WestCanMan

How is ISIS different dialamah? I think genocide is the main difference. Their stated goal of mass killings. Yeah that's my final answer Alex. I find it amusing that Trudeau's biggest supporter is also an ISIS supporter. If a woman kills... facepalm. What a horrible analogy. When something falls so wildly outside of statistical probability that it's way beyond what can be predicted by the standard of deviation then it's safe to say that the event in question is usually not a part of the group that you are trying to fit it in. In the civilized world, christians and other cultures manage to maintain standards that are well above anything that exists in the muslim dominated nations. I'm talking about muslim nations where their religion has been dominant for an entire millennia, and where stability could be expected. Compare Austria and Saudi Arabia, or France and Iraq, Iran and Japan. Your post is approaching a Trumpian level, albeit from the diametrically opposite side of the spectrum.

If Donald Trump went on the podium and quoted certain sections of the Old Testament word for word tomorrow it would be a new low for him. The thing is laced with anti-PC sentiments that would never make it past our current Canadian standards for publication. I will say this for Christians tho, my Atheism has never made me fear for my life here. Sikhs here in western Canada fit in like they were here for centuries. What passes for a really bad racial incident here would never make it to court in most other countries in the world, would barely be worth mentioning. It's popular to bash police now in North America, bash christians, to assume that whites were the only slavers in human history, and the only racists, etc. Fact is that this IS the greatest place on earth for accepting outsiders and I doubt that any other civilization has ever been close.

Hudson I don't doubt that you know some very nice muslims who appreciate the country that they live in, and that in most cases first-hand experience trumps what you would chalk up to "the assumptions of Islamophobes". I would even agree that westerners are overly active in the middle east, and that racial tensions between Muslims and Westerners will cause some unnecessary problems. But the big picture isn't "Hudson knows some nice Muslims who assure him that they are peaceful people". It's the last 2,000 years of human history, it's the widespread terrorism and genocides of the modern era, the blatant & legalized attacks on every other culture or religion within Muslim-dominated nations, the universal lack of respect for women within their culture, the problems that are arising in every nation where the Islam population starts to get up past 15%, etc. What you know about Muslims or Islam first-hand qualifies as an extremely small sample size in the grand scheme of things.

The ones in the uk got 12 to 17 months, I saw no actual mention of jail time in Germany yet. In Sweden there are areas where the police don't go without protection Of course none of this is true according to bleeding heart liberals. Islam is no different from any other tolerant group of people.

Impersonating a police officer can get you up to 5 years in Canada. If they actually did anything harmful to a person for violating sharia law that would be considered a hate crime, good for ten years. Let them go ahead.

Yeah, that's not what he did. I'm not here to give history lessons, if you don't know what happened then there's no point debating this with you.

Are you saying that he looked good with darts in his face WCR? How un-pc of you. Or PC, depending on which definition of pc you use.

No one could give half the country the finger like he did and still get elected again. He was an asshole whose face was on more dartboards than any other politician in the history of Canada.

I don't honestly give a crap what happens to people who are actually in the planning stages of committing murder. They could be racists, religious fanatics, anarchists, whatever. If the proof exists that they are up to no good they should go away for a long time. I don't really understand what difference it makes to you and me if they are anti-abortionists. Plz explain?

The argument against fptp here was based on the notion that it failed us in the last election based on the fact that "the majority of Canadians didn't want the Harper conservatives in power because less than 50% of Canadians voted for them". When that logical fallacy was made public all the liberal and ndp supporters gobbled it up like seagulls on a basket of fries. The real problem from the Liberals perspective was that noone wanted the liberals and they were completely humiliated at the polls. They felt jilted so they blamed fptp. The poster was probably just underlining the fact that the Liberals just got elected with less than 50% of the vote too. It's the same misrepresentation of the perceived problem with fptp that went around when the cons were in power.

The best thing to do when you have a line on nefarious types is keep monitoring them, and see who associates with them. If you got rid of the ones you were aware of it would make it harder for you to find out who all the new ones were. So you wire tap them, read their emails and texts etc for a few years and then when the time is right you get a clean sweep. You also need the zeitgeist to go along with arrests to give their sentences some oomph. If you arrested people before anything bad ever happened the political will would not exist for long-term incarcerations. If 30 guys were nabbed while the Harper gov't was in power and stuck in jail for twenty years each the liberals on this site would have gone apoplectic.

I think that Donald Trump is really damaging the whole US electoral system. Choosing a President is really only a two dog race come election time and he's doing damage to the Republican Party that will almost certainly make the presidential election come down to who wins the Democratic nomination. The only people in the US who will get an actual vote in that scenario are from the Democrats.

