is going to switch sides for a special position or a travel perk, then ya. Democracy is dead in Canada.

Of course the Libs are going to win the next election. They bring in 2 million voters a year. There's no possible way any other party can make up that ground. Liberals will get 1 party rule by the end of this year. then we will be no different than Cuba, Venezuela or North Korea. Liberal supporters will absolutely LOVE this because the media will tell them to. Bread lines are GREAT because you get to spend hours with all your neighbours talking about how lucky we are that our government cares so much about us.

Why are you against Alberta leaving? The rest of Canada HATES Alberta with a burning rage that borders on mental illness. They don't want our resources, they DETEST our way of life. You should be THRILLED to see us go. What the hell is the problem?

No prosperous nation needs to give its citizens a rebate so they can afford the necessities of life. The "grocery rebate" is a huge admission of failure. Elbows up = Stomachs empty

It cannot be acknowledged because it goes against the "You're just imagining it, you racist Nazi bigot" narrative.

The media barely reports on some of these trans killings unless they involve actions so heinous, they can't be hidden from the public. Check out my latest post on the C-75 thread.