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Also please note where I can find daily state figures broken down into cases, testing, deaths and hospitalizations like seen here. https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19 Google has been no help.

You could always claim any regulations could cause economic damage. Millions of sick people also hurts the economy though. People will continue to contribute to the economy when they feel safe. How can you feel safe with numbers like that? I have no problem with that. But comparing a 1,500 case outbreak in Germany to the some 30,000 plus cases seen daily in the US is not proper context.

Yes but governments can help in "flattening the curve" by limiting people interacting with each other. Do you support or oppose this. And you're trying to stifle debate because you can't handle hearing your nation criticized.

How does that mesh with your philosophy that we should just let the virus loose in the public to create Herd Immunity? Are this numbers by design? and should these communist governors not stand in the way? Where have I demonstrated this? I analyzed the places you discussed. What other countries would you like to discuss?

And the Hotspot in Ontario. https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-reports-lowest-number-of-new-cases-of-covid-19-in-more-than-three-months-1.5001154 Ontario has 2,000 active cases. To put that into perspective. Florida announced 9,000 new cases JUST TODAY!!!!

OK, so what's your analysis on the rollbacks of re-opening in multiple US states? OK. Brazil's president minimized the threat of the virus. He called it the "Little Flu" https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-has-the-most-confirmed-covid-19-cases-in-latin-america-so-what-says-president-bolsonaro-1.5550720 Now his country is suffering. Sound familiar? Germany has one outbreak. Certainly a huge setback. We'll see how they react. 1,500 cases is a lot, but not catastrophic. India was always going to be a problem. They have 1 billion people and minimal public health infrastructure. Lots of people will die there and we probably will only know of a fraction of the cases. Happy?

I actually, more or less, talk about Trump in the Trump thread. I didn't mention him in my first post today about the Virus. You brought Trump into the equation when discussing his decision in April to ban 3M from sending 3M masks to Canada. I did mention GOP governors who have changed their tune about the virus. Remember yesterday when you called that a blindspot? The facts are that the rate of the outbreak in the US dwarf what's been seen anywhere else in the developed, since the start of June, is worth discussing. Places were opened thinking the curve had been flattened, and in many US states, the situation is worse than it was in April. And talking about masks and meat plants in Germany won't change that.

https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/gov-abbott-all-bars-must-close-texas-announcement-friday-june-26/285-9775cea0-8034-4518-9a40-1c5700952409 https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-06-26-20-intl/h_a7c96d40058684912bc493dec54ddd50 MITIGATION!!!!! Sounds like a Shutdown to me.

Brazil is a developed country? And what about Germany? They've probably handled this pandemic better than most countries. Also, I'll point out the Brazil's outbreak is due to the the exact same issues with the US. A populist leader that denies the seriousness of virus. So yeah TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP. I can't goad people into a debate talking about Brazil. How do you define a hotspot?

Did I say that? What I'm saying is that just about all the Developed world is on the downside of the Curve, except the US. Why is that? You're right. Most retailers don't even really mandate it. Because community spread is under control. Funny how that works.

Did I say all states? I'm sure plenty people are being responsible. But the numbers don't lie. I don't think a shortage of masks is the issue anymore. I don't think Masks are all that political. They seem to be the new seatbelt. But as an observer, I see masks becoming very political in the US.

It's your POTUS that makes masks a political issue. Yesterday you said that these numbers are just people getting infection over with. Now you're saying that mitigation is important to many Americans. So which is it? If that's the narrative you want to go with. Then there's the narrative that #45 wanted to ban a company from exporting their product abroad and cooler heads prevailed. Canada has local manufacturing now anyway. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/windsor-company-produce-n95-masks-1.5599447

That's bunk. COVID-19 numbers are available to the public. People are free to analyze them the way they want. We all get unfiltered access to Trump. His Twitter or his public appearance are seen without any political bias. We saw him say he told his people to "Slow the Testing Down!". Then he said "I don't kid" even though his handlers said he was kidding. Then pleges to shut down federally funded testing facilities. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/coronavirus-federal-government-to-end-funding-some-covid-19-test-sites.html We saw him gas peaceful protestors inorder to do Photo-Op with the bible. To say it's all manipulation for leftist propaganda is itself propaganda.

Clearly not enough. Masks are satanic. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/24/mask-mandate-florida-anger-erupts-coronavirus-vpx.cnn I'm not talking about N95 masks. You can get surgical masks in the Dollar Store now.

I was more talking about masks and social distancing. But sure, that's mitigation. (slow clap)

You did notice that 3 states put a halt to re-opening efforts. And the Texas Governor told people to stay home. BTW it's the complete disregard for any level of "mitigation" practices that have much of the US where it is right now.

Yesterday, some damning polls came out showing that, in key battleground states, Trump is way down to Biden. But NYT, Fake News BLARGHHHHH!!!! So how about this? https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/504651-fox-news-polls-trump-biden-neck-and-neck-in-georgia-texas-and-north Biden is leading in Georgia, Texas and North Carolina. Not to mention Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Arizona, Wisconsin and Michigan. If these trends hold Trump could get blown out. All Biden needs is to take back Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. He looks to be doing more than that. Does talking about taking down Confederate statues really expand the base?

Those that learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We understand that the death rate will drop as doctors know how to treat the disease. But we know that in places where COVID-19 ravaged a community, it was the level of Hospitalization, and the capacity related to it, caused deaths to spike. Where patients had to be triaged and doctors decided who lived and died. And GOP governors are noticing. Multiple states have halted their re-opening plans. Yesterday the US recorded 35,000 new cases. Canada has about 30,000 active cases total!

He had Schizophrenia. Evidence that police can't deal with people with mental illness. Perhaps some of their funding can go to people that can.

It shows that the police really aren't about protecting the public. He was mentally ill and in his home, there were no hostages. https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/family-of-62-year-old-man-fatally-shot-by-police-in-mississauga-ont-calls-for-public-inquiry-1.499336 They thought he may do harm to himself. So they enter the home. The truth is, the police did the harm. We don't know what exactly happened. But when 3 grown ass adults can't control a senior citizen without shooting him, there's a problem. Just like with Brooks, two sober men get their weapon stolen from them by a drunk guy. Pathetic!

There where masks and social distancing. Just not universal. I saw plenty of people with masks. Why don't you ask governments that have stopped all organized sports across all of North America. Conservative and Liberal places. You're acting like I stopped sports. As noted by BC2004, sports aren't essential. I agree that the protests led me to believe that all these rules limited family and friend interaction are complete bunk. But as seen with the Trump Rally and MAGA protests of the Shutdowns, it's not like these rules are being enforced in public places all that well. They weren't social distancing either. It seems public gatherings outdoors aren't what's spreading the virus. It's public gatherings indoors that are causing spikes.

The Trump rally was to be in an indoor area, impossible to social distance, few wearing masks. If the Dems sent people to infect people then perhaps it would have padded the paltry attendance at that rally.

They are, it's shocking how irrelevant sports are to your day-to-day life. But we certainly enjoy it, don't we? That's why they make so much money. I think COVID will lead to a lot of changes in how work happens that were long needed.

So what source will you not immediately disregard that shows that protests have not led to a Spike in cases? https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-lessons-from-large-protests.html

They asked them to help, not come in and shoot him.