Trdeau is shaking all the trees in Ottawa now, asking for the top people in a lot of govt appointed jobs to step down. It was just on the news last night. This guy who is pretending to be the flower of democracy is doing a pretty fine job of not actually limiting his powers to fit within the confines of the prime minister in a democracy. Banning liberal candidates who didn't share his views on abortion was the first sign that something was seriously wrong with that guy. It's embarrassing just how many Canadians still adore him.

So you can't connect the dots? You don't see patterns from over there taking shape over here, or in Northern Europe?

What do you know of the last 2,000 years of history of the middle east and southern europe smallc? What do you think it's like for non-muslims to live in a muslim-dominated area smallc?

Wrong. It's your opinion that it's a good thing that my refusal has no bearing... Time will tell, and if history is any indication of what the future holds then you will eventually be in a position to admit that I was right and you were wrong. I will treat them like any other Canadian, but that doesn't mean that they won't go crazy over here watching our national news telecasts saying things like "Israel just crapped on Palestine, now they all smell like roses." If watching the news here makes me crazy when I don't have any family over there then I can only imagine what it does to people from that area who aren't dumb enough to believe the CBC.

So the gov't can screen 25,000 refugees from the world's foremost terrorist hotbed in the 2 months since Trudeau was elected without having a single Tashfeen Malik among them? Or is one or two ok? Gimme a break. Trudeau is the biggest idiot ever elected since democracy was invented. When the first Canadian is killed by a Syrian refugee I want Trudeau run out of office and I hope someone files a civil suit against him personally for criminal negligence. I doubt he can be charged criminally.

True moderates need to evolve past the point of giving their "eternal souls" to a book that demands [death to all infidels] the killing of billions of people. I refuse to accept them as peaceful, loving neighbours regardless of how nice you claim they are. I'm happy with them over there and us over here, but I don't have to trust them. Thousands of years of actual human history go against that.

No, she's running the country. You'd know that if you were married.

Hypocrisy dialamah, hypocrisy. That's the elephant in the room that you're trying to ignore. He said that he didn't need gov't funds for childcare because he takes so much money from charities, he cancelled it for everyone else, and now that he has access to the funds he is taking them and yet noone else can, because of him. That's hypocrisy at it's best and that's what everyone else is acknowledging. Trudeau's like a little kid walking around making declarative statements that he can't live up to. In the military we'd say "keep your mouth shut and make people guess how stupid you are."

You're looking for things to hate. You might want to change that.

Squid it seems like you didn't read his thread at all. He made a lot of good points there. If you want to disagree that's your right but imo you should probably focus more on his individual points than just guess what he meant from his title and then just zero in on your own assumptions.

I've seen references to boy toys going as far back as Marco Polo's writing. I mostly passed that off as one person's viewpoint but it keeps popping up everywhere. The problem is much larger than you want to believe. Afghanistan and Pakistan are part of the Arab world, fwiw. They both share a border with Iran, which is almost in the center of all of the Arabic States, and they were both part of the Persian Empire. They're as muslim as any nation in the world. They couldn't be any more arabic. Pedophilia in the Catholic Church isn't as widespread as you want it to be to fit your story line, and it's not legal anywhere in the western world. FGM is not part of the civilized world, and I'm an atheist so if you think you're hurting my feelings or something with your ridiculous claims about the Jews and Christians as bigtime FGM'ers you're barking up the wrong tree. And you're wrong again, I don't recall seeing anything you said in your post that was true.

Marcus you can't compare western views on paedophilia with those of some of the arabic nations. It's a crime to have sex with young boys here and a long-established practice over there (I'm not saying in every single arabic nation mind you). http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/22/asia/afghanistan-boy-abuse-us-military/ I'm not just taking CNN's account of it, and I'm sure you can dig up plenty more examples on the internet if you have the stomach to look for it. I know people who came from several different parts of the middle east and life over there is nothing like here. I know a Iraqi and a Lebanese/Jordanian couple who all called it a "vacation" when they fled their homes with nothing more than whatever cash they had in their wallet plus whatever gas they had in their car, never to return. The couple I'm speaking of did it twice. I've heard several people talk about how houses with women in them neededtheir windows blacked out, and women don't dare walk outside without a Hijab, Niqab, etc. Sharia law is brutal and shamelessly discriminatory, and you can see all over the world where Islamic populations start demanding Sharia law even where they don't have the majority. Here in Canada Muslims have already tried to establish sharia law for family matters. Do you think we would be just fine with a population of 1,000,000 muslims here? What if they were 25% of the population? 50%? Life gets worse and worse for non-muslims as their population base grows. I'm an atheist, and I'm aware of how dangerous it is for me to say that I don't have an imaginary friend in most arabic nations.

I never started off here "embracing their enemies", I've been defending the point that I am not comfortable with immigration from anyone involved in that conflicted region, Jews and Arabs alike. I was branded an anti-Semite (ridiculous word) for that because somehow it's politically incorrect to say the same things about the Jews from Israel as the Muslims from Syria.