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It's also worth discussing how this means that Canadian community spread is quite low.

The death rate will drop as doctors find out how to treat the disease. Unless. . . the hospitalization rate spills over capacity. Which is very possibly in Sunbelt states in the US. Then you have another New York, Italy and Spain. During the peak of the outbreak in Canada, there were never 4,000 cases a day like we're seeing in Florida right now. I'm praising New York for getting a handle on the virus. They shutdown, the cases dropped and now they're gradually re-opening. That's the blueprint for controlling COVID. That seems to be lost on Sunbelt states where wearing a mask is somehow a political issue.

Yep, the US is bungling COVID-19 very badly and it's worth discussing.

They went in the house though. And refused to let the family help. Again we don't know the full story and may never know because of the SIU, but it didn't seem like they were capable if deescalating anything.

I disagree, I think those are rallying points. But it's the overflowing of frustration about how Black are treated by police. Beyond just murder by police. Things like being thrown in federal prison for smoking a joint. It actually happens more than I'm comfortable with (against whites too). It happened in Mississauga this week. BC2004 talked about it. A Muslim man was having a mental health crisis and they called the cops for helped. They cops stormed the home and shot the man. That can't be good policing, not matter what the man tried to do.

Hospitalizations are up in these states too. And Hospitalizations and Deaths are lag indicators from a spike in positive cases. We're still seeing 10 or so deaths a day in Ontario, likely lagging from when the cases load was much higher a few weeks ago. Being healthy is something Murikans have a bit problem with. Your friend Bill Maher reminds everyone of that regularly.

Where do you note outrage in my posts? I just don't want to tell people that their lived experience is a lie, because of facts. Because those facts don't capture everything. They don't speak to how exhausting it must be for being pulled over for trivial things, over and over again. And it's not about laws, it's about perception and acceptance. Gay Marriage becoming legal is just the outcome. And Police reform will be the outcome here. Remember the issues of police brutality revolve around issues where people are not committing violent crime. And yet they end up being killed. The problem isn't enforcing violent crime laws. It's about escalating situations that don't need to be. I think you agree that's a problem with police, you just don't think they target POC more than whites.

Just a Canadian pointing out the the US seems completely incapable of getting this virus under control. Unlike almost all other developed nations on Earth.

The teaching moment is that whole "Bend the Curve" mentality is completely lost on places in the US that are seeing a a spike now. There are a comparable number of active COVID cases in the state of Arizona than all of Canada. That's a shit show.

No. People said that shutdowns where panicky and un-needed. The fact that previous hotspot can now safely and gradually re-open, but US states that scoffed at the shutdowns are now struggling is most certainly a teaching moment.

Some states in the US will become the next New York and Italy based on hospitalization rates. GOP governors refuse to do anything about it. Except in Texas where Shutdowns may return. Remember when Texas had like no cases?

California is now a Hotspot, likely because of neighbouring states. Much of the Western World saw it coming when Italy became a shit show. That's why we all locked down in Mid-March. The places that opened up early and not in stages are now suffering from a resurgence.

You could say the same about people and groups that were against Gay Marriage before they were before it. Remember when Blackface was a comic tool and The General Lee was a cool car? I think your rejection of racial politics may find yourself on the wrong side of history.

True. But now those places, like much of Europe have weathered the storm. It's just crazy that a place that was probably the worst COVID-infested area in the world is now restricting to people in the rest of the country. Tables turned. The difference is that the places currently being hit should have seen it coming. Which ones? Brazil? Brazil's President put his head in the sand as well.

I think the record high numbers in GOP-led states in the South is something Trump is going to have to wear like a shirt. COVID-19 rates are dropping all across Canada. And Canada is still using caution, just like Northeast states. The Hotspots now are places that thought COVID was no threat.

Go back to April. New York is a Dem Cesspool! They're the only place in the US that has COVID! Why do the rest of the states have to Shutdown!!!! Now many of the GOP led states are the Cesspools. Yesterday 45 was dropping Kung Flu in a place that may soon reach Hospital capacity: Arizona.

New York is now restricting access to people from other parts of the country. My how the tables have turned.

Sure it's hypocritical. He's looking out for the growth of his industry. Like everyone does. This was just an example of people that are on board with BLM that are objectively not losers. But if the definition of loser is not how accomplished they are but what they believe then you can fit that narrative into whoever you think is a loser or not. Trump: Winner? Trudeau: Loser? Or vice versa.

That's pretty sweeping. I don't think Lebron James is a loser.

I would suggest that the likes of Ezra Levant and David Menzies come from one fringe of the Political Spectrum and those Protestors come from the other. So the video isn't really reflective of anything when it comes to rational political discourse in this country. Menzies is just a Bleep Disturber. That's all he really ever does.

And I don't think it's very controversial to say that cops don't often deescalate things well. Especially in the US when many are wannabe Navy Seals.

Your quibbling with the straw that broke the camels back. It's a lot deeper than the inciting incident. Kind of like how WW1 really isn't about Franz Ferdinand. The real issue is mass incarceration of black people. https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2012/03/13/11351/the-top-10-most-startling-facts-about-people-of-color-and-criminal-justice-in-the-united-states/ And they aren't all in jail for violent crime. Many are in jail for things that White people do with impunity. The main thrust behind Defund the Police is that most of the root causes of crime in these communities are poverty and lack of opportunity due to over incarceration. More cops on the street ain't going to fix that, it's going to make it worse. Do you consider having a counterfit $20 bill? Or Sleeping in your bed? Or having a Cap Gun? or Sleeping in a Drive Thru? Or even having a legal firearm? crimes worthy of being treated like a violent criminal? What upsets people is that in all these cases that make news. The cops escalated situations that were initially quite calm or kept going until the person was dead.

So does "Kung Flu" help him get re-elected? Cuz it sounds like its his new "Lock Her Up". He's bailed on trying to imply that Joe Biden committed a crime. Do people like that level of candour? He actually said yesterday that he didn't know what the 19 in Covid-19 meant. Sheesh. He's in a bad spot right now.

Ultimately I'm a conservative. I'm just not "Conservative" on this issue.

Police reform will involve all people. People forget the old man that was assaulted by police in Buffalo. That wasn't met well by the public either.